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apparently I’m black
(well Mrs Micky says I’ve got some of the attributes….. :woohoo: )
You steal things and call her a ho?
Sometimes Miss,
All one has to offer is condescending claptrap,
Patronising dickhead………..unquestionably.
By responding….in that fashion,
you show yourself for what you are.
Patronising?……….give me strength.
Dickhead?…………you are indeed a GB coach.
Listen………..when you stop trolling, I’ll stop making a fool out of you. (oooops…..you already know “it’s hard to make someone look a fool while making yourself look like one yourself”)…..John.
Here have one on these…….. ;)[/quote]
There you go again, patronising dickhead, I rest my case.
And it would take more than an Internet wiseguy like yourself to make a fool out of myself, though you would know that yourself like I do myself, prick ;)
Sometimes Miss,
All one has to offer is condescending claptrap,
Patronising dickhead………..unquestionably.
JohnDoe that must be the first post I have seen on here that goes on such an idiotic rant without me feeling the need to throw in my pennys worth.But it did make you feel like throwing your two pennys worth didn’t it?
Oh, and I stopped watching them at Christmas, were they any good after that?
Easily wound up some on here, must be because deep down they know I’m right :P
1. Because he owns a premier league club, nobody forced him to, and he knew what he was getting into, it was his ambition to get there, what I want to know is why? If you’re not going to try and compete?
2. 3.3 million would pay 2 decent players £30000 a week.
3. I disagree, I think if the team were competing and having a run in the cups, we’d attract more fans. If we steadily built that, we’d end up in a situation where demand outstripped supply, then prices could be increased, it’s the only way to do that, steadily building over time, we’re going backwards and heading for the trap door. And why don’t we take the cups seriously?
4. Our fan base has indeed grown rapidly over the last ten years, and now it has dramatically stopped, even gone backwards, why is that? In my opinion, because there is no ambition, no investment and no entertainment, apart from the obligatory Houdini act, which has now become boring. To get more fans, and to build the club into one with history and success, there needs to be steady investment and ambition to win things, you don’t get a trophy for avoiding relegation.
5. Yes, in my opinion, the club is better structured to be in the championship, based on transfer budget, wages, standard of player and attendances. Again, I don’t see the point in being in a league that you can’t compete in and refuse to improve in order to compete. And this is compounded by the disgraceful disregard shown for the cups.
6. I said it would be a fair risk to pay a bit more in wages and make the odd marquee signing, given the fact that we’ve been in this league for 7 years now, and by doing that would give us a better chance of staying there and actually getting better, thus building the club and hopefully winning things down the line. At the moment the club is run with the view that we’ll be relegated and we’ll be right when it happens because we pay next to nothing in wages and we buy cheap an sell high. But were actually in the premier league, and being paid to be there, if he invested in better players, he’d get more fans, if he got more fans, he’d sell more merchandise, he’d get better sponsorships, so hopefully he’d get a return on his investment, but obviously this is all just opinion, still think I’m right though, and it’s far from ‘nonsense’
As I said it was my opinion and I replied in my honest opinion to what you wrote it is a really sad state of affairs when you result to name calling just because someone as a different opinion to yourselfAwww…diddums ;)
Why do you keep banging on about Portsmouth?
I’m not saying he should be reckless, i’m saying that he could compete with the teams around him, by making the odd decent signing, and by paying a bit more in wages, its hard enough to get players to come to Wigan, even harder when we pay less than most championship clubs.
Look, if Whelan wants a Premier league club, he should expect to pay premier league prices, it really is that simple, he’s just trying to do it on the cheap and it takes the piss, out of fans, out of the other clubs, out of Sky and any sponsers, they’e paying him to provide a service, and in my eyes he’s not fulfilling his remit.
i’m not arguing with you anymore, you’re obviously too blindly loyal to all things Wigan, it would be like banging my head against a wall, and i find you to be a bit of a knob.So you dont think we could attract crowds like stoke and everton, if we signed better quality players and showed some ambition, and finished seventh in the league, above liverpool.
If we got to the FA cup semi at wembley?
If we employed players like jelavic, fellaini, baines, pienaar?I’m sorry, but its up to the club to make the first move to bring the fans in, they produce a product that is entertaining, show ambition and be successfull, then more people will come to see that, its simple really. You cant say, right wiganers, you come and watch us struggle for 3 or 4 years, signing mainly unproven shit, and paying them in buttons, just surviving relegation each season, we’ll save up all your gate money and sign somebody decent with it.
Get real 34years, you’re either thick or blind or both, if your blind then listen to what the sane people are telling you, you’re having the piss ripped out of you, big time.Before i start, my tin hat is on ;)
My problem with all this is that Wigan Athletic are an established Premier League club, and with that comes certain expectations. We are way off the mark when it comes to transfer budgets and wages, when compared to the rest of the clubs in the league, and even compared to some in the championship, and i know that Whelan is trying to run a tight ship and not pay out extortionate wages, but the answer to that is that were in the wrong league then. The premier league attracts global audiences, expecting to watch top players, and the TV money paid is to keep that sort of talent in the league, thus making consistently good viewing, thats what theyre paying for.
Wigan are taking that money, the same as Stoke, Fulham, Everton, Sunderland etc etc, but not investing it in top quality playing staff.
Its like a law firm getting 10 million a year to represent high profile cases, then sending a binman into court on £300 a week.I think alot of fans that once admired plucky little Wigan, are now getting a bit pissed off with us hanging around, spending sweet nothing, empty stadium, and just being ‘there’. Its understandable when you first get promoted to not go berserk with big signings and big wages, but when youve had 7 years of stability, 7 years of tv money, and bought and sold players for massive profit, is it not a fair risk to up the wages a bit, to even compete with our peers, to make the odd marquee signing to attract more fans? I think its a piss take myself, there comes a point where as an owner you have to invest some coin into your business and make it grow, he wouldnt have done this in any other of his businesses, just let it bumble along making a loss or just breaking even, he’d identify improvements, invest where required and make a success out of it, in order to compete with his rivals, the way the club is structured we can’t compete, so whats the point of even being there other than pissing off everyone that isn’t daft enough to keep throwing their own hard earned into something that gives little to nothing back, unless you get off on the annual relegation survival scrap that quite frankly has become a boring and should in no way be classed as a ‘success’, its a point or three away from abject failure, and unless he starts running it like a PREMIER LEAGUE club and not a poundstretcher it’ll be the same until we plummet down the leagues back to where we ‘belong’.
Donners, what about you son, on the fire with all that latics stuff, it’s boring so it is, get some more pictures up, or videos, maybe you’ve not got to that stage of the relationship yet? Nevermind, pictures will do so they will.
