How Long Before “Bottom Four Bob”

Just as the world is realising that the boring tippy tappy Spanish way has come to an end and is being replaced by more attacking forward thinking football, some idiots want England to now adopt the Spanish way.

I’d sooner have Redknapp as the next England manager than Martinez.[/quote]

tippy tappy aint gone it’s just got faster ie Algeria last goal against South Korea and most of the frogs goals tother day[/quote]

No problem with it when its in the box of the opponents and leads to a goal or a good chance, but when you are in your own half passing for the sake of it then going backwards when there is no opponent near you is another thing though.

I think when saying Spanish football is in decline, that it’s important to draw a distinction between the Barcelona/Spanish national team tika taka stuff & then the Spanish league in general.
Coz in my opinion, neither Real or Atletico play that tika taka style – and even the style itself, whilst it bores me rigid, is not dead it’s just that IMO the Spanish national manager allowed his team to get too old whilst Barcelona lost their manager, had the new manager contract cancer & have to operate with a caretaker manager & then employ another one who didn’t seem up to it all whilst not refreshing the side & allowing the players to go a bit stale
Get the Barcelona off field situation settled & get both them & the national side refreshed with new players & they’ll both be back.

As for England I think the FA gave Hodgson a brief to oversee a transition from the old guard & bring through the new crop of youngsters & introduce a new style of play for the national side. Hence why he left Cole at home & made no attempt to try & persuade Terry out of retirement & why we saw a more front foot style at this World Cup.
The problem is IMO that all this went against Hodgson’s instincts as a manager. He had his most high profile success at Switzerland where he employed the solid, hard to beat style of the underdog similar to what brought Greece international success. Likewise in the premier league his success was at West Brom & Fulham where he did the same thing. When he’s had high profile jobs such as Liverpool & Inter Milan who expect more than that then he’s been much less successful.

As for who would replace him if he goes, which I don’t think he will (at least not until the Euro qualifying campaign possibly goes belly up), I’ve no idea. I’m not in the least bit bothered where the manager comes from but Rogers I don’t rate as his tactic seems to be to go all gung ho for the first 15 minutes & if that doesn’t work he has no other ideas &, well we all know Bobby has “no plan B” ;)

Martinez led Everton to their highest-ever Premier League points total, their first double over Manchester United in 45 years and equalled a club-record winning streak of seven games all in his debut season.

Everton finished fifth in the Premier League with a club-record Premier League points tally of 72. They were so close to a place in the Champions League.

72 points would have been enough for Champions League football in eight out of the last 10 seasons. Everton amassed the most points by a team in the era of four English qualifiers to the Champions League not to win a place.

It’s nice to be back.

And so much cooler than Copacabana.

Yes, but Kone will be fit to start the season.

As will Gibson and Ovieda.

And he’s signed Barry too, who will resume his partnership with McCarthy.

I stuck my hand in The Ribble yesterday, gosh it was warm. Felt like sticking richard in there tbh.
I love fishing me I do.

Martinez led Everton to their highest-ever Premier League points total, their first double over Manchester United in 45 years and equalled a club-record winning streak of seven games all in his debut season.

Everton finished fifth in the Premier League with a club-record Premier League points tally of 72. They were so close to a place in the Champions League.

72 points would have been enough for Champions League football in eight out of the last 10 seasons. Everton amassed the most points by a team in the era of four English qualifiers to the Champions League not to win a place.[/quote]

He broke every record in the book for us as well, beating Man u, first win at Anfield, first major Trophy, first time we have been relegated from the Prem.

Look at the comparisons all you want but you win more accolades and trophys by beating and bettering your opponents during the particular season.

My house is worth about £150K now and it was worth £16k when I bought it. It’s the same fekin house, so doesn’t mean it is 10 times better now than when I bought it.
You really do make me laugh with your idiotic comparisons.

See if you can hear this if I shout it out. MARTINEZ DIDN’T GET THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SPOT HE PROMISED BETTY TURPIN’S LAD. :lol:
Let’s see what he does this season without the services of the Chelsea striker. B) :kiss:[/quote]

He didn’t and they punished him with a new five year contract.[/quote]

Oh yip I forgot about that, first a 4 year deal then a 5 year deal that’s 9 years. They’ll probably give him another 10 year deal and the plan will be that BK pops his clogs having seen no improvement in the club and he will go to the grave with no egg on his face, but still no champions league footy at the Goody.

Bobby jumped from Swansea when he realised he couldn’t get them promoted, he jumped from Wigan having got them relegated…… his CV is building up nicely here.
:lol:

Give him a 25 year contract at Everton and he will not take them forward. Still BK has the satisfaction of Everton having their best premiership points tally, a round of applause everybody and well spotted Barnsley, the toffee supporters will be well chuffed.
Wake up man, contracts mean diddley squat these days. :P

So offering him a new contract – on more money isn’t a reward for his performance last season?

Your bitterness is obviously clouding your judgement.

The Everton supporters and board are ‘well chuffed’ with him.[/quote]

I’m sick of hearing people saying on here that Everton supporters are well chuffed, not the ones I work with. They started off loving his tactics and then saw a change that sounded like he had gone into that tippy tappy mode, with no real urgency to push on for a CL spot which for long periods, was in their grasp.
Possession means more than points to the blind fool, unless he realises there has to be plan A, plan B and a plan C, then he will continue to frustrate the supporters of his team, whoever it may be.

I’d say that a true reflection on how the supporters feel is that the jury are still undecided. Lets say its been a “getting to know you” type of season with the next one being more of a “we want more” campaign.

Yes of course I’m bitter, very bitter indeed, to the same degree as you and a few others are up his harris to your ball sacks and elbows. :sick: