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    griffChris Griffin
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    I thought you weren’t so stupid as to spout the old “I’m only on a wind-up” excuse.

    How wrong could I have been.

    Ask Griff, he’ll tell ya! Also Horc and Lostock Hall latic as well! I honestly didn’t think that you would be that stupid to fall for it if the truth be known!
    I don’t give a flying fuck about Martinez anymore, he is at Everton now! The only reason I am letting on about the wind ups is because I am getting bored with it all now, not because you feel that you got the better of the argument because there wasn’t one, it was all a wind up! [/quote]

    And after months away from here, I see it’s still full of the same old liars and bullshitters! This was all just a wind-up, was it? Yeah right, of course it was! Sammy’s right, trotting out that tired old “wind-up” excuse/reason/justification/back-track line is just sooo obvious, the last defence of a poster who knows his argument is backed into a corner.

    Admit it, the lot of you who started and perpetuated what is, and always has been, a totally anti-Martinez thread are still – three years on- looking absolutely bitter and twisted, not to mention stupid.

    But I’m with you, Phil, on one thing at least – I gave up worrying/caring/thinking about Martinez a long, long time ago. Difference between me and you is, I am telling the truth.

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    filmossfilmoss
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    I thought you weren’t so stupid as to spout the old “I’m only on a wind-up” excuse.

    How wrong could I have been.

    Ask Griff, he’ll tell ya! Also Horc and Lostock Hall latic as well! I honestly didn’t think that you would be that stupid to fall for it if the truth be known!
    I don’t give a flying fuck about Martinez anymore, he is at Everton now! The only reason I am letting on about the wind ups is because I am getting bored with it all now, not because you feel that you got the better of the argument because there wasn’t one, it was all a wind up! [/quote]

    And after months away from here, I see it’s still full of the same old liars and bullshitters! This was all just a wind-up, was it? Yeah right, of course it was! Sammy’s right, trotting out that tired old “wind-up” excuse/reason/justification/back-track line is just sooo obvious, the last defence of a poster who knows his argument is backed into a corner.

    Admit it, the lot of you who started and perpetuated what is, and always has been, a totally anti-Martinez thread are still – three years on- looking absolutely bitter and twisted, not to mention stupid.

    But I’m with you, Phil, on one thing at least – I gave up worrying/caring/thinking about Martinez a long, long time ago. Difference between me and you is, I am telling the truth.[/quote]

    So you are calling me a liar? Selective memory syndrome! I won’t go into a ‘Davefromskem’ esque meltdown but did you even listen to a word I told you on our walk to the ground on several occasions? Sammy thanking you is quite funny I must admit but for fucks sake Griff for you to post that is just ludicrous! At least there are some on here who know the script, I’m just sorry that you didn’t get it despite having first hand info that I’m on the rise! It would appear that you are just as gullible as our weekend wearing tie man/woman ( Can’t differentiate )Sammy!

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    I thought you weren’t so stupid as to spout the old “I’m only on a wind-up” excuse.

    How wrong could I have been.

    Ask Griff, he’ll tell ya! Also Horc and Lostock Hall latic as well! I honestly didn’t think that you would be that stupid to fall for it if the truth be known!
    I don’t give a flying fuck about Martinez anymore, he is at Everton now! The only reason I am letting on about the wind ups is because I am getting bored with it all now, not because you feel that you got the better of the argument because there wasn’t one, it was all a wind up! [/quote]

    And after months away from here, I see it’s still full of the same old liars and bullshitters! This was all just a wind-up, was it? Yeah right, of course it was! Sammy’s right, trotting out that tired old “wind-up” excuse/reason/justification/back-track line is just sooo obvious, the last defence of a poster who knows his argument is backed into a corner.

    Admit it, the lot of you who started and perpetuated what is, and always has been, a totally anti-Martinez thread are still – three years on- looking absolutely bitter and twisted, not to mention stupid.

    But I’m with you, Phil, on one thing at least – I gave up worrying/caring/thinking about Martinez a long, long time ago. Difference between me and you is, I am telling the truth.[/quote]

    So you are calling me a liar? Selective memory syndrome! I won’t go into a ‘Davefromskem’ esque meltdown but did you even listen to a word I told you on our walk to the ground on several occasions? Sammy thanking you is quite funny I must admit but for fucks sake Griff for you to post that is just ludicrous! At least there are some on here who know the script, I’m just sorry that you didn’t get it despite having first hand info that I’m on the rise! It would appear that you are just as gullible as our weekend wearing tie man/woman ( Can’t differentiate )Sammy![/quote]

    Oh dear! It seems your key witness has failed to reinforce your claim. You need a good memory be a part time wind up merchant.

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    griffChris Griffin
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    Its like fishing in one of those pay on the day pits around Eccy and Mawdesley Fil. A bite a chuck. That Bobby bait works a treat. Don’t even need groundbait. Moonay could catch in them and he cant catch fish!

    The irony is that the whole thread is a piss take yet the gullible repeatedly fall for it! :)[/quote]

    What utter, utter bullshit!! You lot are nowhere near clever or subtle enough to have manufactured a wind-up like this. Not a fucking chance! Jesus!

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    griffChris Griffin
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    … but did you even listen to a word I told you on our walk to the ground on several occasions?

    Don’t be fucking stupid, of course I didn’t listen! I even asked Eddie to open the back door of the beer garden on a few occasions so I could escape that way without bu,ping in to you lot.

    But as you said earlier only 80% of your stuff is wind-up. I think your Swansea/Caldwell stuff falls into the 20% that you actually believed but back-tracked in the face of overwhelming opposition. I imagine so anyway, I really couldn’t be arsed reading it. Someone told me about it yesterday in the pub.

    And for the record, despite there being a lot of people on here who think I am a wind-up merechant, nothing could be further from the truth. 99% (I haven’t done the actual math) of what I post on here is what I actually think and will stand by.

    Finally, the liar comment wasn’t aimed at you. The bullshitter one was, though. But, if you say 80% of what you post is wind-up then you are, by definition, a bullshitter 80% of the time ;)

    Anyway, goodbye. Clearly nothing to see here

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    filmossfilmoss
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    … but did you even listen to a word I told you on our walk to the ground on several occasions?

    Don’t be fucking stupid, of course I didn’t listen! I even asked Eddie to open the back door of the beer garden on a few occasions so I could escape that way without bu,ping in to you lot.

    But as you said earlier only 80% of your stuff is wind-up. I think your Swansea/Caldwell stuff falls into the 20% that you actually believed but back-tracked in the face of overwhelming opposition. I imagine so anyway, I really couldn’t be arsed reading it. Someone told me about it yesterday in the pub.

    And for the record, despite there being a lot of people on here who think I am a wind-up merechant, nothing could be further from the truth. 99% (I haven’t done the actual math) of what I post on here is what I actually think and will stand by.

    Finally, the liar comment wasn’t aimed at you. The bullshitter one was, though. But, if you say 80% of what you post is wind-up then you are, by definition, a bullshitter 80% of the time ;)

    Anyway, goodbye. Clearly nothing to see here[/quote]

    How sanctimonious of you! Just like when I introduced you to Ian McNeil’s Grandson and you came out with some derogatory comment and then turned your back on him! You went down in my estimation that day! You really do need to brush up on your people skills!
    Re Swansea game, I just picked that game because it was the proverbial nail in the coffin for Wigan’s survival hopes and I seem to remember a thread on here that had several posters calling Martinez for playing Caldwell and not playing Gomez from the start. I even had to research the result to see that we did indeed relinquish the lead twice because my memory of the game really is that vague, and there you have it, a pop at Bob’s tactics to get a rise from the usual suspects and it worked! It really is that simple but you know better and your word is ‘King’, well it is to Samantha! ;)

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    jrfatfanjrfatfan
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    “Permission to speak Mr Manwairing”

    I’ll try to bring a bit of understanding to this thread.

    I don’t mind one bit, being labeled bitter and twisted with respect to Martinez. Something has happened to make me feel that way, if Martinez was the manager of Lincoln city and his team knocked us out of the FA Cup, I wouldn’t like it, but by the same token I wouldn’t feel bitter and twisted towards him.

    We are all human beings and react in different ways to the same situation.

    For example, if I decided to play a prank on my mates one night coming home from the pub and wear a werewolf mask, hide behind a tree and jumped out shouting your all dead meat! this would probably be their reaction;

    Mate no. 1 …would rush towards me and deck me.

    Mate no. 2 …would run off at great pace screaming.

    Mate no. 3…would say feck off John what the hell are you doing.

    There is nothing right or wrong with each of their reactions, its just how they individually perceive that situation.

    So IMHO, there’s no harm continuing the debate, but FFS keep it to the subject matter and not how people have reacted to the situation.

    …and before anyone says it, A] yes I have got 3 mates and B] I probably wouldn’t need to wear a werewolf mask. :P

    From Matlock to ManU
    What a journey!

    #145391
    filmossfilmoss
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    ‘The proof of the pudding is in the eating.’ A tongue in cheek thread started by Alistair that has proved to be the most popular thread in the history of Cockney Latic! Even those who constantly repudiate it keep coming back for more! I bet Griff wasn’t wanting Bob to do well yesterday eh! A good day all round!

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    filmossfilmoss
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    How can we ever forget those amazing scenes when we lifted the cup but also all those idiotic tactical decisions that relegated us and all those statements about loving our club so much. Bob created the bad feeling by entering into the swap triangle probably before the season was anywhere near finishing. If only he had just seen getting Latics back into the Premier League as important as getting Everton into the Champions League or could I be wrong and it wasn’t about ambition but more about becoming a bigger millionaire than what Latics had already made him. This thread should never end. Thank you LHL who incidently at one time was a major fan of Bob but an even greater fan of WAFC. His football was shit by the way. Boring shit.Apart from about twenty games in his entire time here. Boring shite!!!

    Let’s not rewrite history!

    Compared to other Premier League teams, Wigan clearly had limited resources, both in the size of the squad and the quality of the players. Roberto was also fighting on two fronts; the Premier League and the FA Cup. But he didn’t have the resources to compete in both.

    The general consent on this forum was that winning the cup was more important than staying in the Premier League. Roberto overcame all the team’s injuries to produce a makeshift team and a winning performance in the face of the mighty Manchester City.

    I suppose that Roberto could have fielded a reserve team in the Cup Final, and a fresh first team against Arsenal three days later. But even that may not have been enough to save the Latics.

    In his time as manager, Roberto had to reduce the size of the already modest wage bill substantially – just as other teams were spending much more. The result was inevitable.[/quote]

    Under Martinez Wigan Athletic won the FA Cup.

    It seems I have to keep repeating this but some people really don’t understand the significance. No ah buts or what ifs need to be added since they are unnecessary.[/quote]

    So he takes the kudos for the FA Cup and rightfully so but is blameless for the Swansea game!

    Disclaimer- Serious post :)

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    WeregoingtobarnsleyHenry Peacock
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    Once bitten, twice shy, Phil.

    We’re not falling for that one again.

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    filmossfilmoss
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    Once bitten, twice shy, Phil.

    We’re not falling for that one again.

    What I am saying is the manager, any manager is culpable when things go wrong, just as they are lauded when things fall into place, that is football for you! Look at Liverpool for instance, they decided that a 1-1 draw away to Everton was the final straw for Rodgers. Bit unfair but the lack of good results lays at the feet of one man and one man only, the manager!

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    WeregoingtobarnsleyHenry Peacock
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    Liverpool had already made the decision to sack Rodgers before the derby game. And I seem to remember posts claiming that both Rodgers and Monk were better managers than Roberto.

    The Premier League teams finish pretty much in the order of their wage bills. If you’ve got the smallest wage bill and finish last, that’s not unexpected.

    If you’ve got the smallest wage bill and win the cup and finish third from bottom, that is a shock. But I haven’t got your enthusiasm to carry this argument on.

    Griff, wait for me!

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    Bobby and his crew are 10 points off the top and 9 from a relegation spot. If lukaku keeps hanging them in he’ll attract bids in the January window. I predict a faltering second half to their season. Might have a tenner on them joint us in the Championship.

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    Bobby and his crew are 10 points off the top and 9 from a relegation spot. If lukaku keeps hanging them in he’ll attract bids in the January window. I predict a faltering second half to their season. Might have a tenner on them joint us in the Championship.

    And Latics are also 10 points off the top, but 13 from a relegation spot. So are the Everton fans more disgruntled than our Latics fans ?

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    Is Bobby’s glass half full or half empty, as Everton resume their natural position in the league.

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