Salford_Latic44

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With pantomime diving and wreckless challenges the last thing we need is the people supposed to be upholding the law of the game worrying about their fecking assesment.

Just give the fecking 4th official a big IPAD so he can watch the game on skygo and tell the ref through his walkie talkie what he and the rest of the world can see in a matter of seconds!

Its not rocket science like the FA would have you beleive its just COMMON SENSE![/quote]

With all due respect, everybody who does a job is concerned about how their bosses view their performance & so they’re no different. In this sense what I was inferring was not that the concerns about assessment marks governed their actions on the pitch but that after the game when its obvious they missed it they may have covered their tracks – again in similar circumstances in their job I suspect everybody would do the same
In this instance I actually think the challenge was seen by one of the assistants at the time & (to him) it didn’t look as bad as it did slowed down – i saw the challenge at the time on the telly & it looked somet & nowt. It was only when they slowed it down & showed it from a different angle that it looked shocking.
If that is the case then again the FA’s hands are tied

As for your suggestion of the 4th official with an ipad – as simple as you may think it is, it would be an absolute disaster. If you have someone watching the game like that pulling the ref up for everything that he’s missed or got wrong it would soon become apparent to the players that the guy out in the middle is getting things wrong & is having his authority overruled by someone else. Once that respect of the official in the middle goes the conduct of the players to each other & towards the ref & his assistants would just plummet & it’d end up a nightmare – I’ve done it myself in a game recently where I let a player off with a warning for telling me to eff off & the rest of a game was a nightmare to control after that no matter how hard I tried to pull it back.
Being a ref is about far more than being able to judge whether player A fouled player B which is why match control accounts for 25% of a referees mark (another 25% is for application of law & the other categories are all between 5 & 10% each).
If you do introduce video technology the only way you could even contemplate doing it would be for the ref to be able to refer things similarly to rugby league. Even then as football is a more flowing & less stop start game you have the problem of at what point the ref pulls play back. Does he stop it straight away & risk pishing off the attacking team if they were in good possession or does he allow play to carry on till the next time it is in touch (which could be some time later) & if there was an offence is play & the clock then dragged back to where it took place
Far from improving the game, for me it would ruin it[/quote]

“after the game when its obvious they missed it they may have covered their tracks ”

Why should they have to everyone is aware its a tough job ?

And the covering of their own arse only serves to make the FA’s decisions more difficult.. thus not helping the problem.

“If you have someone watching the game like that pulling the ref up for everything that he’s missed or got wrong it would soon become apparent to the players that the guy out in the middle is getting things wrong & is having his authority overruled by someone else.”

I wasnt talking about every nip and tuck but more basic decisions that cannot be excused e.g. blatant offside / violent behaviour missed by the referee however I do completely agree as if they tried it and that was what was happening surely they should just get rid of the referee as the Ipad holding 4th official would clearly be better at making the decisions thus solving the problem of offending the poor referee who is upset because he is getting pulled up on not doing his job properly.

Failing that hook me up to a tannoy in the stadiums because I was doing a better job of it sitting on my arse at home via a poor stream V Chelsea.

I appreciate this is a touchy subject for you Tyldsley but I think it is time for a change as the decisions that are going against teams can cost them millions of pounds so my sympathy for Johnny ref’s assesment form after the game is non exsistent.

With all due respect, Robert’s team “finally came good” this time last season too & was back to square one come August!!!! ;)[/quote]

I think the performances recently have been of the highest level since Roberto took over at the club and way above that of last season providing a solid foundation that can be built upon.

Last season alot of the credit has to go to the way N’Zogbia played individually…

We are currently by no means as one dimensional and reliant on a fairly unreliable player to win games.

WELL DONE ROBERTO goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost

Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story….

Shame the story is rubbish too.

Probably a disgruntled darksider who is begrudged because Roberto’s team is finally coming good…

The new system is great yeah but what I am saying is if you think its going to work the same against Man Utd as it does against a poor Liverpool and Stoke then you’re in for a shock…

Let me be clear though my heart would like to see us go out in the current formation and have a go at dominating the game and winning with some of the great football we have been playing but my head tells me that is just not going to happen!

I agree but being realistic we can expect to be dominated for large parts of this game we cant go out there thinking we can dominate the way we have previously.

Valencia is without a doubt their saving grace this season.

Blackburn played well on monday they kept united quiet for periods.

But they had Rooney and Scholes playing the left side of midfield firing balls out constantly to Valencia who must hit 29/30 attempted crosses into the box on average…

He is practically undefendable.

I think to set up in the current formation would be suicide.

A 7-0 smashing of Man utd is the last thing we need going into a relegation battle.

All in all I dont think the referee will make a blind bit of difference if we are not 100% at the top of our game.

Even then we will probably need a few strokes of luck.

I can see Martinez changing the tactics for this one.

If they play Valencia he will have a field day getting in behind Beausajor so I think a flat back 4 could be on the cards….