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Eagles had some cracking games for Bolton.
But he also goes missing for periods of a season.
Too inconsistent for my liking and would probably command a decent fee.
Fair play to the ladI am disappointed we have lost him but he will always have a place in my heart for our FA cup winning campaign.
Best of luck to him.
Just look at Kevin Phillips, He has almost single handedly got Palace up.I think Murray’s 30 goals and Zaha’s creativity played a bigger part in their promotion for starters.
He did pop up with some vital goals but wheeling an old man out for 20 minutes at the end of the game is not the route I would like to see us go down.
Coyle’s team will be a lot more direct than Martinez but if he can get the balance right between keeping possession , utilising it well and sometimes knowing when it is worth a punt then I think there is enough creativity in the team to do well.
Add a steady defence and we should be on course for a decent season.
If he wants to start hitting long balls up for fun he will need to replace 90% of the squad IMO.
Quote from Salford.“He now has a month and a half to put together a team capable of winning the championship, progressing through europa whilst also having a respectable campaign defending our FA CUP.”
Well Salford, DW has stated that the Europa Cup is in no way a priority and also that he doesn’t expect us to go up this season but would like to within 2 seasons ! Who wins the FA Cup and then regards the following season’s competition as defending said cup ? You defend titles in sports but not cups ! I have heard sides classed as current holders but never defending champions !
Sorry Phil I don’t understand what you are asking me? :huh:
Or are you just nitpicking about my wording of having a respectable FA cup campaign?
Where has he said he doesn’t expect us to go up this season?
I as a supporter would love to win the Europa cup for obvious reasons but Whelan wants to get back in the PL for obvious reasons and rightly so.
I can sit here fantasizing where as Whelan has a job to do.
And a bloody good job he does!
Golobart said this on twitter:
Román Golobart @PutifarGolobart 12h
Wigan twaters. This week I’ll ltweet the reasons of my decision. I need a bit of time to settle down. But I’m very proud of your twaats ;)
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I hope its nothing bad :(
Goodbye Scharner, Figueroa, Alcaraz, Golobart, Lopez and Stam.
We’ve still got Boyce, Ramis and Caldwell.
We’ll be alright – so long as we only play a back three.
If Caldwell plays your only playing a back 2 he’s shocking at best, slower than a tax rebate :woohoo:[/quote]
In fairness to the lad he was carrying an injury for much of last season.[/quote]
He must have been carrying that injury since we signed him, he moves like a static caravan :whistle:[/quote]
Wont be the worst player to have around in the Championship though without having to be up against the sort of pace on show in the PL.
Some of the Bolton players commented on Dougie Freedman in the fact that since he took charge they were more tactically aware of how to play football.
They also talked about the more specialised training sessions and the sports science Freedman had implemented in regards to treating injuries.
Does he remind you of anyone?
How will the players react to the flipside of that story? He will be talking to players who have spent the last 4+ years working on game to game tactics to the finest detail.
I fear if he comes in and looks tactically naive to the players he will lose the respect of the dressing room very quickly.
It is better, of course, for players to say that their new manager is better than his predecessor. Freedman is still in the Championship. His old team, Crystal Palace, will kick off this season in the Premier League under Ian Holloway. But perhaps Freedman will enjoy the season more than Holloway.
I agree that Martinez worked on game tactics to the finest detail. However, many posters here – the majority I would say – criticised his tactics – and even called him tactically naive.
Coyle has got a reasonable cup record. In 2008/9, Burnley beat Chelsea and Arsenal in the League Cup. They lost to Spurs in the semi-final, but would have won had the away goals rule applied. Promotion to the Premier League followed in the play-offs.
He took Bolton to an FA Cup semi-final against Stoke which they lost 5-0. They won their next league game at home to Arsenal and stood eighth in the Premier League. After that it was all downhill. They finished the season with five losses in a row.
There’s another similarity with Wigan. Success in the FA Cup was followed by relegation.[/quote]
Freedman left palace sat at the top of the table firing from all cylinders. He then took coyle’s Bolton from 18th in the championship to just missing out on a play off place.
People are citing Coyles championship pedigree as a good reason for his appointment where as to me it seems to be 50/50.
When he took over at Bolton he tried to play football the right way & move away from fat sams long ball game,so good luck from me to the guy.hope he buys a nice suit :)
Did he? He may have said that was what he was trying to do but if he did he certainly failed in an abysmal fashion.[/quote]
Coyle did introduce a very attractive style at Bolton, who looked much better going forward than defending.
Before the 2011/12 season, Bolton lost Sturridge and Elmander and did not replace either. They suffered shocking pre-season injuries and then had a very tough start to their fixtures. They never really recovered.
Cahill left in January 2012 and then Bolton lost Muamba. Even so, they were not relegated until the last match of the season.
There are lots of similarities there with Wigan’s situation last season.[/quote]
Very attractive my arse :cheer:
Its bog standard direct football that in terms of our footballing philosophy is one giant step backwards.
None the less it may get us out of the Championship but I am dissapointed we didnt go down the route Swansea did and try and have a bit of continuation from the previous regime.
When he took over at Bolton he tried to play football the right way & move away from fat sams long ball game,so good luck from me to the guy.hope he buys a nice suit :)Did he? He may have said that was what he was trying to do but if he did he certainly failed in an abysmal fashion.
I cant remember a time where we appointed a manager which the majority didn’t approve. I think this is a terrible appointment on the basis that I can’t see him attracting the type of player to play our brand of football, which is disappointing because we spent 3 hard seasons adapting to the new style…only to be re-adapted to another style (very direct). The only silver lining I see is…..well, I cant!Poor, Poor decision in my opinion.
Agree completely.
Some of the Bolton players commented on Dougie Freedman in the fact that since he took charge they were more tactically aware of how to play football.
They also talked about the more specialised training sessions and the sports science Freedman had implemented in regards to treating injuries.
Does he remind you of anyone?
How will the players react to the flipside of that story? He will be talking to players who have spent the last 4+ years working on game to game tactics to the finest detail.
I fear if he comes in and looks tactically naive to the players he will lose the respect of the dressing room very quickly.
For me what he did at Bolton is irrelevant in our situation. The important thing on his CV is taking Burnley out of the Championship.People seem to be forgetting that’s where we are, and that’s what we need from a manager.
I think you have to take into account the fact he started last season in terrible fashion and he had more than enough time to put together a squad of his own players.
He now has a month and a half to put together a team capable of winning the championship, progressing through europa whilst also having a respectable campaign defending our FA CUP.
The fact Bolton had replaced Coyle with the sort of manager I would have liked to have seen in place in Dougie Freedman doesnt bode well with me.
While they are likely to go on and play an attractive style of football next season and look likely to carry on their good form we are left to wonder if Mcmanaman and Maloney will be reverted back to positions on the wing where they have both failed to impress in the past.
I dont like the stories I have heard about his easy going training sessions and lack of tactical input to players.
In summary I think this is a step backwards.
Absolute disaster.I will not be renewing my season ticket. Players will want to leave and he will not be able to attract the right players. Just wait for the Burnley and Bolton rejects.I am dissapointed but no need to spit your tampon out
I think you are saying Coyle as he would be the cheaper option Griff but I think Whelan will box clever on the wages side and pay McClaren on results .
I’m thinking more because of his record of getting teams out of the Championship, to be honest[/quote]
One team promoted, once.
Looks like its him according to skysports sources….
bitterly dissapointed if I am being honest.
I don’t give a stuff what he did at Bolton. He got Burnley into the PL. That’s the sort of manager we want.I would take a Europa Cup over promotion.
This winning cups gig is addictive.
I agree with you Phil.Some of our anti Bolton Brigade can’t put aside their prejudices and consider what he did at Bolton. He certainly got them playing a better style of football than Big Sam and made some shrewd loans / signings.
Give the Mon a chance !!!!!!
To be fair when he left Bolton they were 18th in the Championship.
I would rather have Fat Sam as much as it pains me to say it I think he is a good manager.
