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Alex Ferguson – VERON

Even the better managers get it wrong from time to time.

28m GBP – it cost Manure for and what – SFA :cheer:[/quote]

I think we can allow Sir Alex a few mistakes eh ! ;)

Blind faith ????

So eight years in the Premier League and the FA Cup was just a dream ???[/quote]

You won’t get anywhere with ye Olde window-cleaner either – he knows nowt[/quote]

I merely gave my opinion on RM with a little wind up as my opening gambit, nothing wrong with that ! By blind faith I meant that I have never read anything remotely negative or critical from Ye Olde Oak ! Takes it on the chin and reverts back to the late 70’s early 80’s for perspective every time ! As for the style of play RM has instilled into the team, the foundations are certainly there but the lack of pace to shift the ball through midfield and lack of firepower have been bereft for large parts of his tenure and I just thought that it would have been remedied by now ! The defense also made the same mistakes consistently and despite RM saying that they were naive at times and would learn, they didn’t ! I am thankful for 8 seasons in the Prem and 2 cup finals, one coming to fruition but on the whole it has been a bit of a struggle and a return to the Championship will be greeted with excitement and anticipation from yours truly ! :)[/quote]

Fil, you are quite correct (for once!) when you say I revert back to the 70s and 80s for my perspective (60s as well) and therein lies the difference between us. I am an old fashioned “supporter” who loves my club and my football whilst you are of the newer breed who has bought into the Premier League/Sky franchise and all the tripe that goes with it. When MY team suffers I suffer with them; their pain is my pain. You and your ilk however are consumers who complain like hell when everything doesn’t go your way as if you were buying a second hand car.

I don’t apologise for my 60s, 70s and 80s perspective and don’t forget that I used to sit near you so I am only too aware of your perspective.

i.e leaving early and verbally abusing players when the product is not to your liking. :ohmy:[/quote]

I will say this just one more time…I do not nor have I ever verbally abused any of our players ! Yes I have been known to leave games early but that is my prerogative is it not ! You have either got me mixed up with someone else re shouting abuse or you are just simply a bare faced liar ! I would like to think that it is the former ! :dry:

You should have been more prepared for the drop like us Darksiders who have been saying it for the last 3 months or so ! I will relish the drop and cant wait either !

Only thanks to Man City managing to shift tickets for the lower tier from the corner flag to the halfway line, which were supposed to be for Wigan fans.[/quote]

Yes, the spare seats in those areas were sold by City, but I think that the majority of those were originally corporate/sponsors areas that were never going to be part of Wigans allocation.
Our original allocation was up to the corner flag in the bottom tier and a few sections past the scoreboard on the top tier (21,000 in total).
The fact that we sold all those bar a few, and the rest of the top tier up to the half way line (4-6,000 more) is an astounding achievement.
The official figure will never be fully known, but to see on the day, the amount of people in Latics colours all over Wembley and across the whole of London was heart warming.
A truly remarkable day, and the biggest occasion and acievement the sporting town of Wigan has ever or will ever see.

Wigan Athletic Football Club

FA CUP Winners 2013[/quote]

And the first person I bumped into on leaving Wembley was Horc ! ha ha ha B)

Blind faith ????

So eight years in the Premier League and the FA Cup was just a dream ???[/quote]

You won’t get anywhere with ye Olde window-cleaner either – he knows nowt[/quote]

I merely gave my opinion on RM with a little wind up as my opening gambit, nothing wrong with that ! By blind faith I meant that I have never read anything remotely negative or critical from Ye Olde Oak ! Takes it on the chin and reverts back to the late 70’s early 80’s for perspective every time ! As for the style of play RM has instilled into the team, the foundations are certainly there but the lack of pace to shift the ball through midfield and lack of firepower have been bereft for large parts of his tenure and I just thought that it would have been remedied by now ! The defense also made the same mistakes consistently and despite RM saying that they were naive at times and would learn, they didn’t ! I am thankful for 8 seasons in the Prem and 2 cup finals, one coming to fruition but on the whole it has been a bit of a struggle and a return to the Championship will be greeted with excitement and anticipation from yours truly ! :)

I’M all for that how much would that piss folk off not only in our own town but the country media goodpost goodpost[/quote]

Why our own town? you having a pop again at fans that know their stuff? Our biggest problem is ourselves this season as we consistently give soft goals away. Fringe players are poor as was on show last night.
Most fans on here want us to stay up but but are realistic. We got away with poor defending against West Brom but not last night.[/quote]

Why do the people who hand criticism out after a result know any more than the rest of us?[/quote]

Because they fear the drop !

Well if you were QPR would you want to beat Newcastle and further enhance the chances of them being in the same league as you next season with the record they have of coming straight back up ! I think Newcastle and Norwich will get at least a point a piece over the weekend which would make the trip to The Emirates a hell of a tough cookie !