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Scored 20 odd goals last season in a team that got forward in numbers and at pace ,not the snails pace we go forward at.Still no answers coming forward as to why none of the strikers we have signed in recent times can bag ? Then have their confidence ruined and moved on .
Kone didn’t do too badly – with 11.
Proud to be Lancashire, I bet there are many Wiganers who still regard themselves as from Lancashire! As for Horc, I must admit I was quite shocked at his outburst,a side to him I have never seen! As for the water, there is fuck all wrong with it!He’s just jealous because I’ve never bought him an icecream at the Heskin Steam Fair!
He is the way to a top six position unless he is left flapping around with no support. A proven goal scorer everywhere he has played and looking at him on the ground last Tuesday he looks in fine trim, which is a positive sign from an injured player. We could get into the January window out of him before someone snaps him up for a bargain where he will score for fun.
He was a proven goal scorer four years ago.
Since then he’s looked slow and lazy for us, Villa and Huddersfield.
Grigg is a proven goalscorer, so you should be pinning your hopes on him, not Holt.[/quote]
Standish, or should I say Griff wanabee, why do you purposely oppose virtually everything anyone has to say.
You are becoming a tedious boring /Edited ADMIN/ like your mentor Mr Martinez.[/quote]
Because it’s a forum, and forums are for debating on.If I don’t agree with what you say, I’ll tell you so, and tell you why. The idea is, you then come back with a counter-argument.
Alternatively, just ignore what I’ve written rather than getting offended that I don’t agree with you.
We are a strikers graveyard……keep this 1 up policy and Grigg will follow the rest of our recent strikers down the goal drought path. His body language in the 2nd half was one of being p****d off .Doubt it.
Grigg scored 20 as a lone striker for MK Dons and has said that’s how he prefers to play:
You’re right mate but it does my head in as much as middle lane strollers on the M6There is no benefit, as it means more of their men in our box and no outlet if cleared. Perhaps it fits in with the philosophy of not wanting to hoof a clearance but as we’ve mostly agreed on, messing about at the back is not our best option.
We seem to be employing a team of midgets, compared to other teams in this division as well, which doesn’t help on corners so maybe that’s in our thinking of getting everyone back. I was expecting Bryan Griffiths to come on as sub on Sunday.
Something we commented on at the game last weekend.
There are at least half a dozen of the squad who look alike: ie. fair-haired, 12 year old dwarves.
(Are you still allowed to use that word?)
Its just about the football with me Tez. I don’t mind how many we concede just as long as we score more. Football styles are soon forgotten in a all out game between two attacking teams. Of late we are not an attacking side. Actually Martinez Coyle McKay and even Rosler despite his promises have all been pretty boring apart from the occasional glimse of what we cam do. Gary seems to be continuing that trend. All you ever get every time you comment on this type of football is criticism.I don’t think you can criticise Coyle, Rosler or McKay for not encouraging attacking football.
Martinez and Caldwell – yes. They do prefer the cautious build-up, keeping poessession and waiting for a gap to open.
The other three though, were much more direct.
I think you may be confusing poor quality with boring tactics.
Personally I prefer the Martinez / Caldwell way, but that’s my personal preference.
Is this like double bluff fishing?I’m confused here whether people are being thick or winding each other up and nobody knows it :silly:
I’m just intrigued how “Scoring goals and keeping clean sheets” is an insight into what style of play they adopt.
Considering the ‘keeping clean sheets’ part of Robin’s comment, Donny’s response of…
‘I take it you are not a fan of positive football with lots of goals. My preference is win 3-2 rather than 1-0.’
…is a classic.
My take on Sundays game…… I should point out Im only 50, so I still have a positive outlook on life unlike so many of the bitter sods that spread their poison around the ground and on the internet forums.I think it could have been the best game of football at home we’ve seen for more than 12 months. Sure the defence was suspect at times, especially when we played ourselves into trouble. Having said that it is very hard for a centre half to cope with an on rushing forward when the ball to him is short or misdirected. If you look back on all the tic-tac that got us into problems, the pass to the defender was careless if not shocking. Barnett is not a ball playing centre half, but he brings other things to the team, it is up to us to not leave hime exposed.
On the whole we kept the ball well, we moved it around well, we were very creative at times. With a better choice of final ball we had the capability to win that game quite easily. I do know we rode our luck at times, but so did Doncaster. Grigg ran his blood to water, he will score us goals, if we have the composure to play the right ball. Composure and understanding will come with time playing together, this is a NEW team.
Bring on Wednesday evening, this team is well drilled, and i believe well coached, it just needs a little time to settle.
I await the abuse from the darkside. Enjoy your football, I know I do !!
In my opinion, that’s a balanced view.
Good post.
He is the way to a top six position unless he is left flapping around with no support. A proven goal scorer everywhere he has played and looking at him on the ground last Tuesday he looks in fine trim, which is a positive sign from an injured player. We could get into the January window out of him before someone snaps him up for a bargain where he will score for fun.He was a proven goal scorer four years ago.
Since then he’s looked slow and lazy for us, Villa and Huddersfield.
Grigg is a proven goalscorer, so you should be pinning your hopes on him, not Holt.
Should be good to watch and let us just hope someone at Latics watches that style of play.What style of play is that?
I was rather referring to the honourable gentleman’s comment:“Completely understand why they play from the back. If the keeper hoofs it out every time he gets it, chances are, around 50% of the time you’ll just be handing it stright to the opposition.”
Whether Barnett is playing or not.
Edit: apologies for ‘cocking up’ the quote thingymebob
If you’re implying that there’s a time and a place for the keeper to lump it, then I’m in agreement.
And it should be a case of rolling or throwing it to a defender whenever it’s safe to do so.
But I suspect our man O’Donnell either isn’t used to doing that yet, or does not have the capacity to make that judgement himself.
Is there any reason why Daniels wouldn’t play over Barnett?Surely he can’t be as bad.
I’d play Paul Daniels ahead of Barnett.
It was probably the first time in my 37 years of watching latics that i never knew any of the starting 11 bar barnett & mccann. I too had a knob sat behind me who shouted “absolute sh1t” in front of his 5 year old son at the end of the game. IMO it is a brand new team with a brand new manager that needs to be given time to gel. My only concern was the passing back to the keeper which almost nearly ended in a goal to them. Clearly caldwell has obviously learned this from martinez. I agree also with the comment made about the loanees. If these guys were here for the seasin then fine, play them. But, if they are only here for a month then dont play them & give OUR lads the chance to play & gel with the 1st teamers.
Overall i would give us a 6 out of 10. Plenty of reasons to think we will be fine, but still a lot of work needed to be done.Completely understand why they play from the back. If the keeper hoofs it out every time he gets it, chances are, around 50% of the time you’ll just be handing it stright to the opposition.
But, if you’re playing it out from the back, the last person you want to give it to is Barnett.[/quote]
It’s OK understanding the concept of the play but for heavens sake put a lot more practice into it, otherwise it may be better to ‘hoof’ and hope for a 50/50 ball. At least it’s half way down the pitch allowing the team to regroup…make a mistake between the goalie and defender and it can be (as we almost saw the other day) catastrophic.
Caldwell was guilty of it himself in his playing days (hence the nickname) but he needs to impress upon his defenders to keep their heads up, look around and plan the pass before they receive the ball from the goalie and not receive the ball with their backs to play.[/quote]
I refer to honourable gentleman to the comment:
‘But, if you’re playing it out from the back, the last person you want to give it to is Barnett’
Barnett isn’t up to it. Even when he is under pressure, some of his passing is woeful. I don’t think it’s a matter of him not keeping his head up unfortunately.
He got less of the ball in the second half so I’m hoping someone on the coaching staff spoke about it during the half time break.
It’s a shame Bolton wanted to off-load the dynamic duo so quickly or we could have done the long term loan thing to check out those two we brought in from Horwich. Thanks Tyldesley for clarifying why we loaned the lads from Everton.
If you’re including Davies in that, most Bolton fans I’ve spoken to rate him.[/quote]
Jonny, ask any North End fans you know what they think of him! I have yet to come across any with positive vibes for the lad, in fact quite a few have actually taken the piss! :)[/quote]
I actually only know 1 Preston Fan! Seriously.To be fair though, he only played half a season at Preston – and that was when he was recovering from injury.
Every Bolton fan I’ve spoken to says if kept fit, he’s a decent player. But the problem is keeping him fit.
It’s a shame Bolton wanted to off-load the dynamic duo so quickly or we could have done the long term loan thing to check out those two we brought in from Horwich. Thanks Tyldesley for clarifying why we loaned the lads from Everton.If you’re including Davies in that, most Bolton fans I’ve spoken to rate him.
