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I wonder what the wage bill is? Say 20 players earning on average 20,000 a week, thats 21 million gone already in a year!
For arguments sake double what you have said take off another £13M for back room/ground staff etc and that would still leave £20M in the coffers.[/quote]
Horc, you’re usually one of the good posters on here in my opinion, but you’ve fallen into their trap on this.It’s nowhere near £60 million that a club like Wigan earns in a season. We’ve had people on here saying the BBC have said it is, here’s the link etc, but they haven’t read or understood the piece properly – and to boot, it’s two years old.
We’re taking £30 to £40 million max from last season – and that’s information from PA Sport, who are the recognised authority in sports MI.
If you double the wage bill estimate by Bidstrup and add £13 million, you’d end up £13 million or so in the red, which after gate receipts and sponsorships, would bring you to break-even if you’re lucky. (I estimated the wage bill to be around £30 million as a nice round figure – as you need to take into account player bonuses which can be a frightening amount of money – that would bring you to break-even)
We have to sell to free up any money, a simple fact, and everytime I say it, I get slated: it’s not greed, it’s not lack of ambition, it is survival and stability. That’s what pissed Bruce off, as he knew he’d never keep a team together from season to season, and it’s why Whelan touts at every opportunity. As Bruce found out, if you want to buy big, you have to sell big.
Look at Portsmouth – £44 million in debt. If they received £60 million, plus gate receipts and sponsorship, and with the profits they made from selling half their squad, they’d be in a healthy position. They’re not. If this take-over involving Peter Storrie doesn’t go through, they’re going into administration in the very near future – and that is a fact. They’ve even resorted to offering contracts to people like Eugene Bopp – who was released from Crewe – just to cut their wage bill. Their new Arab potential-owner has pulled out as he’s seen the costs involved in running a football club.
Unless you are Real, Barca, Arsenal, or Man U, possibly Liverpool and Milan, nobody makes money. Ask Mike Ashley, ask Briatore at QPR, ask Dodi’s dad at Fulham, ask Gaydamak the ex-Pompey owner, or even ask Sir David Murray, the owner of Rangers – who have virtually a 50% share of anything financially viable in Scottish football, and who is a classic example of buying a club on messages from the heart, then a few years down the line realising you’ve made a very expensive mistake.
Now Setanta have gone tits up, payments this season are not going to take the Apollo Nine-like rise some people on here are quoting.
It aint rose gardens.
Someone is quick off the mark. Had been updated on Wikipedia already.
Oh yee.. Wikipedia that really reliable source.
I recall Diame’s page saying something along the lines of “…midfielder currently playing for Wigan Athletic” about a month back?
I also remember seeing something like that on Salvador Cabanas’ wikipedia page.
Wikipedia is the home of gossip, bullshit and a hell of a lot of WRLFC stirrers.[/quote]
Correct.
Was just pointing out the fact that somone has already been on there and updated it before the players have actually signed.
How the hell did he get MOTM? He can’t tackle and his sole contribution was to pass the ball back to Bramble and Scharner every chance he got. I thought Bob said he was a creative midfielder. I know it’s early days and we have to give him a chance but he don’t look anything special to me.
Get a grip, he’s f**kin class.
One of the best players, on the ball, we have ever seen in a Latics shirt. Never stopped running, never stopped looking for openings, the guy is quality. A very intelligent player.
Have a bit of patience, for f**ks sake![/quote]
I watched John Robertson and even before that Jeff Wright, Tommy Gore, Peter Houghton etc.
My question was how did Gomez get MOTM? I would have been hard pressed to pick 1 after Tuesday’s nightmare but i don’t think he was the best Wigan player on the pitch.And as I said I will give him time as it is a big step up form the Championship to the Premier League.
But there’s no need as you already have him down as 1 of the most skillful players ever to wear the shirt. After 2 league games and a few pre season friendlies how do you work that out?[/quote]
Hindley, on the subject of Jeff Wright. Was he crap? I always remember my dad saying he was crap, but I was too young to know any different and was just happy to jump up and down when we scored and look forward to a pie at half time.
Some people on here remember him with fondness. I just remember my dad’s expert analysis of ‘Jeff Wright? Load of crap.’
I wonder what the wage bill is? Say 20 players earning on average 20,000 a week, thats 21 million gone already in a year!Don’t even go down this path! I tried to demonstrate how we are lucky to break even in a season and got railroaded!
You mean just like Kaka or Terry joined City? Or just like Andy Johnson joined us when we bettered Everton’s bid?
Can somebody put up here how much we get from sky ?It isn’t £60 million. £60 miilion takes into account TV payments and relegation parachute payments (as the promoted teams are favourites to go straight back down.) The correct figure from last season – according to The Independent- was between £31 million to £38 million for the less fashionable clubs – see link below.
Overheard in the West Stand last night, and said in all seriousness:
‘Who is this bloody Martinez bloke anyway?’Not sure who said it, but it resulted in numerous heads turning, then shaking in disbelief.
I josh you not.
I reckon Bob already knows where the problem lies , hence the imminent signing of a new , more attack minded midfielder. You can’t play two defensive midfielders , in our style of play , in home games.We need midfielders who will be looking to take the ball off Titus & Scharner as soon as they get it , therefore saving us the agony of watching the two centre backs struggle like they did last night. Or maybe we need centre halves who are more comfortable on the ball. Amaya maybe ?? It pains me to say this but I also reckon we really missed Catt last night.
Wolves scoring so early last night meant we needed some urgency to our play , but with the painfully slow build up via TB & PS we just didn’t get it.
Against Utd unless Amaya comes in I really hope we do revert to plan B , otherwise I can see Titus returning to the nervous wreck that Newcastle created.
You got there before me!
I was relatively impressed with Scotland when he came on, and I think he could work well with Rodallega, as in my opinion, Hugo’s too light weight for the lone striker role. We definitely do need another lad up front though.
The weak link for me in the system that Martinez is trying to play is Brown. You can’t play a passing game with a central midfielder who can’t pass. Thomas didn’t have a good game, but at least he looks comfortable on the ball. Granted, Brown is in there to break-up play, but he needs to be able to do something with the ball when he gets it.
Last night the central defensive midfielders should have been making themselves available when we were are in possession and so create a link between defence and midfield. They didn’t, and that’s why the ball went across the back four until it was clear there was nobody free, and hoof, up the field it went. All they need to do it collect from Bramble et al, and link up the the more creative Gomez or the wide players.
We need a Micheal Carrick for the system to work properly. Is there an Aldi version of Carrick that we could get on the cheap from somewhere?
All Whelan will pay is peanuts so we had best get used to watching a load of monkeys then.Or we can go £40 grand a week per man and end up like Leeds?
Sorry Prescott but you must have been watching a differnt game than me. It was utter rubbish. If the chairman doesn’t get the right type of player in, and to do that he will have to spend some serious money then it is relegation. The sooner he sells the club to someone who is prepared to take it seriously the better. I was there before Whelan and will be there after him.Is this another pearl of wisdom? Who in their right mind would buy Wigan other than another multi-millionaire Wiganner? (And there aint many of them about) Do you think a foreign owner would take it more seriously than Whelan?
Get a grip. It was a bad performance. Every team has them.
