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De Zeuww
Larry Lloyd
Archie Gemmill
Mark Hilditch
Mark LeonardI wouldn’t have messed with Stan the man McEwan either. And he had the hardest shot ever as well.
Special subcategory – hardest keeper – Chris Kirkland (joking…..). Probably John Filan….
Joe Hinnigan was decent.
Best ever right back, forget Chimbonda, Melchiot, Boycey et al. Look no further than dangerous Dave Fretwell.
I’ve always thought Martinez talks the worst sort of management/psychobabble. I too watched his MOTD interview (sober) and couldn’t work out what he was trying to say, or his reasons for saying them.
Problem is, he’s probably the same in the dressing room. God knows whether the players have any idea of whats expected of them.
My guess would be that amongst the match attending fans the vote would be well in Bob’s favour.
Not sure I agree with you there. There’s a difference between supporting someone because he’s the manager of your club, as we all do, and actually wanting him there and enjoying his football.
My guess is that those in the latter camp are 50:50 of total matchday support at best. If you add in all the other more casual fans who have clearly been driven away by his negative, dull and predictable football (look at the gates this season), there would be a majority against.
Put another way, if you were offered Martinez or Hodgson as manager of our club through to the end of this season and beyond, who would you take?
I’m afraid you don’t get a vote, though ;)If it was one supporter one vote, I wonder if Martinez would still be manager.
My guess would be touch and go.
So, he’s 23 and only managed 26 first team appearences. Doesn’t bode too well for me.
Others on here have commented about the lack of a bond with the current team – its too many signings like this that contribute to that.
In general, I’d rather see some evidence of young lads being brought through the system than relying on buys like this.
I hope he’s decent though. Is that positive enough?
It’s not a matter of being positive – I haven’t got a clue if he’s any good – it’s a matter of not posting ill-informed cr@p just for the sake of it.
There is nigh-on no academy to bring young lads through. The young lads who play in the reserves are mostly picked up after being released from other clubs.
A 23 year old who is signed from the only club he’s ever played for cannot constitute a journeyman. Or is it more a case of him being foreign eh, Adolf?[/quote]
Great how you can question the ability of someone who at 23 has basically missed the boat and be called a racist. In the last three years Deportivo have finished mid table in the Spanish top division. And he couldn’t regularly get in their side. He is a fringe player in a mid table side. Its like buying a 23 yr old squad player from Sunderland. Not that inspiring eh?
We’ve already got 5 half decent centre halves – Caldwell brothers, Gohouri, Alcaraz and Boyce. On the face of it, I can’t see what this guy would add. I’d love to be proved wrong though.
On the question of who I would get instead, given the strength in numbers terms at centre half, and our lack of a decent youth system – still the weakest aspect of our club – I’d like to see us buy the best 18/19 year old centre half in the Championship/Lg 1/2 and gradually bring him through, the attraction from his point of view being the chance of regular 1st team Premiership football. Sorry if that makes me a racist rather than someone interested in the long term develolpment of our squad and our club.
Maybe he could concentrate on bringing more young lads through rather than buying the likes of this guy.
So you’d chance it on a young inexperienced lad rather than a 23 year old who’s been training with the club since the summer, cost nothing to sign, and who has already had twenty-odd appearances for Deportivo?
Okay then, some questions:
Which young lads do you suggest are good enough to be brought in?
How do you become a journeyman at 23, having only played for one club?
How do you know nobody else wanted him – considering he was still technically a Deportivo player until last week?
What other foreign journeymen are you referring to?
Do you post negative comments just for the sake of it?[/quote]
So, he’s 23 and only managed 26 first team appearences. Doesn’t bode too well for me.
Others on here have commented about the lack of a bond with the current team – its too many signings like this that contribute to that.
In general, I’d rather see some evidence of young lads being brought through the system than relying on buys like this.
I hope he’s decent though. Is that positive enough?
So we’re buying another foreign journeyman who noone else wants -0 he’s been a free agent since the summer
I won’t hold my breath.
You’re right. We should be looking at players that everyone wants, as I’m sure they’d choose Wigan.
Maicon or Dani Alves anyone?[/quote]
Maybe he could concentrate on bringing more young lads through rather than buying the likes of this guy.
Also as he’s very right footed, shouldn’t really be played on the left as it slows the attacks down while he cuts in all the time.
Oh right yeah, because him being on the left when he put that cross in for Hugo didnt work at all. :? [/quote]
Yes, it works sometimes, but in the main it slows the attacks down and doesn’t stretch, or get behind, the opposition defence – one of the reasons Zog gets so few assists is he’s always cutting in from the right on his left, across the central midfielders, closing off all the space. Yes, he’ll get the odd goal like this, as against Arsenal last season, but he won’t set many up.
I see the right footer on left and left footer on right as a fundamentally defensive tactic to close the space, and one of the reasons we’re one of the lowest scoring teams in all the divisions. I understand the theory but I find it dull.
Also as he’s very right footed, shouldn’t really be played on the left as it slows the attacks down while he cuts in all the time.
So we’re buying another foreign journeyman who noone else wants -0 he’s been a free agent since the summer
I won’t hold my breath.
Yes – great to see after all these years – but I also reckon this is the poorest Aussie side since we last won over there in 1986.
Not bad team that one piengravy – when I was first 11 captain at a certain school in Lancs, young Mike W couldnt get into the team !!And he went on to play for England – I saw him playing against Windies around 95 – the day Dominic Cork took a hat trick.
You lot must have been good!!
David Lloyd
Barry Wood
Harry Pilling
Clive Lloyd
Frank Hayes
Farouk Engineer
David Hughes
Jack Simmons
Jackie Bond
Peter LeverGood one that
A team that represented my era of watching the mighty Lancs:
Fowler
Mendis
Crawley
Fairbrother
G Lloyd
Watkinson
Akram
Hegg
Defreitas
Folley
AllottThat team from the 90’s had some really good players in, they were just up against a brilliant Aussie side. The current team is pretty average, particularly in pace bowling – Anderson averages 32, Broad 35, but are up against a poor Aussie side.
From the side that started the first Test vs the side from the 90’s I’d swap
Gough for Anderson
Cork for Broad
Fraser for Finn
Stewart for Prior
Atherton or Hussain for Bell
Thorpe for Collingwood