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”This is what I don’t get… if Kapo hates Bruce so much, why did he follow him from Birmingham? ”
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money.
long contract.
premier league.are you thick?
No, son.
Are you an obnoxious t***? I think so
says int WEP chomping at bit to get int first team is this the same mon who wanted to fo ok off after five minutes of being here ,or is it so he can impress and fo ok of int January transfer window ?This is what I don’t get… if Kapo hates Bruce so much, why did he follow him from Birmingham? :?
… and because your company is doing as well as it possibly can they need to recruit better staff to sustain its succes, you signed a contract the previous year still on min wage but all the new staff are coming in and getting twice as much as you and haven’t bin there as long as you, i am sure you would want to renegotiate your deal.In my experience, the company doing well doesn’t necessarily lead to increased salaries all round but I take your point.
Fair enough, we will have to agree to disagree, i can see your point but i think you are misguided (don’t know if thats the right word). I am actually a bit shocked that anyone could class JB as a mercenary but everyone has their own opinions.What is everyone elses view on this please?
My view is that there is not one pro footballer out there who is not in it for the money. And why not, it’s only a job to them after all? Can’t be doing with all this badge kissing either, totally false and meaningless. I’d like to see the reaction at work if I walked up and kissed the company logo on the front desk after obtaining the sign off for a proposal from a particularly difficult board member.
There are probably degrees of ‘mercenary’ though. Ryan Giggs, for example, might be seen as the perfect pro, though I guess it’s easy to look that way when someone is prepared to give you £100k per week without even asking for it. Then you have someone like Winston Bogarde who happily took £40k per week for 5 years from Chelsea without even looking like playing a game.
I guess Jimmy, and 99% of footballers, fall somewhere in between the two.
i also know that kirkland was all set to go to sunderland but his back gave in so they wasnt prepaired to risk signing him, i heard this a while ago now so i forgot who the source was but it was someone from within the club.You know that many people in the club prepared to spill the beans to you that you forgot which unprofessional numpty it was?
Or you heard it from a mate’s mate’s brother’s guinea pig?
Or, ladies and gentlemen of the board, we have a new multi to tediously wind us up for the next fer weeks
Living in the glory hunter society we live in. I am proud to be a Latics supporter. It’s easy to pick the best team in the country, and say I’ll support them. Then celebrate all the success they get and gloat to everyone else. But supporting your local team, for that reason alone. And supporting them throughout thick and thin, after 6-1 defeats to canvey island etc, and 4-0 wins against Man City makes us alot better football fans than the glory hunters. This way success is sweeter, the novelty never wears off because you know as a Latics fan you’ve earned the success. And the memories I personally have had as a Latics fan are incomparable. and I don’t think I could have laughed, cried or enjoyed myself more supporting any other club in the world!Up the tics!!
And then moaning like f*** about them 24 hours a day :roll:
Angel Rangel, Luke Young, Nedum Onouha, Alan Hutton, Lucas Neillneed I go on?
Rangel – why does everyone rave about this lad? I see he his still where he has always been. Doesn’t seem to be a huge queue waiting to buy him, does there?
Young – maybe. He’s on a par with Melchiot but not much better, in my view.
Onouha, Hutton – probably wouldn’t come to Wigan.
Neill – you would pay that scumbag the ridiculous wages he would no doubt demand? In fact, scratch that question – you probably would.
I think he’s overrated and there’s plenty of better full backs defensively and offensively that we should be looking at.Go on then, who?
After reading those comments about digging in and not trying to pass round them I had to chuckle to myself.
How ironic is it, that the few teams that beat chelsea do it by playing football and passing round them. OK these teams have top quality players who in the main are man for man better than ours, but the methodology is still the same.I personally would like to see us develop the passing game getting the odd hammering by the top four teams than being labelled just a gutsy little team out to kick and stop teams playing. We saw some woeful displays against the top 4 teams under Jewell and Bruce and guess what, apart from the draw at Liverpool and the cup win at home to Arsenal we still lost every game.
Bobby has a plan, yes for once one of our mangagers actually has a plan and is hell bent on making it work. OK it will take time to get it to the standards he wants but the Villa game was proof that it can work and more importantly work with these players.
So as fans of Wigan Athletic Football Club, lets not get this mentality that Bobby has already recognised in the players and wants to change, i.e. being beaten before the first whistle has been blown.
Now I know that me and thee have had minor differences in this past but I could not possibly agree more with that post.
I know what you’re trying to say Griff & I’ve been watching Latics long enough to be able to take a defeat on the chin without demanding the manager’s head on a plate but its the manner of certain defeats that gets a reaction from me & saturday’s game was one of them
Likewise when all but one of the performances this season have been whale (IMO) then you start to notice a pattern!!Yep, I’m starting to think that way too.
A case in point for me was the 5-man break-away at Everton. When Sinclair decided to go it alone and ignore 4 team-mates in arguably better positions, not one of them complained. They just turned round and walked back. Rooney would have tvvatted him. Adebayor would probably have knifed him.
No-one seems to care. Is it the manager’s fault, is it the player’s fault. Or is it players which have no respect for the manager simply not trying for him. If so,we have been here before with Jewell, Whelan and the Wrexham game.
When Jewell was in charge he used to say quite openly that he wrote off the games against the bigger sides before the season began. He used to say it befroe the season & he used to come out in the press & say it in the week building up to the games.
I could see where he was coming from but you could also see more often than not the effect that this had on the players & the whole attitude of the team showed they were beaten before a ball was kicked.
Under Steve Bruce that outlook changed & whilst we still never won, the performances against the bigger clubs got better, we stopped shipping so many goals against em, we actually went to their gorunds & took points off em & hell at times looked like we might actually beat em.
You could see the players attitude had changed & a few of em even came out in the press & said that due to the preparation & manager they actually went into the games believing they could get something out of em for the first time. Hell the club even started to progress up the table for a couple of seasons
So, to me, the suggestion that we should play stiffs & youth teamers against the big clubs is a pathetic one no matter how tongue in cheek it was. If your only aim is to survive & you surrender games against certain clubs before a ball is kicked then you may as well not bother to play in the top flight
Unless of course you’re quite happy listening to your manager after seeing him rest 6 players at the likes of United & Liverpool – the latter of which was a pathetic display that he tried to justify on the grounds he’d got his tactics spot on coz we hadn’t got a kicking. Nevermind Liverpool had rested a shedful of players coz the had a European Cup tie & there was a chance we could have got somet out of it. Like Fulham did against a similarly weakened Liverpool side 2 weeks later!!Agree 100%, but at the same time, we have to accept that 9 times out of 10 we will probably be beaten by these clubs.
At the weekend, Spurs lost 3-0 to Chelsea, Blakburn lost 3-0 at Everton. You could argue that the fans of these so-called bigger clubs could have more grounds for being disappointed than us. That said, I presume that those two teams tried to win the games yet still got dicked. If we had gone to Arsenal with a more positive attitude (or even a more determined and cohesive negative attitude :? ) we may have only lost 2-0 (or dare I say 2-1) and there might not be as much doom, gloom and despondency around the place as there is today.
Just to let those know that didn’t know already, there is now a music forum on the general boards page for you to put links to new and old stuff and argue what was/is best.Shouldn’t this be in the music forum? :lol:
Considering Sir Bobby Charlton’s was only a tenner.All profits of which probably went in his sky, Vat. Whereas all of the profit from Whelan’s book goes into the new Wigan Boys and Girls club fund, allegedly.
I think that you can put a substantial amount of the increase down to the increase in publishing costs since Bobby Charlton produced his papyrus version.
Some modern authors still manage to buck the trend, however.
http://www.lulu.com/content/1070253
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