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You’re right Fil, there’ll always be idiotic responses like the one above when folk are proven wrong about something.
Almost forgetting we were beaten 2-0 yesterday by Gillingham in Division One!
Tavernier and Waghorn are too good for Division One and will be playing in the top division in Scotland in front of 50000 next season. Good move for them both.Who has been proven wrong and about what?, grow up man! if you think the standard of football in the Scottish championship is any higher than league one in England you’re a bigger numpty than I thought.
Did you think we wouldn’t, or shouldn’t, get beat in league One? This will be a hard league make no mistake, there will be no gimmies. I would have taken a point yesterday before KO.
Losing 2-0 to Gillingham is nothing to be shamed of, that’s unless your a JCL. There is also nothing to make me feel that having “Tavs and Waggs” in the team would have changed the result yesterday. Both those players flattered to deceive during their stay with us, not impressing the people who managed them day in day out enough for them to hold down a regular spot in a poor performing Championship team.Just remember, Rangers where favs to go into the Scots Premiership last season and failed, does that sound familiar to you?[/quote]
To slate a game where someone like Kenny Miller played who’s scored more goals than our last dozen ‘strikers’ could dream of is a bit rich and not to mention dismissive just because Tav and Wags played in it and are doing well. It’s you who should grow up pal.
If your posts aren’t blue tinted they’re riddled with green eyed undertones.
To answer Bigroy, my thinking, call it logic if you like is that Tavernier was promoted the last 2 seasons from Division One, getting player of the year first time around with Rotherham and was given hardly any chance by our previous (sacked)
managers. Waghorn I always liked and he scored goals regularly, despite not getting a run in the team due to our previous (sacked) managers.
The fact that Mark Warburton, a manager admired by many (not to mention successful at Championship level) wanted them as some of his first signings for one of the biggest clubs in Europe no matter what division their in, seems to back up my view, that they’ll probably play a big part in next years Premier League in Scotland.
Hope that get’s my opinion across, backed up by some logic, rather than snide unneccasary comments and some references to crowds of 1200.For the record I remember watching Fyvie play most of the previous seasons pre-season and looking improved, hungry and talented, only to be left out in the cold once the season started.
I would say that both Rangers and Hibs would have the measure over us if we played them! In fact I would wager about them both beating most of the sides in our League One!
You’re right Fil, there’ll always be idiotic responses like the one above when folk are proven wrong about something.
Almost forgetting we were beaten 2-0 yesterday by Gillingham in Division One!
Tavernier and Waghorn are too good for Division One and will be playing in the top division in Scotland in front of 50000 next season. Good move for them both.Who has been proven wrong and about what?, grow up man! if you think the standard of football in the Scottish championship is any higher than league one in England you’re a bigger numpty than I thought.
Did you think we wouldn’t, or shouldn’t, get beat in league One? This will be a hard league make no mistake, there will be no gimmies. I would have taken a point yesterday before KO.
Losing 2-0 to Gillingham is nothing to be shamed of, that’s unless your a JCL. There is also nothing to make me feel that having “Tavs and Waggs” in the team would have changed the result yesterday. Both those players flattered to deceive during their stay with us, not impressing the people who managed them day in day out enough for them to hold down a regular spot in a poor performing Championship team.Just remember, Rangers where favs to go into the Scots Premiership last season and failed, does that sound familiar to you?[/quote]
To slate a game where someone like Kenny Miller played who’s scored more goals than our last dozen ‘strikers’ could dream of is a bit rich and not to mention dismissive just because Tav and Wags played in it and are doing well. It’s you who should grow up pal.
If your posts aren’t blue tinted they’re riddled with green eyed undertones.
To answer Bigroy, my thinking, call it logic if you like is that Tavernier was promoted the last 2 seasons from Division One, getting player of the year first time around with Rotherham and was given hardly any chance by our previous (sacked)
managers. Waghorn I always liked and he scored goals regularly, despite not getting a run in the team due to our previous (sacked) managers.
The fact that Mark Warburton, a manager admired by many (not to mention successful at Championship level) wanted them as some of his first signings for one of the biggest clubs in Europe no matter what division their in, seems to back up my view, that they’ll probably play a big part in next years Premier League in Scotland.
Hope that get’s my opinion across, backed up by some logic, rather than snide unneccasary comments and some references to crowds of 1200.For the record I remember watching Fyvie play most of the previous seasons pre-season and looking improved, hungry and talented, only to be left out in the cold once the season started.[/quote]
Are you for real? Kenny Miller is 36 in a few months time, so you wouldn’t slate a competitive game this weekend in Scotland or England that had Pele and Maradona in?
As for Fraser Fyve, I saw him in his pre-season games too and he looked quite handy, when it came to a competitive game he looked more like Andy Pandy!!
I’m out of this thread, unbelievable, fekin unbelievable!!
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What a journey!You’re right Fil, there’ll always be idiotic responses like the one above when folk are proven wrong about something.
Almost forgetting we were beaten 2-0 yesterday by Gillingham in Division One!
Tavernier and Waghorn are too good for Division One and will be playing in the top division in Scotland in front of 50000 next season. Good move for them both.Who has been proven wrong and about what?, grow up man! if you think the standard of football in the Scottish championship is any higher than league one in England you’re a bigger numpty than I thought.
Did you think we wouldn’t, or shouldn’t, get beat in league One? This will be a hard league make no mistake, there will be no gimmies. I would have taken a point yesterday before KO.
Losing 2-0 to Gillingham is nothing to be shamed of, that’s unless your a JCL. There is also nothing to make me feel that having “Tavs and Waggs” in the team would have changed the result yesterday. Both those players flattered to deceive during their stay with us, not impressing the people who managed them day in day out enough for them to hold down a regular spot in a poor performing Championship team.Just remember, Rangers where favs to go into the Scots Premiership last season and failed, does that sound familiar to you?[/quote]
To slate a game where someone like Kenny Miller played who’s scored more goals than our last dozen ‘strikers’ could dream of is a bit rich and not to mention dismissive just because Tav and Wags played in it and are doing well. It’s you who should grow up pal.
If your posts aren’t blue tinted they’re riddled with green eyed undertones.
To answer Bigroy, my thinking, call it logic if you like is that Tavernier was promoted the last 2 seasons from Division One, getting player of the year first time around with Rotherham and was given hardly any chance by our previous (sacked)
managers. Waghorn I always liked and he scored goals regularly, despite not getting a run in the team due to our previous (sacked) managers.
The fact that Mark Warburton, a manager admired by many (not to mention successful at Championship level) wanted them as some of his first signings for one of the biggest clubs in Europe no matter what division their in, seems to back up my view, that they’ll probably play a big part in next years Premier League in Scotland.
Hope that get’s my opinion across, backed up by some logic, rather than snide unneccasary comments and some references to crowds of 1200.For the record I remember watching Fyvie play most of the previous seasons pre-season and looking improved, hungry and talented, only to be left out in the cold once the season started.[/quote]
Think I must watch a different game. Let’s start with Tavernier. After being loaned out to no less than 7 clubs in the last 4 years not one decided to sign him (no not Rotherham or Bristol city strangely) and he now finds himself playing at his worst standard yet against the part timers of Dumbarton and Raith. He was poor when he played for us and looked out of his depth at times. He may well do a job in that league but don’t give me this shite that it’s a step up!
Waghorn on the other hand was average at best. 7 goals in 29 appearances for us with the final straw being a senseless red which nailed our relegation at millwall last year. Hardly a world beater and certainly no better than what we have. In fact it’s easy to make a case for Griggs recent record being far more impressive so unsure what the problem is.
My reference to 1200 was logical as it was based on a fact of the numbers attending games in that division on Saturday. Major surprise is you haven’t mentioned Delort scoring again on Saturday. Now there’s a man who could score for fun!
Here’s James Tavernier’s games and goals since 2009. Add all his games up, he has averaged less than 15 games per season. It doesn’t appear that he could hold a regular place down at most of the teams he played for. He’ll probably go out on loan to Shrewsbury or Wrexham in the January window. :woohoo:
Years Team Apps†(Gls)â€
2009–2014 Newcastle United 2 (0)
2011 → Gateshead (loan) 13 (0)
2011 → Carlisle United (loan) 16 (0)
2011–2012 → Sheffield Wednesday (loan) 6 (0)
2012 → Milton Keynes Dons (loan) 7 (0)
2013 → Shrewsbury Town (loan) 1 (0)
2013–2014→ Rotherham United (loan) 27 (5)
2014–2015 Wigan Athletic 11 (0)
2015 → Bristol City (loan) 12 (3)
2015– Rangers 3 (2)* Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only.
†Appearances (Goals).From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!Thought you were out of this thread? :lol:
Love how people just drag stats off Wikipedia and don’t go into the real detail!
The other day I was chastised on here about Harry Kane’s loan spells before he made it at Spurs, well James Tavernier is 23 and his last 2 loan spells have been hugely successful, in seeing him promoted both times from this division. He made 30 appearances for Rotherham and scored 5 goals, a far better return than say Fortune last season despite being a defender. At Bristol City he started 9 games from the 12 appearances quoted and scored 3 goals. He has so far scored 2 goal in 3 games at a massive club called Rangers no matter how many fans he played in front of FFS!
In my opinion given regular football the lad is proving himself to be a talent despite the ridicule by the football mensa brains on here. Don’t forget he played for us at a time when that daft German was chopping and changing like nobody’s business and masterminding our downfall, don’t forget this fella was sacked on the basis he’d lost the plot. He didn’t sign for Rotherham as they couldn’t compete with what we were offering, I don’t know why Bristol City didn’t pursue him, I know their fans were very keen but I’m sure he’d rather be at Rangers and I can’t blame him for wanting to be away from us & this division. I’d imagine he just wants to play football and get some success.
OK now I’ve slapped you about a bit with Tavernier and the actual facts, Waghorn.
40 appearances for WAFC, 21 starts, 8 goals. Would have led the line far better than Fortune, would have scored more goals than Fortune, never given the chance. One more clueless decision by the management. The Millwall sending off was daft but pure frustration. We were already down after the failings of the management, to say he sealed our doomed is clutching at straws, in your faltering argument. If you actually look at his goals per minutes played (career) it’s at 1 goal every 268 minutes or a 1 in 3 games ratio.
I also know how old Kenny Miller is and that paragraph you spout about him shows you up as Mr Irrelevant. WTF have Pele and Maradonna got to do with Kenny Miller playing for Rangers at 36 when he can still cut it.
Saying that you were probably arguing with someone about Kevin Phillips comparing him to a 95yr old Eusabio when he was still banging them in at 40!Delort is doing well, I’ll leave it at that, the only reason I’m still here about Tavernier and Waghorn is to answer the point of view that both are shite just because they didn’t look very good to some, when the whole team was dirt due to terrible tactics and mis-management.
To slate a division or Kenny Miller or Fraser Fyvie or Pele or Maradonna just because 2 lads we let go are doing well is just childish.
Up the Gers!
Just to chuck my twopenneth in:
Waghorn – he was a strange one. I never really knew what his best position was when he was at Latics. Not quick enough to be played out wide & didn’t seem to have enough movement or nouse to be a striker (& certainly not the right type to play up front on his todd). But he used to impress me when he came on as sub & per minutes on the pitch, his scoring record was good. That said whilst he impressed me when he came on as a sub, whenever he seemed to start a game I thought he disappointed. I always thought he was a very strange signing to be honest – at a time when the club was still hoping to go straight back up I never felt it made sense to get him permanently as there was no way in a million years that he is good enough for the top flight. It just seemed to be a signing that lacked ambition or was an acceptance that we wouldn’t get promoted & then on top of that Rosler never seemed to want to play him anyway but then that seemed to be par for the course with pretty much everyone he brought in
Tavernier – only getting to the odd game I didn’t see a great deal of him but the comments I got from other Latics fans weren’t particularly glowing with one contractor I know through work describing him as an absolute liability & incapable of defending. His last 2 loan periods look impressive on paper to a club in League One but looking at the period at Bristol City, he only started in 9 games out of the 22 Bristol City played from his arrival until the end of the season. Yes he contributed to their promotion every time he was called upon but when you don’t play any part whatsoever in 10 of 22 games its hardly integral or a guarantee that he’d have been a successful starter at Latics this season.
If I’m honest, I’d have liked to have seen both of them at this level to see how they’d have done for us as I thought they’d have done okay. That said I didn’t particularly shed any tears when they were sacrificed either coz the manager didn’t rate them or because it was felt their departure could fund replacements that would make the squad as a whole stronger (rightly or wrongly – only time will tell).
However the fact that both seem to be doing well at Rangers is no indication of how well they’d have done at Latics this term. Rangers & Hibs could probably both give most teams in this division a game (& beat them) but you can’t escape the fact that the rest of the division is a very poor standard. That’s not criticising those teams but when they only pull in 900-2000 crowds & where sponsorship & TV deals bring them buttons in comparison to England they will only be able to get lower quality players on a par with conference/lower league 2Just to chuck my twopenneth in:Waghorn – he was a strange one. I never really knew what his best position was when he was at Latics. Not quick enough to be played out wide & didn’t seem to have enough movement or nouse to be a striker (& certainly not the right type to play up front on his todd). But he used to impress me when he came on as sub & per minutes on the pitch, his scoring record was good. That said whilst he impressed me when he came on as a sub, whenever he seemed to start a game I thought he disappointed. I always thought he was a very strange signing to be honest – at a time when the club was still hoping to go straight back up I never felt it made sense to get him permanently as there was no way in a million years that he is good enough for the top flight. It just seemed to be a signing that lacked ambition or was an acceptance that we wouldn’t get promoted & then on top of that Rosler never seemed to want to play him anyway but then that seemed to be par for the course with pretty much everyone he brought in
Tavernier – only getting to the odd game I didn’t see a great deal of him but the comments I got from other Latics fans weren’t particularly glowing with one contractor I know through work describing him as an absolute liability & incapable of defending. His last 2 loan periods look impressive on paper to a club in League One but looking at the period at Bristol City, he only started in 9 games out of the 22 Bristol City played from his arrival until the end of the season. Yes he contributed to their promotion every time he was called upon but when you don’t play any part whatsoever in 10 of 22 games its hardly integral or a guarantee that he’d have been a successful starter at Latics this season.
If I’m honest, I’d have liked to have seen both of them at this level to see how they’d have done for us as I thought they’d have done okay. That said I didn’t particularly shed any tears when they were sacrificed either coz the manager didn’t rate them or because it was felt their departure could fund replacements that would make the squad as a whole stronger (rightly or wrongly – only time will tell).
However the fact that both seem to be doing well at Rangers is no indication of how well they’d have done at Latics this term. Rangers & Hibs could probably both give most teams in this division a game (& beat them) but you can’t escape the fact that the rest of the division is a very poor standard. That’s not criticising those teams but when they only pull in 900-2000 crowds & where sponsorship & TV deals bring them buttons in comparison to England they will only be able to get lower quality players on a par with conference/lower league 2It’s not often I agree with you, that pretty much sums up my opinion too!
Maybe the reason a lot of players have failed here have been down to poor management decisions and playing the wrong tactics. A lot has been said about what the manager saw on the training ground and the players picked. Well im not being funny but the dross they turned out most matchdays must put their eventual choices into question.I would have liked to see Tav and Wags stay but not in the same formation as we seem to have adopted. Is it not just down to the fact that Rangers play a more expansive and attacking system to our own and that is why they appear to be flourishing.Just a thought.
Thought you were out of this thread? :lol:Love how people just drag stats off Wikipedia and don’t go into the real detail!
The other day I was chastised on here about Harry Kane’s loan spells before he made it at Spurs, well James Tavernier is 23 and his last 2 loan spells have been hugely successful, in seeing him promoted both times from this division. He made 30 appearances for Rotherham and scored 5 goals, a far better return than say Fortune last season despite being a defender. At Bristol City he started 9 games from the 12 appearances quoted and scored 3 goals. He has so far scored 2 goal in 3 games at a massive club called Rangers no matter how many fans he played in front of FFS!
In my opinion given regular football the lad is proving himself to be a talent despite the ridicule by the football mensa brains on here. Don’t forget he played for us at a time when that daft German was chopping and changing like nobody’s business and masterminding our downfall, don’t forget this fella was sacked on the basis he’d lost the plot. He didn’t sign for Rotherham as they couldn’t compete with what we were offering, I don’t know why Bristol City didn’t pursue him, I know their fans were very keen but I’m sure he’d rather be at Rangers and I can’t blame him for wanting to be away from us & this division. I’d imagine he just wants to play football and get some success.
OK now I’ve slapped you about a bit with Tavernier and the actual facts, Waghorn.
40 appearances for WAFC, 21 starts, 8 goals. Would have led the line far better than Fortune, would have scored more goals than Fortune, never given the chance. One more clueless decision by the management. The Millwall sending off was daft but pure frustration. We were already down after the failings of the management, to say he sealed our doomed is clutching at straws, in your faltering argument. If you actually look at his goals per minutes played (career) it’s at 1 goal every 268 minutes or a 1 in 3 games ratio.
I also know how old Kenny Miller is and that paragraph you spout about him shows you up as Mr Irrelevant. WTF have Pele and Maradonna got to do with Kenny Miller playing for Rangers at 36 when he can still cut it.
Saying that you were probably arguing with someone about Kevin Phillips comparing him to a 95yr old Eusabio when he was still banging them in at 40!Delort is doing well, I’ll leave it at that, the only reason I’m still here about Tavernier and Waghorn is to answer the point of view that both are shite just because they didn’t look very good to some, when the whole team was dirt due to terrible tactics and mis-management.
To slate a division or Kenny Miller or Fraser Fyvie or Pele or Maradonna just because 2 lads we let go are doing well is just childish.
Up the Gers!
Slapped me about a bit over Tavernier?? :lol: ? I suppose all your stats where straight out of your head. :lol:
Lets discuss his appearances for Bristol. He was bench warming as usual and got a lucky break when the player keeping him out of the team was injured. So your reference to a successful spell should read, not deemed good enough by the league 1 team to start games, but was fortunate to be the only fit right back at the club so managed to get a few games. Check Wikipedia I doubt there is any mention of this.I’ll answer your question why didn’t Bristol sign him, because he just wasn’t good enough.
You can’t knock him for scoring goals, but it needs elaborating on, as most of them where probably free kicks. Agreed, Fortune had a hopeless return for Latics, but might have got a few more if given free kick duties around the edge of the box.
You say “In my opinion given regular football the lad is proving himself”… is he really after just 3 or 4 games??
Just remember is average games per season over the past 6 seasons, what makes you think it will change after just a few games?.
Good luck to the lad I to hope he does well for Rangers, but for you to give the ner, ner, nener, ner just cos he and Waggs have had a decent start for Rangers is ridiculous.
I very much doubt, anyone who has managed him at Wigan will be thinking “If only I’d played him” :lol:Now that I’ve took your slap without blinking and kicked you in the bollucks over Tavernier, lets move on to Waggs.
Your bold statements about Waghorn would have done this and would have done that are based on exactly what? an inkling?, a feeling in your water?, a secret crush on him?
I actually liked the player, always wanted him to come into the team and secure his place, but he just didn’t make things happen.Led the line better than Fortune? Don’t think so, MAF was good at holding the ball up,running the channels and linking up, he was just absolute garbage in front of goal. The system being deployed by the various managers was one lone striker, like it or lump it.
I notice the jury is still out on Waghorn at Rangers, have a browse round their forums. I also wish him well there, but have not lost any sleep over the fact he’s gone.
I’m still of the opinion that the class of football both Waggs and Tavs are currently playing at is no better than league one. Miller is passed it and Fyvie has never had it, it was you who started the childish remarks off, with that ludicrous statement about 35 year old Kenny Miller. You set yourself right up for the Pele / Maradona statement,
Finally when are people going to understand that attendances don’t bring good teams or good players. Yes rangers play in front of a massive crowd -EVERY TWO WEEKS, the other weeks they will be no bigger than League One in England. So your point is what?
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What a journey!Is it not just down to the fact that Rangers play a more expansive and attacking system to our own and that is why they appear to be flourishing.Just a thought.
Or maybe the poor standard of the opposition makes them look as though they are playing more expansively and attackingly?
Tavs nets the winner for Rangers against Hibs today!
Which just goes to show how shyte that Scottish Championship football is. Fraser Fyfie was playing for Hibs, Kenny miller for Rangers, nuff said. :P[/quote]
You mentioned Kenny Miller and came out with that childish drivel just because someone mentioned they were doing well. Not me. You also carried on the irrelevance with your pele/maradonna comments, then started with your wiki stats, you’d also stated you were done with the thread.
I’ve just had my twopenneth worth in response which I hope would have answered most of your points, if you had any in the first place.
As it happens they’re gone and we have to do well with what we’ve got, we’ll never know how they’d really have got on for us given a run in the team but for me they’re both good footballers who deserved better here, I can’t really see why you made the original post. You seem to forget what you’ve wrote and in what order and mostly lose track of threads, must be your age.
Thought you were out of this thread? :lol:
Love how people just drag stats off Wikipedia and don’t go into the real detail!
The other day I was chastised on here about Harry Kane’s loan spells before he made it at Spurs, well James Tavernier is 23 and his last 2 loan spells have been hugely successful, in seeing him promoted both times from this division. He made 30 appearances for Rotherham and scored 5 goals, a far better return than say Fortune last season despite being a defender. At Bristol City he started 9 games from the 12 appearances quoted and scored 3 goals. He has so far scored 2 goal in 3 games at a massive club called Rangers no matter how many fans he played in front of FFS!
In my opinion given regular football the lad is proving himself to be a talent despite the ridicule by the football mensa brains on here. Don’t forget he played for us at a time when that daft German was chopping and changing like nobody’s business and masterminding our downfall, don’t forget this fella was sacked on the basis he’d lost the plot. He didn’t sign for Rotherham as they couldn’t compete with what we were offering, I don’t know why Bristol City didn’t pursue him, I know their fans were very keen but I’m sure he’d rather be at Rangers and I can’t blame him for wanting to be away from us & this division. I’d imagine he just wants to play football and get some success.
OK now I’ve slapped you about a bit with Tavernier and the actual facts, Waghorn.
40 appearances for WAFC, 21 starts, 8 goals. Would have led the line far better than Fortune, would have scored more goals than Fortune, never given the chance. One more clueless decision by the management. The Millwall sending off was daft but pure frustration. We were already down after the failings of the management, to say he sealed our doomed is clutching at straws, in your faltering argument. If you actually look at his goals per minutes played (career) it’s at 1 goal every 268 minutes or a 1 in 3 games ratio.
I also know how old Kenny Miller is and that paragraph you spout about him shows you up as Mr Irrelevant. WTF have Pele and Maradonna got to do with Kenny Miller playing for Rangers at 36 when he can still cut it.
Saying that you were probably arguing with someone about Kevin Phillips comparing him to a 95yr old Eusabio when he was still banging them in at 40!Delort is doing well, I’ll leave it at that, the only reason I’m still here about Tavernier and Waghorn is to answer the point of view that both are shite just because they didn’t look very good to some, when the whole team was dirt due to terrible tactics and mis-management.
To slate a division or Kenny Miller or Fraser Fyvie or Pele or Maradonna just because 2 lads we let go are doing well is just childish.
Up the Gers!
Slapped me about a bit over Tavernier?? :lol: ? I suppose all your stats where straight out of your head. :lol:
Lets discuss his appearances for Bristol. He was bench warming as usual and got a lucky break when the player keeping him out of the team was injured. So your reference to a successful spell should read, not deemed good enough by the league 1 team to start games, but was fortunate to be the only fit right back at the club so managed to get a few games. Check Wikipedia I doubt there is any mention of this.I’ll answer your question why didn’t Bristol sign him, because he just wasn’t good enough.
You can’t knock him for scoring goals, but it needs elaborating on, as most of them where probably free kicks. Agreed, Fortune had a hopeless return for Latics, but might have got a few more if given free kick duties around the edge of the box.
You say “In my opinion given regular football the lad is proving himself”… is he really after just 3 or 4 games??
Just remember is average games per season over the past 6 seasons, what makes you think it will change after just a few games?.
Good luck to the lad I to hope he does well for Rangers, but for you to give the ner, ner, nener, ner just cos he and Waggs have had a decent start for Rangers is ridiculous.
I very much doubt, anyone who has managed him at Wigan will be thinking “If only I’d played him” :lol:Now that I’ve took your slap without blinking and kicked you in the bollucks over Tavernier, lets move on to Waggs.
Your bold statements about Waghorn would have done this and would have done that are based on exactly what? an inkling?, a feeling in your water?, a secret crush on him?
I actually liked the player, always wanted him to come into the team and secure his place, but he just didn’t make things happen.Led the line better than Fortune? Don’t think so, MAF was good at holding the ball up,running the channels and linking up, he was just absolute garbage in front of goal. The system being deployed by the various managers was one lone striker, like it or lump it.
I notice the jury is still out on Waghorn at Rangers, have a browse round their forums. I also wish him well there, but have not lost any sleep over the fact he’s gone.
I’m still of the opinion that the class of football both Waggs and Tavs are currently playing at is no better than league one. Miller is passed it and Fyvie has never had it, it was you who started the childish remarks off, with that ludicrous statement about 35 year old Kenny Miller. You set yourself right up for the Pele / Maradona statement,
Finally when are people going to understand that attendances don’t bring good teams or good players. Yes rangers play in front of a massive crowd -EVERY TWO WEEKS, the other weeks they will be no bigger than League One in England. So your point is what? :whistle:[/quote]
So You’re ignoring the Rotherham games and his previous regular football?making things up about Bristol City not taking him. The evidence is there I’m hardly quoting only 4 Rangers games am I? As for attendances I wasn’t the one talking about them in the first place was I?
You are all there aren’t you?Is it not just down to the fact that Rangers play a more expansive and attacking system to our own and that is why they appear to be flourishing.Just a thought.
Or maybe the poor standard of the opposition makes them look as though they are playing more expansively and attackingly?
You could be right gl but don’t you find it weird how many have been signed and either not played or have been useless. Both Rosler and Malky signed players and then never picked them. Grant Holt came with a reputation for scoring in the prem and never gets a proper run. Surely the managers had these guys watched before buying them. So somewhere along the line it is not just the players who have been hopeless.
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