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A mark of why I always hated Man Utd, bad winners but even worse losers !!
I must agree – the heinous act of nicking a ketchup dispenser and squirting all that tomato puree and vinegar over 2 or 3 cars should be punished with internment at Guantanamo Bay.
And ALL latics fans past and present are without sin.[/quote]
I am sure you would be saying the same if it was your car that had been vandalised…
What you think of the performances of the team and especially Roberto as of late LMB?
Been quiet recently aint ya , you’re not still using the internet is broke excuse are you?
We’ll have to agree to disagree Salfordhaving someone on the touchline with an ipad could never do a better job than somone out in the middle of the pitch when it comes to refereeing a game of football. They may got some decisions right that the current officials get wrong but there is far more that would harm the game
Even your suggestion of a 5th official communicating from the stands to the ref isn’t as simple as it sounds. If they pick up somet that the ref missed & the players aren’t happy with try then explaining what the hell you’ve awarded & why with up to 22 players screaming at you on top of the crowd. Again it becomes obvious who is making the decisions & your player control disappears.
if there is ever video technology it has to be the ref who refers things to it & if it is then you get your stop/start 2 hour game scenarioFair play Tyldsley
Your obviously more qualified than me on the topic I just hope decisions against us previously even out in tonights game :)
Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story….
Shame the story is rubbish too.
Probably a disgruntled darksider who is begrudged because Roberto’s team is finally coming good…
With all due respect, Robert’s team “finally came good” this time last season too & was back to square one come August!!!! ;)[/quote]
I think the performances recently have been of the highest level since Roberto took over at the club and way above that of last season providing a solid foundation that can be built upon.
Last season alot of the credit has to go to the way N’Zogbia played individually…
We are currently by no means as one dimensional and reliant on a fairly unreliable player to win games.
WELL DONE ROBERTO goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost[/quote]
Roberto & the players deserve as much credit for the recent up turn in form as they deserved any stick that came their way prior to February.
I’d disagree that it can be said they are finally coming good though until it continues over into next season (whatever division they are in). IMO last season’s similar up turn was to do with far more than N’Zogbia. You had a back 4 that became far more robust & in midfield Ben Watson was outstanding at times. Diame’s form returned & Bobby tried out different formations (all with 1 up front of course!!! ;) )[/quote]
Fair point.
I wont be as pedantic to point out that I said they are finally “coming good” rather than “come good”.
(even though I pretty much just did)Still plent of work to be done of course but IMO we are playing the best football under Roberto at the moment.
And this is deffo the most tactically aware team I have seen in my time supporting the latics ;)
Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story….
Shame the story is rubbish too.
Probably a disgruntled darksider who is begrudged because Roberto’s team is finally coming good…
With all due respect, Robert’s team “finally came good” this time last season too & was back to square one come August!!!! ;)[/quote]
I think the performances recently have been of the highest level since Roberto took over at the club and way above that of last season providing a solid foundation that can be built upon.
Last season alot of the credit has to go to the way N’Zogbia played individually…
We are currently by no means as one dimensional and reliant on a fairly unreliable player to win games.
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Salford what pills are you on??? we have for most of the season been shite. We have improved of late but I fail to see how you can keep up with this go Roberto bullshit.[/quote]
I only do that gig to wind cyber turds like you up hinders.
Thanks for the confirmation it is working.
GOOOO ROBERTTOOOOOOO goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost
Whilst I admire your effeorts to co-ordinate this type of thing (even if it isn’t my cup of tea) I really hope you’re unsuccessful in getting this absolute turd of a tune played as the players come out. Please leave it in the music bin in which you found it!!
Totally agree. I think its a scary thought letting this lad pick the music we run out to. If Eds reading this. Please dont.
Are these “meet and greet” things just for the kids? I mean no self respecting adult would attend one of these, would they?
Ballons and Fancy dress? United fans will piss there keks.[/quote]
I did and I am an adult…. maybe not by some peoples standards on here.
Dont get the bashing of the meet and greets at all tbh especially when it has clearly had a positive effect on the players.
Hell it even goes part the way to show that Wigan is not completely rife with moaning pensioners ….. not completely anyway :side:[/quote]
As I said, it’s not my cup of tea at all but if someone wants to do it whether they’re 5 or 55 I couldn’t care less – in all honesty though I doubt that it has made one jot of difference to the players & their performances on the pitch. Yes it would be better than people turning up lobbing poo at em but at the end of the day there’s 2 & a quarter hours between tonight’s meet & greet & kick off. During which time they’ll have done warm ups, received treatment on any knocks, had their team talk from the management, walked out in front of 20 odd thousand people, done the handshake & soaked up the pre-kick off atmosphere. The meet & greet will be so far from their minds at that point. Bobby saying it helps is more likely a PR exercise on his behalf to make the fans who do it feel wanted & encourage more people to join this & at the same time keep the possibility of anti-protests taking place.
Not knocking anyone who does it & it won’t have a negative effect but lets not kid ourselves that it has anythign to do with the recent up turn in formThat song is garbage though & I fail to see how in any way shape or form it will make a blind bit of difference to the atmosphere or players. – hopefully as a former muso Ed Jones will politely decline the request[/quote]
Of course it makes a difference!
If you were there you would have seen the players were obviously very happy to receive a such a welcome ( except Kirkland who looked very unhappy )
Surely this transpires to the thought that when they step onto the pitch that they want to put that extra ounce of effort for the fans who stick by them through thick and thin!!!
Football is all about getting behind your team and your team giving you something to get behind them about …
It was referred to as a catch 22 on here not long ago.
If you dont think the meet and greets help then you must be of the same thought that cheering the players on during the game doesnt help.
Letting someone know you are behind them in numbers will spurr them on its called motivation and if the fans can provide even just a little bit of that for the players then FAIR PLAY
IM BLUE DA BA DE BA DA DIIIII IF I WAS GREEN I WOULD DIEEEE DA BA DE BA DA DIIIII
Have never ref’d a game in my life and I know they have a hard job I am not debating that but if someone stood on the touchline can do a better job with an Ipad in his hand then let em do it.
I’m a great beleiver that you shouldnt fix something that is not broke.
That is obviously not the case here.
But all this slowing the game down for me is utter tosh, it takes a matter of seconds and if you had a 5th official who’s job was to sit there and watch the game on telly surely it would only add another dimension of sight to the referee’s ability to make the correct decision via a quick conversation over the walky talky headset thingy.
Whilst I admire your effeorts to co-ordinate this type of thing (even if it isn’t my cup of tea) I really hope you’re unsuccessful in getting this absolute turd of a tune played as the players come out. Please leave it in the music bin in which you found it!!
Totally agree. I think its a scary thought letting this lad pick the music we run out to. If Eds reading this. Please dont.
Are these “meet and greet” things just for the kids? I mean no self respecting adult would attend one of these, would they?
Ballons and Fancy dress? United fans will piss there keks.[/quote]
I did and I am an adult…. maybe not by some peoples standards on here.
Dont get the bashing of the meet and greets at all tbh especially when it has clearly had a positive effect on the players.
Hell it even goes part the way to show that Wigan is not completely rife with moaning pensioners ….. not completely anyway :side:
In terms of their assessments they will lose less points for saying they saw it than saying that between the 4 of them they missed it completely.
With pantomime diving and wreckless challenges the last thing we need is the people supposed to be upholding the law of the game worrying about their fecking assesment.
Just give the fecking 4th official a big IPAD so he can watch the game on skygo and tell the ref through his walkie talkie what he and the rest of the world can see in a matter of seconds!
Its not rocket science like the FA would have you beleive its just COMMON SENSE![/quote]
With all due respect, everybody who does a job is concerned about how their bosses view their performance & so they’re no different. In this sense what I was inferring was not that the concerns about assessment marks governed their actions on the pitch but that after the game when its obvious they missed it they may have covered their tracks – again in similar circumstances in their job I suspect everybody would do the same
In this instance I actually think the challenge was seen by one of the assistants at the time & (to him) it didn’t look as bad as it did slowed down – i saw the challenge at the time on the telly & it looked somet & nowt. It was only when they slowed it down & showed it from a different angle that it looked shocking.
If that is the case then again the FA’s hands are tiedAs for your suggestion of the 4th official with an ipad – as simple as you may think it is, it would be an absolute disaster. If you have someone watching the game like that pulling the ref up for everything that he’s missed or got wrong it would soon become apparent to the players that the guy out in the middle is getting things wrong & is having his authority overruled by someone else. Once that respect of the official in the middle goes the conduct of the players to each other & towards the ref & his assistants would just plummet & it’d end up a nightmare – I’ve done it myself in a game recently where I let a player off with a warning for telling me to eff off & the rest of a game was a nightmare to control after that no matter how hard I tried to pull it back.
Being a ref is about far more than being able to judge whether player A fouled player B which is why match control accounts for 25% of a referees mark (another 25% is for application of law & the other categories are all between 5 & 10% each).
If you do introduce video technology the only way you could even contemplate doing it would be for the ref to be able to refer things similarly to rugby league. Even then as football is a more flowing & less stop start game you have the problem of at what point the ref pulls play back. Does he stop it straight away & risk pishing off the attacking team if they were in good possession or does he allow play to carry on till the next time it is in touch (which could be some time later) & if there was an offence is play & the clock then dragged back to where it took place
Far from improving the game, for me it would ruin it[/quote]“after the game when its obvious they missed it they may have covered their tracks ”
Why should they have to everyone is aware its a tough job ?
And the covering of their own arse only serves to make the FA’s decisions more difficult.. thus not helping the problem.
“If you have someone watching the game like that pulling the ref up for everything that he’s missed or got wrong it would soon become apparent to the players that the guy out in the middle is getting things wrong & is having his authority overruled by someone else.”
I wasnt talking about every nip and tuck but more basic decisions that cannot be excused e.g. blatant offside / violent behaviour missed by the referee however I do completely agree as if they tried it and that was what was happening surely they should just get rid of the referee as the Ipad holding 4th official would clearly be better at making the decisions thus solving the problem of offending the poor referee who is upset because he is getting pulled up on not doing his job properly.
Failing that hook me up to a tannoy in the stadiums because I was doing a better job of it sitting on my arse at home via a poor stream V Chelsea.
I appreciate this is a touchy subject for you Tyldsley but I think it is time for a change as the decisions that are going against teams can cost them millions of pounds so my sympathy for Johnny ref’s assesment form after the game is non exsistent.
Didnt they used to play this outside the ground ?
Or did I dream that?
Im Blueee da ba dee ba da diiii If I was green I would die da ba dee ba da diii
Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story….
Shame the story is rubbish too.
Probably a disgruntled darksider who is begrudged because Roberto’s team is finally coming good…
With all due respect, Robert’s team “finally came good” this time last season too & was back to square one come August!!!! ;)[/quote]
I think the performances recently have been of the highest level since Roberto took over at the club and way above that of last season providing a solid foundation that can be built upon.
Last season alot of the credit has to go to the way N’Zogbia played individually…
We are currently by no means as one dimensional and reliant on a fairly unreliable player to win games.
WELL DONE ROBERTO goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost goodpost
In terms of their assessments they will lose less points for saying they saw it than saying that between the 4 of them they missed it completely.With pantomime diving and wreckless challenges the last thing we need is the people supposed to be upholding the law of the game worrying about their fecking assesment.
Just give the fecking 4th official a big IPAD so he can watch the game on skygo and tell the ref through his walkie talkie what he and the rest of the world can see in a matter of seconds!
Its not rocket science like the FA would have you beleive its just COMMON SENSE!
