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Was I the only one disappointed by Bobby’s decision to move our most potent attacking threat to left back late in the 2nd half?
Poor decision in my book, as was the decision to wait until the 90th minute to make the next change & Bobby’s substitutions in general disappoint me – no changing of the system if things aren’t workign or we’re chasing a game, just like for like changesLandzaat scored against Reading away in a 2-1 or 3-2 defeat as well didn’t he?
Personally I thought he was $h!t. Had less bottle in a tackle than Gary Teale & didn’t offer much else neither. How he ever got so many caps for the Netherlands I’ll never know
There have been no “wholescale changes” to the back 5 as it is identical to the one that has been there since about January 2008,
yet we’ve gone from having one of the best defensive records outside of the top 4 to the 4th worst in the division.If Bobby is asking them to play a completely different style then it quite clearly isn’t working & he needs to realise we don’t have the players capable of “playing their way out from the back” & change his methods. How often does he have to stick his hand in a fire before he realises it burns?
the normal advice I’ve read players get given after a concussion is not to play for a week, so depending on how severe Edman’s knock was then he should be fit for the Fulham game
I don’t think he has the reason why we keep losing to the relegation battlers right but I thik he has a point overall
We’ve played 3 sides who are in amongst the dead men & who are more than likely to still be there or thereabouts come the business end of the season & we’ve lost them all & everybody always says that you need to pick up points off the teams around you which we aint doing.
I can’t see us continuing to pick up points from the sides higher up the table as they’ll suss out quickly how to play against Bobby’s style & that’s when defeats to Wolves, Hull & Pompey will really start to hurtThe situation is a hell of alot different with the Welsh clubs as Welsh clubs have played in the English league system for almost as long as its been going – to throw them out after some of them have been here for over 100 years & have earned the right to be here is IMO different to inviting 2 other clubs in merely to help them get more cash at the expense of other clubs
Similarly there are English clubs playing in the Welsh (TNS) & Scottish (Berwick) leagues but they’ve been there donkey’s
If Celtic & Rangers want to stop playing in Scotland & start playing in England then let them resign their SPL place & apply to joing the NWCL or NECL & work their way up like every other club in our pyramid structure has to
Playing in a play off with the 7th & 8th placed teams in the championship is not fair to everybody else. Nor is plonking em straight into the top flight. Nor is increasing the number of teams in the top flight to accomodate them.
Both clubs talk about joining the premier league rather than the English leagues & so i assume they think that they have some sort of right that if they abandon their own domestic league they “deserve” to be in the top flight. If they finish in the bottom 3 would they refuse to be relegated??
And why stop at Rangers & Celtic – Benfica, Porto, Anderlecht, Club Brugge, Ajax, PSV etc.. are all “too big” for their own domestic leagues. Lets invite them in too coz its not fair they can’t complete in Europe coz their own domestic leagues are so poorEDIT – and there are enough idiots who watch football in England anyway without Rangers & Celtic fans chucking in their own brand of religious bigotry into the mix n’all
Kenwyne Jones is a hugely over-rated, pile of gash – I wouldn’t want him as part ex regardless of the money on top
“He signed in January 2006 for 3 and a half years then signed a 2 year extension last year so it summer 2011 his contract ends. It wouldnt surprise me if we arent talking extensions now to his contract”
It wasn’t a 2 year extension. He had a year left on his contract in the summer of 2008 & negotiated a new 2 year deal. It superceded his existing deal & wasn’t an additional 2 years on top of it.
So it does run out in 2010No
Off the top of my head, in our first season in the top flight we beat West Brom 2-1 after going 1-0 behind. We also beat City 4-3 on Boxing Day after going a goal down in the first couple of minutes
I’m sure there are others too
“It did however show up all the mainstream parties for what they are, all of them Oxford/Cambridge educated academics”
of the 5 panelists last night 3 of them got their degrees from oxford or cambridge – one of those 3 was Mr Griffin
As I’ve said previously I think people’s opinions of how the show went are coloured by our existing opinions on Griffin’s party
personally I though he was asked questions & allowed to answer them. If someone (audience or panel member) thought he was talking gash then they told him so. That happens on the programme every single week & was no different last night other than Griffin’s party bring up strong emotions in people (both pro & anti).
The black playwrite is one of the senior people at the British museum (I didn’t hear or see the part about her being a playwrite) & had British heritage. She interrupted him twice from memory & one of those was when he described the bloke from the KKK as being “almost totally, non-violent” – as someone who no doubt has had more direct experience of the activities of the KKK on communities in America I personally think she was the best person there to comment on that point
I’ve already made my point on his comments about his & jack Straw’s father in WWII which to me is irrelevant but your comment that his opinions on Islam were “correctly stated” with regards to its treatment of women – every religion, christianity included, has its extreme sects & some of those within christianity degrade women. It might also have escaped your attention that there was a muslim woman on the panel who didn’t appear to degraded by her religion. That btw is not a defence of the extremist sects of that religion but as she herself stated the majority of the population of her religion think those people are idiots too
The point you make about him saying immigrants to this country should respect our laws etc. was also repeated by the reps of the 3 main parties who were there, as were limits on numbers, capping etc..
As for respecting the laws of this country, perhaps someone should remind him that he & many of the high ranking members of his party have convictions for breaking the laws of our country. Where was the respect for the law then?
Do I agree with the BNP? Not quite!!! :lol:He was numerous opportunites to give his & his party’s views on a number of subjects & he did.
Its a panel show & so all the other panelists & audience are allowed their viewpoints too. Which is what they did also – if they think he’s talking out of his rear end then they are just as entitled to say that as he is to give his opinion.
The fact that so many of the audience & panelists disagreed so strongly with his view points is reflective of how the vast majority of the other 94% of those who voted in the european elections feel about it. When he made points some agreed with, he was applauded.
He was no more harassed then numerous other politicians & guests have been on the same programme over the years
I work in a school, & have worked in schools for the last 10 years all of which was under a labour government. I can categorically state that in none of the various schools i have worked in has British history been in any way shape of form a taboo subject
I’d have to take issue with “British values .. are key to civilisation” as you could meet many people worldwide who have suffered as a result throughout history due to British valuesI am not questionning Griffin’s right to be proud his dad fought in WWII as I’m proud my grandad did but it doesn’t make me any less of a tw at than some think I am. Nor does it do the same to Nick Griffin. Nor does Jack Straw’s dad’s conduct have any reflection on jack Straw. IMO it was a weak & feeble argument & one that made him look like he was in a primary school playground shouting my dad’s harder than your dad
Exactly – if your manager states in the press that “we never play 4-4-2” I can’t see him changing that philosophy less than a week later
If one of the best points he could manage to muster was along the lines of “my dad’s bigger than yours” then that says it all really.
I guess your opinion of how it went for him is likely to be coloured (no pun intended) by your view of him & his party beforehand anyway – personally I thought he made himself look more of an ass than he did previously as his main arguments seemed to be denying things that he is known to have said or saying he can’t say what he really feels about a particular subject coz the law won’t allow him (which it will)
As for the programme being biased – IMO he was given numerous opportunites to explain his & his party’s viewpoints & failed miserably.
“the audience was representative of multicultural London, not “pi**ed off” rest of the country” – hold on a second, his party gained approx 6% of the vote in a turnout of the electorate in the european elections of under 35%. Enough to get his party seats & enough to earn him the right to be on such a show but the proportion of people in the audience who shared his point of view was representative of those figures & in a guest panel of 5 they were actually over-represented.
For me the fact his & his party’s policies were battered from pillar to post from start to finish is representative of just how disgusting the “rest of the country” finds their policies.
You can’t demand his right to be on such a programme & then bellyache when people make their views about his party’s policies known
