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I wont begrudge the guy going to a club like Liverpool although I will be dissapointed to lose him.
Be brilliant if he has the talks and turns them down.
Them sort of headlines could add another 1000 season tickets for 12/13.
On the bright side if he leaves and we start playing rubbish again Hindley_Blue can happily go back to complaining constantly while offering no opinion on what could be done to improve the situation.
Salford your obviously a very sad lonely individual as even when I’m not posting you have to include me in your posts. Back to topic I posted hundreds of times that the team could not play Bob’s formation or tactics. I suggested perhaps a change may be the way forward but you said Bob was doing a great job with what he had and a change would make no difference. If Bob had not changed the formation of the previous two and a half years we would have gone down with bells on.
True or not???
Oh and just for the record me suggesting a change of tactics and formation is me expressing an opinion dickhead[/quote]
Your the one who has to snipe at every little thing I say cause you have be shown up to be the sad little muppet you are on more than one occasion.
When did I say a change of tactics would not work? I remember openly asking for a proposal of tactics that was not 4-4-2.
I dont remember getting a response from you.
you are a sad little internet troll ( obviously that term is lost on you ) and you have caught me good and propper.
Perhaps we should both attend one of Griff’s care in the community events then you can call me a dickhead to my face instead of sat trolling behind a computer screen.
You look over to the bench and see Connor Sammon and Michael Owen sat there, who do you tell to warm up?
Connor Sammon shouldn’t even be on the bench in the first place he is quite simply not good enough so your closing statement is a poor comparison to be fair ![/quote]
Are you being deliberately thick, Phil? Clearly JRs inference is that Sammon is nowhere near the player that Owen is, and you agree with him, so it’s a fantastic comparison.[/quote]
My thoughts exactly but I couldnt be arsed getting into that one.
I can be arsed getting into this one though.. Jason Scotland over Sammon …. All that pinapple express is going to your head Filly and you’re losing your memory…
Sammon can at least push on against tiring defenders in the latter minutes of the game and looks like if he can sort his elephant first touch out he may score a few goals.. Scotland offered nothing in his time here whatsoever.[/quote]
If you are insinuating I am a pot head you got the wrong Brother pal ! If you think Sammon is a decent bench player for a Prem team then fair enough but you are in a minority there pal because he is Championship class at best and that view is held by many many fans ! I like him for his effort but he comes up well short and has been found wanting at this class ! As for this comparison business I will say that Varney who has just been signed to Leicester from Fleetwood could quite easily replace Owen in Fatfan’s scenario !![/quote]
Thank you for further enforcing JR’s original point !
Sterling contribution Filly :pinch:
I wont begrudge the guy going to a club like Liverpool although I will be dissapointed to lose him.
Be brilliant if he has the talks and turns them down.
Them sort of headlines could add another 1000 season tickets for 12/13.
On the bright side if he leaves and we start playing rubbish again Hindley_Blue can happily go back to complaining constantly while offering no opinion on what could be done to improve the situation.
England are a country mile behind Germany at football with only 2 victories of note against them in 46 years !!
… and United had beaten Latics how many times…?[/quote]
We as a club are more aware than most that anyone can beat anyone on their day with the right plan…
Does England have that plan?
I hope so but I predict a dissapointing tournament even by Englands standards.
Bob arrived we look like a football team and not even Bob himself saw it coming. And that’s a fact Salford a statement from the man himself when asked why the turn around, I don’t know he said.
So all the positives in the defeats that you and the darkside called deluded/fook off manual /spanish waiter and then you come out with that statement I agree with Salford and the poster that a miserable coont
What positives in all the defeats??? It was fookin embarrassing for the most part. And my statement about Bob is an actual quote from the man himself at the player of the season do. But I shouldn’t have worried you and Salford knew this would happen :whistle:[/quote]
As apposed to your predictions nostradamus :silly:
Steve Bruce with Eric Black as his assistant would be my choice
There’s about as much chance of that happening as I have of going to the moon a week next Tuesday.
Let’s keep it realistic, eh.[/quote]
Black is at the chicken ranch so he wont be back but spud yead well never say never he is still in close contact with dw they play golf reguarly and he his the godfather to the fish n chip mon, so if i was you contact NASA and see how much it will cost ;)[/quote]
NASA have stopped putting people into space so I reckon I won’t be going to the moon anytime soon.
goodpost[/quote]well if you had you would have been the first !! I am still laughing at the idea of Jones being our manager !!! Classic !! ha ha ha[/quote]
Oh sorry filly I forgot you were such good judge of a managers potential. :lol:[/quote]
See Salford this is what I’m talking about a great end to the season and you have him down as a future Jose or Pep. He has a long way to go and a lot to learn before you can talk about him as a great manager and only time will tell if he ever gets there.[/quote]
haha your attempt at sniping is getting pathetic !!
you cant win a debate to save your life so you resort to putting words in peoples mouth.
run along.[/quote]
Salford you talk about having a debate and call me a mongoid either 1)your not very old which would explain your crush on Bobby or 2)your just plain numb ;)[/quote]
Like I said I calls em like I sees em.
Its not a debate with you though is it.
You’re a sad little troll trolling around because you have been proven wrong by the best young manager in europe ;)
At least Filadelphia has opinions even if they are stupid most of the time.[/quote]
How are we not debating Salford??? And with regards to your name calling grow up.[/quote]
This is petty bickering not debating you are the one who needs to grow up sunshine.
Salford’s integrity went flying out the window when he suggest Jones as a potential manager for us !! ha ha ha You just couldn’t make it up ! ha ha haHe used to play for us but you wont remember that will you as you were supporting villa at the time?
Integrity :lol:
Steve Bruce with Eric Black as his assistant would be my choice
There’s about as much chance of that happening as I have of going to the moon a week next Tuesday.
Let’s keep it realistic, eh.[/quote]
Black is at the chicken ranch so he wont be back but spud yead well never say never he is still in close contact with dw they play golf reguarly and he his the godfather to the fish n chip mon, so if i was you contact NASA and see how much it will cost ;)[/quote]
NASA have stopped putting people into space so I reckon I won’t be going to the moon anytime soon.
goodpost[/quote]well if you had you would have been the first !! I am still laughing at the idea of Jones being our manager !!! Classic !! ha ha ha[/quote]
Oh sorry filly I forgot you were such good judge of a managers potential. :lol:[/quote]
See Salford this is what I’m talking about a great end to the season and you have him down as a future Jose or Pep. He has a long way to go and a lot to learn before you can talk about him as a great manager and only time will tell if he ever gets there.[/quote]
haha your attempt at sniping is getting pathetic !!
you cant win a debate to save your life so you resort to putting words in peoples mouth.
run along.[/quote]
Salford you talk about having a debate and call me a mongoid either 1)your not very old which would explain your crush on Bobby or 2)your just plain numb ;)[/quote]
Like I said I calls em like I sees em.
Its not a debate with you though is it.
You’re a sad little troll trolling around because you have been proven wrong by the best young manager in europe ;)
At least Filadelphia has opinions even if they are stupid most of the time.
Steve Bruce with Eric Black as his assistant would be my choice
There’s about as much chance of that happening as I have of going to the moon a week next Tuesday.
Let’s keep it realistic, eh.[/quote]
Black is at the chicken ranch so he wont be back but spud yead well never say never he is still in close contact with dw they play golf reguarly and he his the godfather to the fish n chip mon, so if i was you contact NASA and see how much it will cost ;)[/quote]
NASA have stopped putting people into space so I reckon I won’t be going to the moon anytime soon.
goodpost[/quote]well if you had you would have been the first !! I am still laughing at the idea of Jones being our manager !!! Classic !! ha ha ha[/quote]
Oh sorry filly I forgot you were such good judge of a managers potential. :lol:[/quote]
See Salford this is what I’m talking about a great end to the season and you have him down as a future Jose or Pep. He has a long way to go and a lot to learn before you can talk about him as a great manager and only time will tell if he ever gets there.[/quote]
haha your attempt at sniping is getting pathetic !!
you cant win a debate to save your life so you resort to putting words in peoples mouth.
run along.
Funny how the people who would begrudge him going to Liverpool are the same people who were calling for his head 6 months ago!!!!!!
I know it can be a bit frustrating hearing Whelan talking up players/managers that come good as if to put them in the shop window but surely this is one of our biggest attractions to young talented players that they can follow a similar route as the likes of Valencia without the club digging their heels in.
Look at the likes of Blackburn holding on to an unhappy Samba it didnt get them very far did it!!!
Anyway Dave Whelan is just being realistic maybe some on here should give it a try.
So you honestly believe that Bob has done us a favour this past 3 seasons??? We for the most part have been utter gash and until this amazing end to the season would not have got a job at Liverpool sweeping the car park. He is one of us you and the rest of the Lightside have preached for 3 years so now he can prove it.
If he’s as good as you think he is a couple more successful seasons will raise his stock and he will be able to take his pick of jobs.[/quote]
Fook me Hindley, you still are one miserable get sometimes![/quote]Sorry Standish after the end of season we’ve just had I’ve been buzzing but Salford with his Bob has done no wrong bull…. is doing my head. For the first time since Bob arrived we look like a football team and not even Bob himself saw it coming. And that’s a fact Salford a statement from the man himself when asked why the turn around, I don’t know he said.[/quote]
Hinders you tart.
Your doing my nut in with this bob can do no right gig.
Just had a fantastic end to the season and your still miserable.I have never said Roberto can do no wrong but even with his poor seasons he kept us up so no panic no need to be a drama queen about it is there !?!?
Makes me laugh at the thought you think he should of come in and the team instantly start playing like they did at the back end of last season you sound like a Liverpool fan…[/quote]
If it’s not you defending him all the time someone has stolen your identity because you will not have a bad word said about the bloke.[/quote]
I calls em like i sees em. Mongoid :P
Funny how the people who would begrudge him going to Liverpool are the same people who were calling for his head 6 months ago!!!!!!
I know it can be a bit frustrating hearing Whelan talking up players/managers that come good as if to put them in the shop window but surely this is one of our biggest attractions to young talented players that they can follow a similar route as the likes of Valencia without the club digging their heels in.
Look at the likes of Blackburn holding on to an unhappy Samba it didnt get them very far did it!!!
Anyway Dave Whelan is just being realistic maybe some on here should give it a try.
So you honestly believe that Bob has done us a favour this past 3 seasons??? We for the most part have been utter gash and until this amazing end to the season would not have got a job at Liverpool sweeping the car park. He is one of us you and the rest of the Lightside have preached for 3 years so now he can prove it.
If he’s as good as you think he is a couple more successful seasons will raise his stock and he will be able to take his pick of jobs.[/quote]
Fook me Hindley, you still are one miserable get sometimes![/quote]Sorry Standish after the end of season we’ve just had I’ve been buzzing but Salford with his Bob has done no wrong bull…. is doing my head. For the first time since Bob arrived we look like a football team and not even Bob himself saw it coming. And that’s a fact Salford a statement from the man himself when asked why the turn around, I don’t know he said.[/quote]
Hinders you tart.
Your doing my nut in with this bob can do no right gig.
Just had a fantastic end to the season and your still miserable.I have never said Roberto can do no wrong but even with his poor seasons he kept us up so no panic no need to be a drama queen about it is there !?!?
Makes me laugh at the thought you think he should of come in and the team instantly start playing like they did at the back end of last season you sound like a Liverpool fan…
Steve Bruce with Eric Black as his assistant would be my choice
There’s about as much chance of that happening as I have of going to the moon a week next Tuesday.
Let’s keep it realistic, eh.[/quote]
Black is at the chicken ranch so he wont be back but spud yead well never say never he is still in close contact with dw they play golf reguarly and he his the godfather to the fish n chip mon, so if i was you contact NASA and see how much it will cost ;)[/quote]
NASA have stopped putting people into space so I reckon I won’t be going to the moon anytime soon.
goodpost[/quote]well if you had you would have been the first !! I am still laughing at the idea of Jones being our manager !!! Classic !! ha ha ha[/quote]
Oh sorry filly I forgot you were such good judge of a managers potential. :lol:
Nothing lost of Moreno & Stojkovic??? So they played for free did they?? At the end of the day both were brought in with a view to a permanent signing & both were garbage so still “bad signings”
Lopez & Sammon have both been with Latics virtually as long as De Ridder & Kapo were before Bobby tried to offload them so you can’t write 2 of those off because it fits your argument & say that 2 others may still come good coz it does likewise. Going by that logic De Ridder & Kapo may well have come good too if they’d been given long enough. The fact of the matter is that neither have looked good enough as yet.
So thanks but I’ll keep Lopez & Sammon in there along with Moreno & Stojkovic. Stick Van Aanholt in there too. Ronnie Stam (the bloke who signed him won’t play him unless he’s desparate), Jason Scotland, Steve Gohouri, Antonio Amaya, Scott Sinclair, Jordi Gomez (produced it in flashes but not consistantly, Mauro Boselli
Now don’t get me wrong he’s signed some bloody good uns too & he’s signed some players who had shaky starts & have come good but you highlight bruces bad signings & ignore his good uns whilst denying Bobby makes many bad signings. Just as Bruce wasted Latics budget on bad players, so has Martinez – denying that to be frank renders your argument impotentNow you’re going onto a different argument all together.
Dont get me wrong I am happy to argue til I am blue in the face with anyone that tells me Bruce has not on many occasions proved himself to be a rubbish manager but the original point made we got on to was use of the budget available and the effect it has on the next manager.
I have already demonstrated Bruce spent alot more than Martinez did in a previous topic without even touching on wages of which I am confident there would be an astromonical difference between the two.
Bruce left = Martinez had to go about removing crap players on big wages with long contracts.
Martinez leaves (hopefully not) = the next manager has the most competitve premiership squad we have ever had on half the budget with the club breaking possibly announcing a profit.
Give me a manager who puts the long term sustainability of his employers over a manger who is looking to get quick success by rash signings any day of the week!
Lopez made a mistake against Wolves but looks fast and hungry and Sammon has not been given a fair crack of the whip yet in the way di santo has!
Im sure Filmoss was asking why Sammon was not playing ahead of Di Santo last season and now he is saying he is not good enough to be on the bench as fickle as it is im swaying off subject again!!!!
Bruce looked after Bruce’s team.
Martinez puts the clubs best interests into perspective and still manages to acheive relative success!!!!!!It is blatently obvious that Martinez is better value for money as again previously demonstrated.
