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You say look at the stats, apart from the horrendous tonkings, OK which stats?
This isn’t the lowest place we have ever finished (90th is, 17th in Prem/England).
We haven’t recorded our lowest goals scored.
We have acheived (by whatever means) exactly what the target was.
We have earned the right (even without ignoring the tonkings) to be in the Premier League next season due to acheiving more points than 4 other teams.
We are still financially Ok.I can’t even see what it is he’s trying to achieve. Even if the legendary and mythical Warchest was opened for him, he’d be lucky to attract anyone after what happened last season.
So you can’t see how he has changed the style of our play since last season?
To be fair, I can see how the style of play has changed and it is for the better from a purist’s view but to execute it, you need top class players and we’re just a bit too thin on the ground with them. If you’re not in the top eight, you have to be cloggers, hoofers and battlers. I admire his ethos but it won’t keep us up next season.
As for the rest of your post, there’s more positive spin on it than Warne and Muralitharan could muster together ;)
”They’ve had some good possession but are guilty of trying to over-play it. Correct that, they are over-playing it”“It would be far too easy to blame the red card for this scoreline. To collapse in the way that they have done in this second half, and have done in alot of other games this season, shows that there is something fundamentally wrong”
Both of those comments were made by Andy Gray yesterday and sum up just 2 of the problems that are glaringly obvious at Latics & have been there throughout the season – Yet I’m still hearing Latics fans saying give Bobby time, he’s still learning, he’s the right man for the job & we beat 3 of the “big 4” so it show’s he’s on the right track
That last one in particular is getting more irritating every time its mentioned. Lets forget getting thumped by Blackpool, 5-0 to United, 5-0 to United 4-0 to Arsenal, 4-0 to Portsmouth, 9-1 to Spurs, 2-0 to a bottom division side at home in the FA Cup, 4-0 to Bolton, 8-0 to Chelsea, losing at home to Wolves, not being able to score at home against Portsmouth’s reserve/youth side, being unable to beat Hull City home or away, collapsing at home to Birmingham and collapsing in the last 10 minutes at home to Spurs
These games have taken place pretty much from the start of the season to the last & for all Bobby’s talk of “learning curves” (didn’t you just know that one would get trotted out yesterday??), that the man himself is learning absolutely nothing.
For all those clinging to the Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool games. As enjoyable as they were – the Arsenal game was a freak result after 80 minutes of football as turgid as the rest of the season, Liverpool lost 11 league games this season only scored as many away goals as Latics & 1 more than Burnley and finished 7th (Latics have beaten teams who have finished 7th before) & Latics wound up playing against 10 & then 9 men in the Chelsea victoryThere is only one direction that Latics are heading under Martinez & it sure as hell isn’t towards challenging for Europe
Cripes mate, don’t come on here posting something so ‘negative’ but unerringly accurate and expect to get away with it.
The defenders of the indefensible will be here to get you soon.
Yeah, I’d love it too but it’s called an opinion and judging by Chelsea’s recent form and what they’re capable of and judging by our recent form and what we’re capable of, he might just be right.
Nowt like a bit of siege mentality gone bananas is there?
‘Banjostring- You are SO far wrong in calling me a JCL, it’s deluded.’
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
And as for anybody calling me the ‘biggest bulls**tter’…..go on then, explain why. Either here, or by PM. Seriously, you can’t throw that kind of accusation about without backing it up.
If I’ve been to Mars you’ve been twice…..
Most Pointless Poster: Everybody except the admin, GL, Griff, SW, Jrfatfan and myself.
Get your tongue out of there.
By the way, you might have to find someone else to be a funny poster, from now on. I’m off abroad working for a bit. Later kiddas
There you go again.
Pessimism and realism are two different things. I think I’m being realistic when I say what I say. I don’t think the clubs achievements can be and haven’t been bigged up nearly enough, it’s an amazing story, but nothing lasts forever.
I sincerely hope we stay in the top league but I still don’t see us as being the sort of club who can attract players who can get us to being a regular mid-table team.
Fortunately for me, my life doesn’t begin and end with WAFC so whatever happens, I won’t be losing that much sleep. Maybe that’s why I can be an eternal realist rather than an eternal optimist.
If we continue to be as well financially managed as we are now then I can see a better run than Middlesborough (11)…..when we settle we will be great. Patience is a virtue……it takes a generation to bring the crowds.We will prevail.
I wish I could share your optimism. You’re right in the fact that it takes a generation to bring the crowds but next season’s our last in the Prem so the crowds will dwindle anyway.
Sad truth is three worse teams kept us up this season and the fact we beat three of the top four is not an indication of how far we’ve come. It’s nothing more than anomaly. We’re in decline not ascent.
The calibre of teams coming up is far better than last time around and we’re going to struggle big time. It was purgatory this season.
Ain’t it great starting a season with your highest hope being you finish 16th or thereabouts?
Reading the last thread about Griff being the most frequent poster got me thinking, just abit of fun like, but please state who you think should win the following awards…Funniest Poster
Most Positive Poster
Biggest Moaner
Biggest Bullsh1tter
Most Frequent Poster
Longest Fan
Biggest JCL
Most Pointless Poster
Most obvious multi posterLet the voting begin!!!
Funniest Poster junglejungle
Most Positive Poster dfkdfc
Biggest Moaner dfkdfc
Biggest Bullsh1tter Vat69
Most Frequent Poster Griff
Longest Fan dfkdfc
Biggest JCL Vat69
Most Pointless Poster banjostring
Most obvious multi poster ArkwrightAccording to Wikipedia, what else beggars belief is that FC Nantes parted with a (rumoured) 3m Euros for him in 2006.
And he’s 6’5 apparently. Looks about 5’9 tops to me.
Is this the worst case of a some ordinary bod charading as a pro footballer since Julius Aghahowa darkened our doorstep?
How can you expect Stojkovic to come in every blue moon and have a blinder. The lad doesnt speak a word of english and isnt getting a fair chance. No one slated Rodallega when he didnt score for donkeys and he played every game until he chalked his first one. I see most of the fans slating him are the same ones who were slating Diame at christmas timeRearrange this:
Turd A Can’t You Polish
It looks like Martinez wants Chelsea to win the title. Just think of the uproar [s:kakml6f6]if[/s:kakml6f6] when a Stojkovic howler hands Chelsea the titleThe certainty of inevitability.
