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In the same way someone should look up the word loyalty maybe go through some sayings like thick and thin and maybe not act like an italian infantry soldier
Is that the same loyalty that blindly backs up Bob when it’s obvious it’s not working???
Hey Salford why don’t you have an avatar pic of one of the current players ? Just asking like ! So you think RM has been successful because we have survived by the skin of our teeth and set new all time lows in his relatively short tenure !
I have actually tried to change my avatar recently albeit to a picture of Steve Bruce with the elephant mans head pasted on but get an error ….
But to answer your question because he is my favourite player….
New all time lows?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :blink: :blink: :blink:
How long have you been supporting Wigan Fil?[/quote]
Tell me when WAFC have gone nearly 7 months without a home win ! Tell me when WAFC lost 9 on the bounce ! Tell me when WAFC went almost 3 seasons with only 1 back to back victory ! Tell me when WAFC paid over £6 million for a striker and then sent him out on loan to the club that we bought him off !! Does it matter how long I have been a fan really ? Ask the other 10,000 plus fans how long have they been fans ![/quote]
It’s all very well coming out with the above statement but I will try to answer your little argument all of the above have been under the current manager
Now does it matter how long have I been a fan well obviously yes it does matter you wasn’t around when the club was on the verge of folding and collecting money in buckets to play players wages ,you wasnt around when there were as little as 2300 in Springfield Park so every fan has an opinion
Going back to the original question as I have said the current manager is responsible for your above rant but in the same breath he has to work under the least financial budget compared to established clubs in this league .I for one didn’t imagine we would have lasted 7 years in the prem but we have it could be 8 we dont knoe just yet[/quote]
In the really dark days we could only dream of 2300 at Springfield Park.
Is it any wonder a wedge has been driven between certain fans with idiotic comments like that !!
This comment refers to all 3 posts !!It’s people like you hijacking any thread that isnt some imbred muppet boo hooing his club arent sh***ing money on players and returning unrealistic results that is driving a wedge between people on this board!
Lightside / Darkside
Realists / Delusionists[/quote]
Realists??? that Bob is a great manager, he’s doing the best with what he has???
Don’t talk shite, we have a squad that IMO would stop up but our problem is our manager :evil:[/quote]
Go on then bright spark enlighten me…..
What manager would you replace Roberto with?
What player/players would start scoring under said manager?[/quote]
Well not having any inside football knowledge I’ve no idea and honestly neither have any of you who would take the job, but if you don’t ask???
And I’m sure with a different formation we could eek out a few more goals but I guess we will never know because Bob only has one way to play.But why worry it works great :ohmy:[/quote]
And so the penny drops just as it did for wolves ….
So an alternative formation is the difference between strikers taking their chances and not taking their chances? Who’s talking shite now hinders?[/quote]
Ok Salford I’ll spell it out for you as your obviously struggling. Just say for instance we played with 2 strikers the law of averages say’s your doubling your chance of a goal, right??? Now I’m not saying a change in system would turn us into world beaters but we may just improve and lets be honest it can’t work worse than the current one. Bob has been trying this system for 3 seasons now and we are still no closer to getting it right. And before you pap on about financial constraints Swansea have spent far less than us and play this system far better.
Is it any wonder a wedge has been driven between certain fans with idiotic comments like that !!
This comment refers to all 3 posts !!It’s people like you hijacking any thread that isnt some imbred muppet boo hooing his club arent sh***ing money on players and returning unrealistic results that is driving a wedge between people on this board!
Lightside / Darkside
Realists / Delusionists[/quote]
Realists??? that Bob is a great manager, he’s doing the best with what he has???
Don’t talk shite, we have a squad that IMO would stop up but our problem is our manager :evil:[/quote]
Go on then bright spark enlighten me…..
What manager would you replace Roberto with?
What player/players would start scoring under said manager?[/quote]
Well not having any inside football knowledge I’ve no idea and honestly neither have any of you who would take the job, but if you don’t ask???
And I’m sure with a different formation we could eek out a few more goals but I guess we will never know because Bob only has one way to play.But why worry it works great :ohmy:
Until Gomez roles his sleaves up and puts in a shift which is never he would never play for me. He does keep posession but does feck all with it square or backwards passing is not what we need, IMO we looked far better when he went off.
Nothing like a sweeping generalistion, is there?
For example, it takes a certain type of talent to square or back pass a ball into the opposition net four times a season.
Still, if it’s a witch hunt you want.[/quote]
The guy takes penalties!!! I can’t believe you through that back at me, desperation me thinks ;)[/quote]
He does. And he has scored two of them. Leaving just two goals scored via backwards/square passing. So I was half-right and can back it up with facts, which you can’t.
Listen, I know Jordi Gomez is not good enough for a decent Premier League team but as Martinez wants someome to specifcially play that role, he is as good as, if not better than, anyone else in the squad at doing it.[/quote]
Griff I’m sorry but with the quality of team we have we cannot carry anyone and when we don’t have the ball Gomez contributes feck all.[/quote]
Thought we had a team capable of staying up in your opinion? Surely a team capable of competing in the best league in the world doesn’t need its forwards defending ???[/quote]
We have if every player gives 100% all 11 not just 10 which is what happens everytime Gomez plays.
Until Gomez roles his sleaves up and puts in a shift which is never he would never play for me. He does keep posession but does feck all with it square or backwards passing is not what we need, IMO we looked far better when he went off.
Nothing like a sweeping generalistion, is there?
For example, it takes a certain type of talent to square or back pass a ball into the opposition net four times a season.
Still, if it’s a witch hunt you want.[/quote]
The guy takes penalties!!! I can’t believe you through that back at me, desperation me thinks ;)[/quote]
He does. And he has scored two of them. Leaving just two goals scored via backwards/square passing. So I was half-right and can back it up with facts, which you can’t.
Listen, I know Jordi Gomez is not good enough for a decent Premier League team but as Martinez wants someome to specifcially play that role, he is as good as, if not better than, anyone else in the squad at doing it.[/quote]
Griff I’m sorry but with the quality of team we have we cannot carry anyone and when we don’t have the ball Gomez contributes feck all.
Is it any wonder a wedge has been driven between certain fans with idiotic comments like that !!
This comment refers to all 3 posts !!It’s people like you hijacking any thread that isnt some imbred muppet boo hooing his club arent sh***ing money on players and returning unrealistic results that is driving a wedge between people on this board!
Lightside / Darkside
Realists / Delusionists[/quote]
Realists??? that Bob is a great manager, he’s doing the best with what he has???
Don’t talk shite, we have a squad that IMO would stop up but our problem is our manager :evil:
Until Gomez roles his sleaves up and puts in a shift which is never he would never play for me. He does keep posession but does feck all with it square or backwards passing is not what we need, IMO we looked far better when he went off.
Nothing like a sweeping generalistion, is there?
For example, it takes a certain type of talent to square or back pass a ball into the opposition net four times a season.
Still, if it’s a witch hunt you want.[/quote]
The guy takes penalties!!! I can’t believe you through that back at me, desperation me thinks ;)
Maloney in for McCarthy
Diame for McArthur
Stam for BoyceThose 3 changes would probably see us safe. Knowing Martinez though he will probably bring in Kirkland,Thomas and Gohouri.
Would like to see Crusat involved somewhere too. Maybe a second half player.
On another note. Dicko looks like a real handful of a player at Blackpool. If we go down then Blackpool could have inadvertently got our two Championship strikers ready for us.
bloody hell yosser mate,gomez gets your backing ;)[/quote]
Until Gomez roles his sleaves up and puts in a shift which is never he would never play for me. He does keep posession but does feck all with it square or backwards passing is not what we need, IMO we looked far better when he went off.
SLAPHEAD :woohoo:
You smell of poo[/quote]
WTF Standish??? have to admit it made me chuckle goodpost goodpost goodpost
Why he plays gomez is beyond me, he subs him every time and it cant be that he his tired, but a good performance from the tics, end to end game goodpost
Clearly, this is the know-nowts thread. First half, anything of note we did in the last third came from
Gomez. He had a dodgy 10 minutes second half before he was subbed. He probably knew he was being hooked, to be fair.Admittedly, Maloney was better but I wondered how long it would be before Gomez copped a load of flack for today. Totally undeserved.[/quote]
It’s about opinions and in mine he is simply not good enough and does not give enough to the team to warrant a place.
Why he plays gomez is beyond me, he subs him every time and it cant be that he his tired, but a good performance from the tics, end to end game goodpostHow can he be tired??? he strolls around while the game goes on aroumd him.
You’re one miserable twat Hindley, and you have the nerve to tell me I don’t know how to support my club???
Who you calling a twat you fucking knobhead do you not think we should have won??? and do you think a point is enough??? Prick.[/quote]
Like I’m going to respond to childish drivel like that. You and LMB should share a booster seat, you pair of children.
For what it’s worth a point is more than I thought we’d get and as we seem to have found a second-gear Gomez in Maloney, I’ll take that today.
Swansea beating City puts last week’s result into a bit of perspective now, as well.[/quote]
I still think we deserved all 3 points so IMO it’s 2 points lost and also IMO 1 point in our position is not good enough. I’m not sure what your gripe is with my original post, oh and before you call people childish remember who called who a twat ;)[/quote]
Do you lot ever read before you launch into your keyboards?
Yes, with such an improved performance we could and should have had 3 points but as I was expecting jack, I’ll take a draw.
And you know my twat comment was tongue in cheek – even the wife wouldn’t have got upset at that – so there was hardly any reason for the venom in your reply.
Perhaps I should have added a winky smiley as I forgot most of you need pictures rather than words. ;) :) ;( :( :)[/quote]
May be a winky would have made it better
