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I thought that those two plastic bags delivered some great wing play today – bet they get rotated though.
There, do you feel better now, child. Those bold letters must have really been clawing at the back of your throat.
You see, boy, I can read – it was this bit “when will you lot ever get it” that presented itself against more than just Donny.
Oh! also his comment was in response to LMB’s remark as well – so are you saying that you and LMB are one and the same because there was really no need for you to respond as I’m sure LMB (cough) could fight his own battles.
There is something strange about you, child. You really do need to grow up – you appear to be really highly strung at the moment. You seem to think that this is a personal playground that only you are allowed in and to make the rules – you see your ‘wind ups’ as funny, the rest just see you for the lonely friendless person you project on here. If you are serious about Wigan Athletic then write some good positive stuff here instead of your personal quest to piss everybody off (I know you can because I’ve read some of it).
Now if you are a good boy, you never know, Santa might bring you a nice new brush for Christmas
Thanks grandad[/quote]
There now, knowing your place is a nice place to start. Keep it up, there’s a good boy.
When will you lot ever get it?!
I reserve my real opinions and discussions for people who matter; it’s far more fun to come on here and just wind up people who clearly have no idea they are being wound up.
Apart from Horc’s “anybody on here can manage Wigan” notion – that is genuinely the most stupid, serious thing I have ever seen posted in all my time on here.
Fabulous analysis of the “England Game Tonight” – you should take up writing for a living (Henry Winter will be shitting himself).[/quote]
Can’t you read, Grandad?
I reserve my real opinions and discussions for people who matter
The comment was directed at Donny’s once-again misguided belief that only I am allowed an opinion. Somebody disagreeing with your opinion (however they choose to express it) is not the same thing as saying you can’t have one.[/quote]
There, do you feel better now, child. Those bold letters must have really been clawing at the back of your throat.
You see, boy, I can read – it was this bit “when will you lot ever get it” that presented itself against more than just Donny.
Oh! also his comment was in response to LMB’s remark as well – so are you saying that you and LMB are one and the same because there was really no need for you to respond as I’m sure LMB (cough) could fight his own battles.
There is something strange about you, child. You really do need to grow up – you appear to be really highly strung at the moment. You seem to think that this is a personal playground that only you are allowed in and to make the rules – you see your ‘wind ups’ as funny, the rest just see you for the lonely friendless person you project on here. If you are serious about Wigan Athletic then write some good positive stuff here instead of your personal quest to piss everybody off (I know you can because I’ve read some of it).
Now if you are a good boy, you never know, Santa might bring you a nice new brush for Christmas
When will you lot ever get it?!I reserve my real opinions and discussions for people who matter; it’s far more fun to come on here and just wind up people who clearly have no idea they are being wound up.
Apart from Horc’s “anybody on here can manage Wigan” notion – that is genuinely the most stupid, serious thing I have ever seen posted in all my time on here.
Fabulous analysis of the “England Game Tonight” – you should take up writing for a living (Henry Winter will be shitting himself).
Only watched the first half of the San Marino game (by choice) – was totally underwhelmed by tonight’s performance and that miss by Rooney in the 92nd minute sums him up really. Captain? My arse.
I really fear for this team – it’s a bit like watching Bolton compete in the Champions League. I sincerely hope you get your 55 quids worth LL4E
MY ONLY GRIPE IS THAT OUR MANAGER IS MEDDLING WITH THE TEAM FAR TOO MUCH. THE TEAM HAS PLAYED REALLY WELL AND WON, OR HAS PLAYED REALLY WELL AND DRAWN OR LOST WHEN THEY DIDN’T DESERVE TO LOSE, SO MY MESSAGE TO ROSLER IS, “DON’T TRY AND FIX THINGS THAT AREN’T BROKEN, OR YOU’LL SPOIL THEM”.I’ll challenge anyone to predict with confidence what our team will look like against Brentford. I’ll even challenge anyone to predict 6 of the outfield players who will play against Brentford.
We are almost a quarter way through the season, these questions should be easy to answer. I bet the fans of teams like Forrest, Norwich, Derby, Watford, Ipswich, Boro etc can accurately answer these questions without blinking.Lets hope we kick start the season with 6 points in the next 2 games and lets also hope that if we do beat Brentford, he plays the same team, if available, against Millwall. :cheer:
I don’t think that anyone who follows the comments on this forum will doubt that you are indeed a long standing and loyal supporter of the club. However, it is still only down to opinion as to how the team and club are being managed.
I am not saying this is you, but there are a lot of people here (and on other forums) who take out a team of youngsters/pub team/amateur enthusiasts on a Sunday morning and then after having honed their skills on Championship Manager think that they understand the complete complex mechanics of running a professional football team worth (real) millions of pounds. It can’t happen. Yes, there are times when decisions are taken and questioned but can that not be down to the ‘other’ manager out thinking/tactically our game plan – because this works both ways; by example the way we took apart Birmingham was great but the fans/press/keyboard warriors in the Midlands must have been apoplectic with anger as to how they got it so wrong.
All I am saying is that we are in transition, players still need to find their levels, the manager still needs to be sure of competency, we are only in October, Mr Whelan (quite rightly) still sees everyone on a regular basis as part of his management routine, we are improving and we will make at least the play-offs this season – and I believe that.
Please step away from the X-Box
I get your point, but how long does a transitional period take and do you ever get to the goal of winning games on a regular basis, if you are constantly changing the team, formation etc?.I think that this has already been addressed, however, when you are managing assets as complicated and as expensive as this you do not rush things just to appease the crowd
Apart from a core of about 3 players, the rest don’t know if they are playing from week to week, even if they play well when selected.
If I am performing well in my job, I would be totally miffed if my boss says well done mate, done the business there, but I’m bringing Fred Bloggs in next week in your place, take a break sunshine.I think you are grossly understating the ‘core’, but I suppose that fits in with your rant. Further, there are jobs out there (outside of football) where specialists and core personnel are rested/changed/rotated because of the type of work carried out – not everyone works for Heinz/a garage/a production line
Rosler has had long enough to sort his team and formation out, How can you know that if you say he still needs time, then what a fekin idiot for playing the likes of Chow, Jennings, Holt even Tavernier in the pre-season friendlies when he had no intention of them featuring in the starting 11. How is he supposed to know how his players/team are going to perform if he isn’t going to play them pre-season, and how do you know he did not have any intention of featuring them
The mentality of some of the players could be, fek it if I play well I’ll still get dropped, why bother. [yes even on their massive pay packets].Rubbish – you have no idea what the players are thinking There has been unrest in the dressing room, even Whelan had to go in before the Forrest game and give um a pep talk, jeesh! :blink: Did you find out about this ‘unrest’ from your friends, mates aunty who cleans the offices of the guy who delivers the pies? – also it is well documented that Mr Whelan often comes into the dressing room – it’s a sign of good management and a reflection of the excellent lines of communication shared from the top, through the manager to the playing and support staff
IMO, we need to get promoted this season, the team is slowly but surely becoming a distant memory from the one that kept us in the prem for all those years.
I can only see us going down the same route as Leeds, Forrest, Portsmouth etcYou are indeed entitled to your opinionOK Whelan balances the books and what a magnificent job he’s done, but it’s no good if the manager doesn’t get the best from his squad, no-one will dispute that he is categorically not getting the best from this squad at the moment. Hmmmmm!
If we don’t get up this season, the likes of Maloney, Ramis, McLean, McManaman will probably want to move on and so the memories of the premier league will go fainter and fainter.And how do you think we managed to achieve promotion waybackintheday eh? Players move on and fresh ones come in – we have done it once and we can do it again – and I believe that
I for one didn’t want us to get relegated from the prem, some on here hoped we would, i wonder what they are thinking now?. :huh:
What’s the point of being the most affluent club and having the best training facilities, in League two.League two? – now you are just being plain daftSo IMO he does need to start winning games, the honeymoon period is over, we have the best squad in this division, even other managers recognise that fact, so what is going wrong? Only Uwe and his players can answer that.
Look, this is a long season (and it’s only October). Stand back, take a deep breath and stop listening to the doom and gloomers in the pub who wouldn’t know a game of football if one broke out in their back yard. Our team and our manager need our continued support and we need to keep showing it – Confidence breeds success.
Agreed the changes were necessary but why the formation change, just go like for like. Cowie on the right?
According to the tinkerman fortune had a good game at Bournemouth and great today so why play delort against forest.
Stability brings understanding but I guess I’m just old school and this is modern football…doesn’t mean it’s right though?Yes – but backintheday we used to play with full backs, half backs, wingers, inside forwards and centre forwards. Oh! and shirts were numbered 1 to 11.
You are right, it is the modern game; but we have to trust that the manager has done his homework and set out a team (and formation) to counter the opposition and if that means “tinkering” as some people call it (I prefer calling it tactics) then so be it.
It’s good to have this banter on the football boards and in the pub, however, if any of us were to be let loose with the team selection and formation on the day – then Heaven bloody help us.[/quote]
Yeah Mick McCarthy couldn’t believe his luck when he saw the formation and tactics that were put into use against his side eh! ;) Faux pas springs to mind for that one ![/quote]
Indeed Fil, however, I never said he gets it right all the time – but I venture he would get it right more times than any of us could.
In Uve’s defence, it didn’t matter how we set ourselves out that day as McCarthy set his side out with his usual remit to kick seven barrels of shit out of our main players. I’ve never rated him as a tactical ‘genius’ just a thick stuck-in-the-mud thug who’s managerial CV took him from his National Team to Ipswich (via Wolves) – hardly earth shattering. Further, I think he is arrogant enough to make that sort of comment after having beaten us that night (I’m not saying we set the world alight that game, but he could have said anything to look good in the Ipswich Press and belittle us).
I just seem to think that it is a little unfair that we could go 20 games unbeaten then have the ‘Ipswich Game’ and some people on here (and other forums to be fair) become world class managers and tacticians and slag him off and make childish playground names up.
Like I said earlier in another thread – I’ll save my critique until the 2nd May 2015 when I’ve had the whole season to look back on.
Agreed the changes were necessary but why the formation change, just go like for like. Cowie on the right?
According to the tinkerman fortune had a good game at Bournemouth and great today so why play delort against forest.
Stability brings understanding but I guess I’m just old school and this is modern football…doesn’t mean it’s right though?Yes – but backintheday we used to play with full backs, half backs, wingers, inside forwards and centre forwards. Oh! and shirts were numbered 1 to 11.
You are right, it is the modern game; but we have to trust that the manager has done his homework and set out a team (and formation) to counter the opposition and if that means “tinkering” as some people call it (I prefer calling it tactics) then so be it.
It’s good to have this banter on the football boards and in the pub, however, if any of us were to be let loose with the team selection and formation on the day – then Heaven bloody help us.
Me? – I’m not bothered at all, and I can’t see me being bothered about it during the season. However, the ‘Romantic’ in me notices that we have Brentford away on the 2nd May 2015 and would be delighted if the result of that match was to become the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs. Now that would be exciting.
Now if you want to have a good read with a balanced outlook, then have a look at Neillrimmersperms’ atricle called “Rosler Out” – picked it up on Newsnow. No! this lad is not ‘doin’ my daughter nor is he related – I just found it refreshing in light of the increasing number of self-harmers appearing everywhere
Driving home from Orrell through Pem earlier and my car is a right mess. Just past the Vital Pub there were idiots throwing themselves under the car (blood everywhere) then further on just under the Wiganer.net Arms load of kids throwing themselves off buildings right onto my bleedin roof.
It looks like World War Z out there – anybody any idea what all the commotion is about?
I was going to offer my car, as a lift, to any player who didn’t want to play for us anymore or felt they were above the club but I will have to pass on that now. However, if any of you know of anyone wanting to go to Scotland then I will happily supply the coach fare.
From day one I have always had my doubts about Rosler. If you shout often and loud enough eventually no one listens , like you ignore your child when they have a mad screaming tantrum. His tactics have only ever consisted of “Work your stones off and run yourself into the ground” and that’s about it.
That squad is the best in the division and yet we are still so easy to beat. It’s time for him to go , tactically he is clueless. The Ipswich game was proof of that .Who says so?
I can’t stand primadonnas – take the money week in week out and then spit their dummies out when not selected. Tell them all to feckin grow up, it’s not Uve losing the dressing room its the bloody ‘big girls blouses’ not doing as they are paid. Bleedin Hell – Fergusson, Clough, Paisley, Stein, Busby et al would not have stood for this childish behaviour they would have given them a roasting. Too much cotton wool, touchy feely going on at the moment – the players need to realise that they are paid servants to the club and should act accordingly or feck off.
This post is not about lumping all our recent woes at the feet off the strikers as I know our problems are all over the park but it’s just that I cant understand why we sign two foreign forwards when surely in our leagues there are ones who look more capable of handling the rough/tumble of the championship.Last season I was hoping we made approaches for Nahki Wells or Lewis Grabban and maybe we did .The likes of Jerome,Osombalonga,were possibly priced out but there must be lads in the lower leagues worthy of a punt because for me Delort(and I do hope he proves me massively wrong) isn’t up to it and Riera looks a better option albeit the winter months will test that.Fortune may well have been OK yesterday but ultimately does not hit the net.Holt looked a lot leaner and I believe he did well yesterday so what did he do to be totally frozen out by the manager? And why did Mr Whelan not encourage a truce and maybe get some return on his investment ?I think you raise an important point here MR Brownbill. In other posts everyone (well almost) has thrown the the blame for our woes firmly at the feet of Uve, now then – and this is radical thought – how about our players are just not up to it with the competition around us (not saying we are shit, just not good enough). A few people on here, and in the ground, have remarked that we have one of the best teams in the league on paper. But that’s just it, it is only us who seem to think so – is it proving that ‘on paper’ is the best place to earn your spurs, because it’s not happening on the field.
I concede that the manager does have a big part in this with his team selections, but the lads have to cut the mustard when they are out there too.
Just a thought like
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