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Sorry Malc but I see it different. When Cowie came on yesterday the whole pace of our game picked up. We started to make significant inroads down the right and it was down to Cowie. Even my mate said we looked a different team when Cowie came on and he is the biggest pessimist ever.
If Maloney is not fit then he shouldn’t be on the field. Last week at Sheff Weds Malky praised him for offering to sit on the bench despite being ill, that would have been bad management if he had allowed him to do that.
Body language says it all really, if Gomez had put his head down like Maloney did yesterday he would have been slated.
I agree that the subs were a bit strange yesterday with us having no centre forward on the field at one point, whilst being 1-0 down with 15 mins to go. :woohoo:
Sentiments have to go out the window I’m afraid, we only want players on the field who are fully fit and giving 110%, Don Cowie IMHO fits that bill.
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What a journey!snigger
That’s an s off being racist, watch out or the PC brigade will be after you. :woohoo:
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What a journey!Cowie did more in 5 minutes than Maloney did in 45. I’ve been Maloney’s biggest fan for the past 3-4 years, but he has lost his spark at club level. Play for Scotland, world beater, play for Wigan crock of shyte. When he lost the ball today his attitude was woeful, head down and saunter back, I felt sorry for McCann and Watson who carried Maloney for the time he spent on the field, get shut and get some money for him. :angry:
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What a journey!same tripe…..What is it with this 1 up front policy.After saying that the midfield were crap.Another blank for Fortune albeit not totally his fault but will he ever create a goal out of nothing ?.I can only assume Malky is waiting for the window to shake things up.Are we too god to drop..? are we bollock’s….going to be a hard winter.Just the word humbug missing out of that post Ebeneezer. :P
PS I agree with yer. :ohmy:
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What a journey!I don’t think so and your comparisons is a load of tripe. I’ll go and ask my mum who is 84, to turn on my PC and do a bit of net surfing, she’ll not get past settling onto my computer chair. She has had a mobile phone that I bought her 10 years ago and she has not used it once, even though I show her what to do every time I see her.
We are still in the generation whereby our parents and grandparents are stuck in their old ways, Whelan is one of them. Until that generation has died off, we will still hear those comments / phrases that have been common talk for the majority of their lives. Until they have all died off, we will still hear “I’m not going to that blackie doctor, I cant hear what he says” , “What we having for tea a chink or an Indian”, “wheres mi mum gone dad?, shes run off with a black man”.
Me and you will not say any of those things, especially in public, because we know it is seen as racist. Do I think our parents / grandparents are racist? No I don’t, its their culture and they don’t see that these phrases may offend anyone.
That’s the point in question and is what Dave Whelan is trying to explain to the media and is ruffling some feathers up.
I wish all these people who have spent the last few weeks chasing Whelan like a pack of wolves, would put their energy to better use and sift out all the drug dealers and pedophiles FFS. :angry:
You’ve just contradicted your first post!
‘Me and you will not say any of those things, especially in public, because we know it is seen as racist.’
Correct! It is seen as racist, so Mr Whelan should not say it!
If the whole nation was of his generation, then fair enough. Nobody would bat and eyelid.
We know it’s racist, so does most of the country. Therefore, DW, who is in the public eye, should not say it![/quote]
No I’m not contradicting myself, the point I made is that it can be seen by others as racist, I, Dave Whelan and the majority of people in Wigan over 50, don’t see it as that and can tolerate things being said in our own social gatherings. Would we expect to hear it in the public domain?,probably not, but my grandparents would.
My kids and grand kids are being brought up to a whole new culture than me and my parents/ grandparents. It’s called moving generations and will continue to evolve long when we have gone.
I am now convinced you are thick as pig shyte. Do you really think back in the stone age that one day all the men stopped dragging their wives around by their hair? It probably took several hundreds of years to change that culture and I bet there was the period whereby 90% were holding hands and the other 10% were dragging wives around by their hair thinking it was alright.
I don’t condone what DW has said in the glare of the media, I just don’t think he should be hung drawn and quartered by the media, the FA and our own fucking supporters. Lets all be grown up about this and put it into perspective FFS. :angry:
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What a journey!Good old Dave!, He has said Fek Aw again and is not bowing down to the PC brigade.
I hope he sticks to is guns and comtinues to tell the world about our culture, North West working man’s culture,instead of sucumbing to the media lynch mob.
He is honest as the day is long and dare I say it, calls a spade a spade. [reference to the digging implement rather than anything else that the media wants to interpret]
I feel proud to be associated with Wigan Athletic, I feel proud and fortunate to have Dave Whelan as our chairman.He is not a racist and nor am I for supporting him. :angry:
You have posted this without a hint of sarcasm?
He’s said he used to call Chinese people Chingalings – and so did everyone in Wigan.
It used to be okay to drag a woman by the hair into your cave. It used to be okay to drive oxen through the streets. It used to be okay to shoot a Welshman with a bow and arrow if sighted within the walls of Chester. It used to be okay to crap in a chamber-pot and throw it out of your window. It used to be okay to drive your car after a skin-full of ale. It used to be okay to smoke on a bus.
I don’t think for a minute he’s a racist, and I’m not saying I don’t think we live in an overly PC society, but you simply do not say things like that to the national press these days. Times have changed.
With each interview he’s making Wigan look like the insular, stuck-twenty-years-behind-the-rest-of-the-country town that people make jokes about. (If you live / work / socialise outside the borough, you’ll understand this)
It’s embarrassing.[/quote]
I don’t think so and your comparisons is a load of tripe. I’ll go and ask my mum who is 84, to turn on my PC and do a bit of net surfing, she’ll not get past settling onto my computer chair. She has had a mobile phone that I bought her 10 years ago and she has not used it once, even though I show her what to do every time I see her.
We are still in the generation whereby our parents and grandparents are stuck in their old ways, Whelan is one of them. Until that generation has died off, we will still hear those comments / phrases that have been common talk for the majority of their lives. Until they have all died off, we will still hear “I’m not going to that blackie doctor, I cant hear what he says” , “What we having for tea a chink or an Indian”, “wheres mi mum gone dad?, shes run off with a black man”.
Me and you will not say any of those things, especially in public, because we know it is seen as racist. Do I think our parents / grandparents are racist? No I don’t, its their culture and they don’t see that these phrases may offend anyone.
That’s the point in question and is what Dave Whelan is trying to explain to the media and is ruffling some feathers up.
I wish all these people who have spent the last few weeks chasing Whelan like a pack of wolves, would put their energy to better use and sift out all the drug dealers and pedophiles FFS. :angry:
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What a journey!Good old Dave!, He has said Fek Aw again and is not bowing down to the PC brigade.
I hope he sticks to is guns and comtinues to tell the world about our culture, North West working man’s culture,instead of sucumbing to the media lynch mob.
He is honest as the day is long and dare I say it, calls a spade a spade. [reference to the digging implement rather than anything else that the media wants to interpret]
I feel proud to be associated with Wigan Athletic, I feel proud and fortunate to have Dave Whelan as our chairman.He is not a racist and nor am I for supporting him. :angry:
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What a journey!So the real problem is getting caught, rather than the nastiness of the text contents. Somebody shafted Malky and and I bet it made thousands of people associated with various sporting teams or users of company phones, check their mobiles and delete loads of joke threads.
Was watching that Rosemary West documentary the other day and thought to myself, how many other murdered people lay buried in back gardens, woodland areas, moors etc. and the murderers are walking around like nothing has happened. You can go on a website and look at all the missing persons database, it is humungous, they cant all have changed their identity, or decided to move abroad and start a new life.
Similar thing but on a bigger scale. :woohoo:
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What a journey!Nah, he’s not above criticism. He was predictable and the odd time he beat his man, he ran it out.I cant believe that summary, did you actually watch that game? How many times did Callum beat that defender, knock a decent ball in only to find nobody at the end of it. Forshaw was millimeters away from tapping in on one occasion.
That Sheff Wednesday left full back had a mare and looked in tears at one point.Yes Macca ran it out on two occasions, but provided some really good balls into the box, skinning the poor little left back time and time again, shaving the post in the last 10 mins.
We were the better team today, we looked quality but once again lacked that killer instinct. If we were shyte I’d hold my hands up but we are not. Give Malky a few more weeks and I’m sure we will turn the corner. Nobody wants this league, just look at the table, OK we are second bottom, but we are not out of reach from the mid table teams.
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What a journey!Our best player by a country mile today was Fortune. He played the lone striker role superb holding it up, bringing other players in, but he was let down so bad by the link up play.
I think we are getting there, but a few tweeks are needed. McCann and Watson are nailed on, so is Carson, Taylor, the two Macs, Ramis if fit and Maloney when over his illness. Forshaw is going through a torrid time and I hate to say it, so is Boycie. He got beat so many times today by a poor, but fast winger which is not him.
I would look to play someone at the side of Fortune, maybe Delort or Waghorn and we will shoot up this league.
Cant believe we lost that game today and the Sheff wed fans couldn’t believe they had won it.
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What a journey!Personally I have a lot of respect for Clarke Carlisle and Jason Roberts who work tirelessly to rid football and society of Racism and discrimination in general and funnily enough equal respect with many who have got on to the anti- Whelan bandwagon. There is no room in society for racism, sexism, homophobia and discrimination against sexual orientation, disability or religion. Problem is the protesters are always seen as the loudest voice and common sense seems to get lost along the way. It is easy to shout, but everyone who shouts out their protestations should look at themselves first and they will find that none of us are totally squeaky clean.
Keep up the good work Clarke and Jason but keep it balanced and somewhere mention the fine work Latics and Whelan have done to become North West community club of the year and equally the fine work Latics and Whelan have done for the Kick it Out campaign.Agree with that totally, but I still feel Carlisle and others were too quick to jump in. Dave Whelan is not a racist, he came out with two phrases that he honestly thought were common chat in our part of the country and IMHO it is.
He apologised immediately he was told that the phrases offended certain sections of the population.
That should have been it, i was very emotional by the reception Dave Whelan got from the fans last week and clapped along with them. Does that make me and thousand others racists?Good luck to the people like Carlisle who are trying to address the issue of racism, as you say they are doing a great job. However, there is no need whatsoever to suggest that Dave Whelan is anything but a real gentleman,with no hidden agenda on these sensitive issues.
I liken it to the many media, fans etc of other clubs, who constantly babble on about us being a club not worthy of fighting for major honours, standing toe to to with the likes of Man U and Chelsea. It’s ignorance or lack of understanding, about our club, its history and what a massive achievement its been for us.
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What a journey!It seems he had a spat with our very own Jason Roberts over the kick it out campaign.
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What a journey!Hussssssh!!. That buffoon paid us about £6m for a forward who has spent less than 4 mins on the field since he arrived at Goodison. :lol:
Maloney is out of contract in the summer and is the wrong side of 30. :blink:
According to some on here, he didn’t try one iota under Rosler, but bust a gut for Scotland. If that is true, lets get a million dabs for him and move on.
He will spend more time bench warming, than David Fairclough ever did for Liverpool. Lack of game time will then see him being overlooked by Strachan. You just know that will happen if he goes. Having said all that, if he signs a 2 or 3 year deal with us, I’ll be quite happy with that. :)
So, he’s the wrong side of 30 but it’s OK for him to sign a 3 year deal with us?[/quote]
Exactly, he’s wrong side of 30 for somebody to spend money on a transfer fee for him but there will be no transfer fee if we extend his contract. Fuck me these thick wannabe authors.
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What a journey!Hussssssh!!. That buffoon paid us about £6m for a forward who has spent less than 4 mins on the field since he arrived at Goodison. :lol:
Maloney is out of contract in the summer and is the wrong side of 30. :blink:
According to some on here, he didn’t try one iota under Rosler, but bust a gut for Scotland. If that is true, lets get a million dabs for him and move on.
He will spend more time bench warming, than David Fairclough ever did for Liverpool. Lack of game time will then see him being overlooked by Strachan. You just know that will happen if he goes. Having said all that, if he signs a 2 or 3 year deal with us, I’ll be quite happy with that. :)
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What a journey!
