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Or maybe he thought Powell was being a lazy git and macca was having one, pretty sensible subs in my view. Fortune to hold it up and use mclean pace on the break
I’d have taken Powell off much earlier – and not bothered bringing anybody on in his place. Arrogant, lazy twat
Spot fixing is very difficult to prove. Unless you bowl for Pakistan.Online bookmakers are to blame ultimately for this latest fraud. Without them there would be no conduit for this crime.
Are pub landlords to blame for alcoholism?
I can’t see what this debate is even about other than ‘griffopinion’ being law, every dictionary describes the winning person, team or institution as champions.I wondered who would make it personal first. The smart money in the Griffin household was actually on that other old twat, not you. So, it’s all my opinion, is it? I am the only one in the winners corner, am I? Hardly! From what I can see, all the clever lads are in the winners corner, whilst all the thick lads are, seemingly, chumpions. I haven’t spoken to one person (and I have asked a lot; Wigan fans, other teams’ fans, colleagues, high-ranking football administrators) whose opinion I give a toss about who thinks it should be champions. In fact, even some people who I previously had down as thick as two short planks think it should be winners. That’s good enough for me.
Why on earth does it matter one way or another what kids sing at a football match or if it is factually correct or not…It seems to matter to you quite a bit, since you went to all that trouble to write that shite.
It isn’t a perfectly good argument though – all you & Griff (& others) are talking about is your own personal preference (& admittedly the preference of the vast majority of others) for the word winners over champions
Stopped reading, right there. That is all we were ever saying. The vast majority think that Champions is not the right description.
You’re perfectly entitled to be different. The Elephant Man was different, too. Just saying…
I wonder how many people around the globe had heard of Wigan Athletic before last May despite us being in the P L for 8 seasons. The whole planet watches the Cup and our little club and our amazing triumph was the topic of conversation of football fans from every Continent even if only for a short while. That’s why to me it has to be the Cup.I think you are underestimating how much being in the Premier League put us on the map, but I accept that the FA Cup win did it even more!
FA Cup.
First lower division side to win it since 1980 and the first to defend the trophy since the 50s I believe.
You might be right with teh first bit of that, but in my lifetime alone (since 1975), Tottenham won it 2 years on the bounce (81 & 82), Arsenal won it 2 years on the bounce (2002 & 2003) & so did Chelsea (2009 & 2010)
Going back a bit further, Spurs also won it in successive years in 1961 & 1962[/quote]I meant lower league side to defend it which I thought was obvious but clearly not ;)[/quote]
I got you. he’s only a ref, what do you expect? ;)
FA Cup gobshites
They exist though. There’s one in your avatar.
;) :P[/quote]
You wouldn’t catch me in ES2 though – far too refined for that ;)
Eddie Ilderton. Now there’s a name from the memory banks. He started his league career quite young and I remember him refereeing us against QPR in 2002 when he got basically everything wrong.
Was that the 0-0 game? Danny Shittu played for QPR
??[/quote]Danny Shittu…..snigger lol
[/quote]Bang out of order, that. You simply cannoy use that word on a public forum.
Oh, you said snigger!! Sorry!
Unfortunately the “well nobody has ever used that phrase to describe themselves before” is hardly the most convincing argument around. All words & phrases originate somewhere
At the end of the day it is grammatically acceptable & (more importantly) it fits in with the song far better than “winners”Ok, so 142 years of football fans have been out-grammared by a bunch of mongs from ES2? FA Cup gobshites is also grammatically acceptable and that too fits in with the song.
Is it pay on the gate?I don’t know, would you like me to get someone from the club to call round your house to let you know?
I don’t think the wording of the song matters as long as the meaning is the same . The boo boys can have an effect on opposition players, remember Nathan Ellington getting taken off after a nightmare for West Brom against us at the Hawthorns, although fans should never boo their own players . Jordi Gomez is having a decent season & you tubers seeing some of his goals could think he’s world class, in the past at times he has been ineffective or lightweight & because he’s not a blood, sweat n tears type player he has divided opinion, he certainly hasn’t deserved some of the stick he’s received in the past though . The ticket office have strict guidelines to adhere to, to ensure tickets are sold to the correct fans & fairly, sometimes they seem to give misinformation though eg a fan with a heart condition was told there were no tickets left for the lower tier at Bolton by one person at the ticket office, a mate of his offered to swap if he bought an upper tier ticket, he returned to the ticket office & was told lower tier tickets were available, this is one of many similar instances which are strange & it seems that some working in the ticket office do what they can to be helpful and others can’t be bothered .Just ask yourself why the ticket office would do that? Why would they say there were no tickets left if – at that point in time – they had tickets left to sell? The club does not simply get a pile of 2000, 3000 or 4000 tickets (or whatever the total allocation might be) and the work through them one by one until they are gone. There is all manner of logistical hoops they sometimes have to go through. I’m not saying they are necessarily the most efficeint, slickest organisation in the world, but they are by no means the incompetent bunch of idiots they are made out to be, either.
I don’t think the wording of the song matters as long as the meaning is the same . The boo boys can have an effect on opposition players, remember Nathan Ellington getting taken off after a nightmare for West Brom against us at the Hawthorns, although fans should never boo their own players . Jordi Gomez is having a decent season & you tubers seeing some of his goals could think he’s world class, in the past at times he has been ineffective or lightweight & because he’s not a blood, sweat n tears type player he has divided opinion, he certainly hasn’t deserved some of the stick he’s received in the past though . The ticket office have strict guidelines to adhere to, to ensure tickets are sold to the correct fans & fairly, sometimes they seem to give misinformation though eg a fan with a heart condition was told there were no tickets left for the lower tier at Bolton by one person at the ticket office, a mate of his offered to swap if he bought an upper tier ticket, he returned to the ticket office & was told lower tier tickets were available, this is one of many similar instances which are strange & it seems that some working in the ticket office do what they can to be helpful and others can’t be bothered .Just ask yourself why the ticket office would do that? Why would they say there were no tickets left if – at that point in time – they had tickets left to sell? The club does not simply get a pile of 2000, 3000 or 4000 tickets (or whatever the total allocation might be) and the work through them one by one until they are gone. There is all manner of logistical hoops they sometimes have to go through. I’m not saying they are necessarily the most efficeint, slickest organisation in the world, but they are by no means the incompetent bunch of idiots they are made out to be, either.
I’ve read sporadic posts about the ‘FA Cup Champions’ song and the arguments as to whether or not it is correct. I see myself as being a bit of a pedant as far as use of the great English language is concerned, and I must say that, on balance and on points, I agree with the great unwashed that ‘FA Cup Champions’ is correct as far as carrying vocal weight to opposing fans and self satisfaction is concerned. Though not of lingual perfection, ‘Champions’ conveys the warmth, gravity, and the syllables, that ‘Winners’ and ‘Holders’ do not.The latter are not certainly incorrect, in a lingual sense, but lack considerably in comparison to the former as far as singability is concerned.
My point being, no other club in the 142 year history of the FA Cup has ever referred to themselves as FA Cup champions, literally correct or not! No more to say on the subject – it’s been done to death, and I’m sure we’re all bored to tears with it.
However, your comment about warmth and gravity is the biggest load of cheesy, luvvie, thespian bullshit I have ever seen written on this forum ;)
