How Long Before “Bottom Four Bob”

Ask Griff, he’ll tell ya! Also Horc and Lostock Hall latic as well! I honestly didn’t think that you would be that stupid to fall for it if the truth be known!
I don’t give a flying fuck about Martinez anymore, he is at Everton now! The only reason I am letting on about the wind ups is because I am getting bored with it all now, not because you feel that you got the better of the argument because there wasn’t one, it was all a wind up! [/quote]

And after months away from here, I see it’s still full of the same old liars and bullshitters! This was all just a wind-up, was it? Yeah right, of course it was! Sammy’s right, trotting out that tired old “wind-up” excuse/reason/justification/back-track line is just sooo obvious, the last defence of a poster who knows his argument is backed into a corner.

Admit it, the lot of you who started and perpetuated what is, and always has been, a totally anti-Martinez thread are still – three years on- looking absolutely bitter and twisted, not to mention stupid.

But I’m with you, Phil, on one thing at least – I gave up worrying/caring/thinking about Martinez a long, long time ago. Difference between me and you is, I am telling the truth.

Ask Griff, he’ll tell ya! Also Horc and Lostock Hall latic as well! I honestly didn’t think that you would be that stupid to fall for it if the truth be known!
I don’t give a flying fuck about Martinez anymore, he is at Everton now! The only reason I am letting on about the wind ups is because I am getting bored with it all now, not because you feel that you got the better of the argument because there wasn’t one, it was all a wind up! [/quote]

And after months away from here, I see it’s still full of the same old liars and bullshitters! This was all just a wind-up, was it? Yeah right, of course it was! Sammy’s right, trotting out that tired old “wind-up” excuse/reason/justification/back-track line is just sooo obvious, the last defence of a poster who knows his argument is backed into a corner.

Admit it, the lot of you who started and perpetuated what is, and always has been, a totally anti-Martinez thread are still – three years on- looking absolutely bitter and twisted, not to mention stupid.

But I’m with you, Phil, on one thing at least – I gave up worrying/caring/thinking about Martinez a long, long time ago. Difference between me and you is, I am telling the truth.[/quote]

So you are calling me a liar? Selective memory syndrome! I won’t go into a ‘Davefromskem’ esque meltdown but did you even listen to a word I told you on our walk to the ground on several occasions? Sammy thanking you is quite funny I must admit but for fucks sake Griff for you to post that is just ludicrous! At least there are some on here who know the script, I’m just sorry that you didn’t get it despite having first hand info that I’m on the rise! It would appear that you are just as gullible as our weekend wearing tie man/woman ( Can’t differentiate )Sammy![/quote]

Oh dear! It seems your key witness has failed to reinforce your claim. You need a good memory be a part time wind up merchant.

Don’t be fucking stupid, of course I didn’t listen! I even asked Eddie to open the back door of the beer garden on a few occasions so I could escape that way without bu,ping in to you lot.

But as you said earlier only 80% of your stuff is wind-up. I think your Swansea/Caldwell stuff falls into the 20% that you actually believed but back-tracked in the face of overwhelming opposition. I imagine so anyway, I really couldn’t be arsed reading it. Someone told me about it yesterday in the pub.

And for the record, despite there being a lot of people on here who think I am a wind-up merechant, nothing could be further from the truth. 99% (I haven’t done the actual math) of what I post on here is what I actually think and will stand by.

Finally, the liar comment wasn’t aimed at you. The bullshitter one was, though. But, if you say 80% of what you post is wind-up then you are, by definition, a bullshitter 80% of the time ;)

Anyway, goodbye. Clearly nothing to see here

“Permission to speak Mr Manwairing”

I’ll try to bring a bit of understanding to this thread.

I don’t mind one bit, being labeled bitter and twisted with respect to Martinez. Something has happened to make me feel that way, if Martinez was the manager of Lincoln city and his team knocked us out of the FA Cup, I wouldn’t like it, but by the same token I wouldn’t feel bitter and twisted towards him.

We are all human beings and react in different ways to the same situation.

For example, if I decided to play a prank on my mates one night coming home from the pub and wear a werewolf mask, hide behind a tree and jumped out shouting your all dead meat! this would probably be their reaction;

Mate no. 1 …would rush towards me and deck me.

Mate no. 2 …would run off at great pace screaming.

Mate no. 3…would say feck off John what the hell are you doing.

There is nothing right or wrong with each of their reactions, its just how they individually perceive that situation.

So IMHO, there’s no harm continuing the debate, but FFS keep it to the subject matter and not how people have reacted to the situation.

…and before anyone says it, A] yes I have got 3 mates and B] I probably wouldn’t need to wear a werewolf mask. :P

Let’s not rewrite history!

Compared to other Premier League teams, Wigan clearly had limited resources, both in the size of the squad and the quality of the players. Roberto was also fighting on two fronts; the Premier League and the FA Cup. But he didn’t have the resources to compete in both.

The general consent on this forum was that winning the cup was more important than staying in the Premier League. Roberto overcame all the team’s injuries to produce a makeshift team and a winning performance in the face of the mighty Manchester City.

I suppose that Roberto could have fielded a reserve team in the Cup Final, and a fresh first team against Arsenal three days later. But even that may not have been enough to save the Latics.

In his time as manager, Roberto had to reduce the size of the already modest wage bill substantially – just as other teams were spending much more. The result was inevitable.[/quote]

Under Martinez Wigan Athletic won the FA Cup.

It seems I have to keep repeating this but some people really don’t understand the significance. No ah buts or what ifs need to be added since they are unnecessary.[/quote]

So he takes the kudos for the FA Cup and rightfully so but is blameless for the Swansea game!

Disclaimer- Serious post :)

What I am saying is the manager, any manager is culpable when things go wrong, just as they are lauded when things fall into place, that is football for you! Look at Liverpool for instance, they decided that a 1-1 draw away to Everton was the final straw for Rodgers. Bit unfair but the lack of good results lays at the feet of one man and one man only, the manager!

Bobby and his crew are 10 points off the top and 9 from a relegation spot. If lukaku keeps hanging them in he’ll attract bids in the January window. I predict a faltering second half to their season. Might have a tenner on them joint us in the Championship.

Is Bobby’s glass half full or half empty, as Everton resume their natural position in the league.