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  • in reply to: Club Finances and Possible Future #188169

    I don’t want an owner who is going to come in an invest a fortune
    I want a new owner who is going to come in and run us on an even keel with the ambition for the club to be the best it can be with what we’ve got.
    We’ve gone down this route of being reliantt on an owner to sub us £x a month and there’s always the risk that what is happening to us now could always be one tantrum or bout of boredom away from happening again
    If my way means Latics become A Lge1 or 2 side then so be it. I’ll just be happy to still have a football club to support

    in reply to: Suggestion & Solution to the end of season. #186157
    But if the season is void there will be so many lawsuits brought that the start of next season will be impossible. This is gonna change the game at greed level big time.

    There’s already lawsuits in progress at the step3-7 of non league that the FA null and voided within about a week and a half of the lockdown

    The main problems being that a) it was decided with practically no consultation with the clubs who would be affected b) after saying they wanted a uniform approach throughout non league they allowed steps 1 & 2 to come to a different solution of their own choosing & c) after saying that the use the current tables or PPG were more unfair than voiding they allowed leagues below step 7 to decide whether to void, use current tables or PPG to decide on final placings and relegation/promotion and even provided them with a formula that they said would allow for a fair calculation

    In short the FA have made a complete and total cock up of the whole thing.

    in reply to: 1980s Casuals #186066
    They tried it as an experiment I think but could have been rugby related as they had the upper hand back then so may have been a ploy to grab some of their spectators.
    Not sure it lasted very long due to one or two incidents ‘off the pitch’ and they soon returned to saturdays.
    Remember the relentless ‘“Wiggin is a rugby tarn “RL publicity machine ? This was at its height back then and we as a club felt the brunt of it with little coverage in the local rags.
    We really were pushed into the back ground back then and it still rankles with many of us even today.
    The board got some stick at the time if I remember rightly however they always seems to have the welfare of the club at heart .
    Got our own back in the end though and the revenge was very sweet indeed when we overtook them onto the global stage!

    It was an attempt to get more spectators in as they were looking at the big crowds Tranmere & Stockport were getting playing on a Friday (even though both had been doing it for years) & the fact that both had crossover of fans from Liverpool/Everton & United/City.
    I’m not sure that it registered with those at the club that both were having really successful periods at this time hence the big crowds whilst Latics, for want of a better phrase, were a bit crap so it didn’t really work for us

    in reply to: Grigg’s Transfer #185976
    What has his Championship record and Sunderland got to do with anything?

    That said Mutty – Egg has a point

    in reply to: Grigg’s Transfer #185975
    Not me. This is what I said when there was a rumour of a loan deal 15 months ago:

    Happy to have him on loan, but wouldn’t be happy to sign him permanently. There’s a reason why Brentford loaned him out when they got promoted, MK Dons didn’t sign him when they got promoted and he spends all his time on the bench for you in the Championship.

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    I meant I warned you about your new owner not Will Grigg

    in reply to: Grigg’s Transfer #185948

    Watched it myself Mutt and seriously hope our owner and his sidekick have a little more acumen about them. As a fan mutt how did they come across to you. I think the chief exec is bonkers.

    Too much of it about the owner and Chief Exec. I was expecting a bit more dressing room coverage, but I guess the manager wasn’t as keen on the 2nd series (and the money) as the owner. O’Nien comes across as a very pleasant lad – the sort you’d like your daughter to date. But TBF, that’s exactly how he comes across every day and every game. First into training and last out. First to come to the fans for selfies and the last to leave.

    Owner comes across as naïve. Chief Exec comes across as a “don’t bullshit me” guy, which is exactly what was needed after the last Chief Exec who had a £100K cryo chamber installed that only he used!

    This season, they’ve been found out and exposed as a couple of southern chancers who bet the parachute payment on going up and flogging us for a profit. Charlie has already walked away and Stu is trying to sell up, but is still deluded enough to be asking £40m for a club he bought for significantly less, using parachute payments to part-fund it.[/quote]

    I’m assuming it was you Mutty as I can’t imagine who else i would have been having the discussion with but I did warn you about this guy when he took over and you were hailing him as your saviour and believing every word that came out of his mouth
    Apologies if it wasn’t you. I definitely had the debate with someone on here
    I think

    in reply to: Cardiff’s Two Goals Today! #185166
    Just watched the highlights and can’t believe how low the standard of officiating in this league! Somebody else have a look, but both goals came from a long throw-in and for both of the throws the Cardiff guys foot is over the line and on the pitch!

    I understand the rule to be that your foot should be behind the line. If that is the case, how come the officials cannot spot such a simple thing?????

    The law is both feet have to be on or behind the touchline so you can have the majority of your foot over the line and the tiniest fraction over it and it’s fine
    Just like from a corner the ball can be placed on the ground outside the triangle as long as part of the ball overhangs the line of it

    Both throw ins were perfectly okay in law & it’s just an example of a player and club knowing those laws and exploiting them to gain that extra bit of advantage

    in reply to: Dujon Sterling #181393

    I saw an interview online with one of our players (I forget who)
    It was all light hearted but their answer to the last question mentioned he (Sterling) keeps getting hauled into the manager’s office and fined for turning up late to training
    I’m sure our other player didn’t mean to drop him in it but to me it looks like an indication that his attitude’s not right nevermind his fitness

    in reply to: Worst referee ever !!! #180564
    Dave’s statement to him says what I think most, if not all (Tyldesley back me up on this) match officials think.
    “Call me incompetent. That’s fine. You’re probably right.
    Call me a cheat, then you are off. I do not cheat. I do not favour one team over the other. I do this unthankful job because I love the game, not to give one team or other an advantage.
    I may get things wrong. In fact I do get things wrong. Frequently. And it worries me. But that’s my failing, not a deliberate act.
    Never ever ever call me a cheat”

    Spot on. I’ve known some good refs and I’ve known some shit ones but I’ve never met one who has cheated
    I used to get accused of being biased virtually every week by someone in the crowd and I sent players off for saying it. I never cheated – I got things right or wrong simple as. Some times I had great games and other times I had stinkers
    If I reffed Wigan tomorrow I’ve no doubt some Latics fans would accuse me of being biased against them

    in reply to: Stoke – Carabao Cup #180428

    What eventually happened that day had its roots in the days before the game itself.
    If I remember rightly, the game was all ticket as the police couldn’t handle anything remotely approaching a decent turn out.
    Stoke had been given 3.5k tickets of which there were tons left (as I don’t think they were doing particularly well) until Stanley Matthews passed away & then they disappeared in a matter of minutes & Stoke requested more – unfortunately as it was so close to the day itself (Friday possibly) Latics (and the police) said it wasn’t possible. Stoke & their fans were complaining heavily about it
    Latics however made the extremely stupid decision to then publicise that tickets for the home end would be on sale until noon on the Saturday – This was in the days before the database system & I got the train into Wigan from Atherton that day & it was full of Stoke fans who’d already twigged on to this & had either already bought tickets in the Wigan end or were on their way to
    Yes they shouldn’t have done it, but many of us will have gone in the home end when unable to get tickets with the Latics faithful & I know that I have – it happens and the sale & publicity of when the tickets were on sale until was badly handled by Latics

    To the game itself – I do remember isolated individuals disrupting the minutes silence inside the ground & they were shouted down by both sets of supporters. But it did happen

    Garswood’s description is then pretty much spot on other than that the Stoke fans had been brough through the concourse before being brought back out & down the stand steps in full view of everyone. What I would say though is that when that small group of Stoke fans were being escorted down the steps the fans in the away end started singing Delilah. Stupidly those going down the steps joined in in a show of bravado. The Latics fans reacted, one shouted “Are you taking the ####”, a Stoke fan told him to “**** off” and the Latics fan hit him. Stoke fans hit back, more Latics joined in & then many of those in the away end came over to join in
    I was sat next to the aisle & about 5 rows up from where the first punch was thrown & I can guarantee you it was thrown by a Latics fan

    Anyway, my rather long winded point is that there’s a lot of factors that contributed towards that from Stoke fans not initially buying tickets, through to Latics publicising home tickets were still on sale, to Stoke fans getting those tickets, the stewards unbelievable decision to do what he did, those fans joining in that chant & a Latics fan throwing the first punch and others not being able to handle seeing an away fan in the Latics end without wanting to hit them, to those stoke fans being there in teh first place & acting like prats. Various sides with various vested interests have always spun their own version of it & the one that seems to have stuck in the wider consciousness is Brenda Spencer’s “It seemed to be a pre-planned co-ordinated event” interview she gave to the media afterwards
    Stoke fans for their part spin the minutes silence disruption myth – in a crowd of say 10,000 I’d say 3 or 4 did that

    in reply to: Play-offs – Who do we want to play next season? #179080

    Bigger than when Leeds were in there? Or Preston? Or Leicester? Wolves? Blackburn? Sides that have won things in this generation?

    Yes. It seems everyone wanted to be there when Sunderland came to town. Maybe next season Ipswich will be the cup final for everyone. I hope so, as facing sides looking to make a name for themselves is an added pressure we could do without, and probably why Luton slipped under the radar.[/quote]

    And nobody would have wanted to be there against Leeds or Wolves.

    I know you’re a goon fan mutty but that is beyond even their levels of delusion[/quote]

    He had previous SSB – I remember a post of their’s about this time last year claiming L1 would “never have seen the likes before” when Sunderland came to town. You know coz no other clubs have ever sold out away ends in L1 before??

    And I have to say, this “other clubs were trying to make a name for themselves/trying harder against us” is just as arrogant and delusional. They didn’t go up coz they simply weren’t good enough. I watched the play off final & they were dire & lacking attacking intent which (from Reading Sunderland fans comments on social media) is indicative of their manager’s tactics – which probably goes further in explaining why only Liverpool & City lost less games but they still didn’t go up than “teams were trying harder against us”!!

    in reply to: Boselli #179026
    His name popped up in conversation at the weekend so I researched his career which seems to have been very successful most of it with Club Leon Mexico where his record is something like 104 goals in 180 appearances. Wiki puts him down as Leon’s all time club record scorer with 140.Hes won several South American major trophies even states FA cup with Wigan .Is that right? Did he get a medal ? My memory shot to bits.All in all had a great career and talented, just not the right fit for us at the time. Remember him making debut against Blackpool at home in I think a 4 nil mauling,looked shellshocked and must have wondered what he’d done !!!

    Yes he did get an FA Cup medal. Don’t forget he scored the goal that got us past Bournemouth in a replay.
    Not sure whether he played against Macclesfield or not

    Not a player suited to the English game or Bobby’s tactics which was exactly what John Benson told Whelan when Bobby was trying was trying to sign him (which allegedly led to Benson being eased out of the club by Bobby)

    in reply to: Play-offs – Who do we want to play next season? #178951

    I’d prefer Villa just to stop all the media self flagulation about Frank Lampard’s Derby County – plus they’re all a bunch of drivers pestering the ref all game
    I’d prefer Charlton to come up as, living in Surrey, I’d be hopeful of making that one and it’d be a ground to tick off my 92 list as I’ve never been there before.
    Plus it’d be one in the eye for all these “big club” sections of the Sunderland support

    in reply to: Oh so boring, Premier League #178863
    I….but dearie me….most of the goalkeeping has been dreadful ….and some of it beyond parody.

    Spot on about the goalkeeping – I was only saying that the other week

    in reply to: Oh so boring, Premier League #178854
    To look soley at the last twelve months spend of city and Liverpool is subjective in itself. And why are city in trouble with the football authorities?
    All clubs buy and sell, it business. And a lot of clubs pay over the odds for some bang average players which isn’t the fault of the selling club?

    That’s the point – one particularly irate Scouser was saying, City needed 2 full backs & spent £mills. Liverpool needed 2 & spent £8mill so Klopp was better – completely neglecting to mention the net figures that both had spent last summer.
    Ultimately though City had a great side in 17/18 & didn’t spend much last summer. Liverpool had a very good side in 17/18 & spent a fortune last summer to make themselves great.
    They’ve both spent a freaking fortune whether that money came from oil barons, TV deals, sponsorship, state money or player sales
    But, as Fulham amongst others showed, just chucking a load of money at a team doesn’t guarantee results & both are clearly excellent man manager’s & tacticians too

    And my point about how much Palace & Bournemouth pay for Liverpool players wasn’t a dig at Liverpool – if they can get that then fair enough but it staggers me how both clubs seem so gullible when it comes to forking out for Liverpool players. I mean £19mill for Solanke who barely used to make Liverpool’s squad & who’s top flight scoring record at present is 31 games (24 sub – not sure if that means 24 of those 31 appearances have come as a sub or whether its 31 + 24 but anyway) & 1 goal!!!

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