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IIt’s a dear do London if you go all weekend, train, digs, cost of fun, match tickets, whether you find a deal or not.
Tell me about it, especially with family in tow.
Having costed it up looks like I’ll be taking my tourer down & staying on a site in the Colne Valley for 20 quid a night!!!On another note has anybody jumped the gun and booked anything for a stopover down there? ;)
I haven’t booked owt but I did spend quite a while on Wednesday looking at train times & prices and hotel costs for doing a Friday through Monday stay over with the family.
Train prices weren’t too bad at the time but there were no cheap hotels coming up like I found for the cup final[/quote]Did you look at Premier Inns?[/quote]
Yeah
Don’t get me wrong if you want to pre-pay for a room you can pick something up at a premier inn right by Wembley for about £200 for a family room for 3 nights & some a few miles away (Harrow for example) for just over £100 for the same period. Problem is that they’re the no-refund rooms meaning that if we get turfed out next month by Morecambe I’ve already paidYou can book the flexi-rooms but that’s when you start to push £300 – fine if we get knocked out before the final but £300 + 4 match tickets + 4 train tickets starts to add up. :blink: :blink:
I might just have to try & unsuggest the idea to the wife that it would be a good family weekend away to see the sights & watch Latics crowned 3 times Football League Trophy winners, and just go for a boozy day & night with the lads!!!
On another note has anybody jumped the gun and booked anything for a stopover down there? ;)I haven’t booked owt but I did spend quite a while on Wednesday looking at train times & prices and hotel costs for doing a Friday through Monday stay over with the family.
Train prices weren’t too bad at the time but there were no cheap hotels coming up like I found for the cup finalThe worst thing is that some marketing/PR firm will have been paid a fortune to come up with that totally pointless piece of $h!te.
Some club’s are struggling to exist, some fans have been priced out of the game & the football league forks out that sort of money on something that won’t make a blind bit of difference when it comes to attracting or retaining supporters.Like you say, unbelievable!!
They were informed by the FA that the game had been selected for live TV broadcast & would be the Monday night game.
The FC United board informed them that following consultation with their members that they refused to move it & that they did not want to charge the minimum £10 that the FA says must be charged for 1st round games.
The FA then replied that they insisted it be moved & that under competition rules they could insist on this. Likewise with the entrance fee.They consulted with their members & then agreed that they would go ahead but that they were deeply disappointed & had contacted the FA to let them know.
On the issue of the entrance price they charged £10 but issued everyone with a £1 voucher to home & away supporters that could be redeemed against refreshments. They picked up the cost of this offer out of their own share of the gate receipts & it didn’t cost Chesterfield anything.
A lot of their fans boycotted the first half & some boycotted the whole game in protest at the move.Rosler had his moments.He took us to a fabulous away win at Manchester City – when City were out for revenge for their Cup Final defeat. He went on to a fantastic semi-final at Wembley, where we more than matched Arsenal.
And we did reach the play-offs – though that was something of an anticlimax.
I think his discipline with the players may have caused some problems.
Rosler had his good points (he knew how to get the best out of the players he inherited & was the best thing to happen to Gomez) but these were outnumbered by his faults the longer his reign went on & for me they were:
Squad rotation – made too many changes apparently for changes sake. Only my opinion but as well as he did rescuing the Coyle season we could & should have got more points than we did as I think sometimes it cost us games that were there for the taking. I also think that players not knowing whether they were likely to be playing from week to week no matter how well they performed was a bigger factor in turning some of them against him than his discipline. I read a few of them in his first season saying that it took some getting used to or was difficult but he was getting the results. He continued it into his second season & when he wasn’t getting the results players & supporters turned on him
His signings – I remember saying to a mate at the QPR play off game that one of my biggest worries with him was the quality of his signings coz I hadn’t been impressed by any that he’d brought in up till that point & judging by the fact that he didn’t play most of them, neither did he. He was backed with significant money in the summer & he bought mostly players that he didn’t play & which the 2 managers after him didn’t play either &/or shipped out (though admittedly one of the drivers behind their departure was money Or lack of it)
His tactics – seemed more obsessed with what the other team might do than he was with the strengths of his own team. That seemed to work in “big games” like the City & Arsenal cup ties but not so well in the league especially when he had his squad as opposed to Bobby’s or Coyle’s. On top of that he never, ever came close to getting his team to adopt the style of play that he said he championed. In fact I never even saw evidence that he was trying to implement it & towards the end of his time he seemed to have changed tack & that he wanted his teams to play possession footballBy the time he was binned off the playing side of the club just seemed a complete & total shambles
I always think that was Chesterfield we played that night though that’s probably coz McGibbon also scored against them to seal the play off spot in 98/99.
My main memories against them are mainly at Layer Road. Dump of a place but you couldn’t half get a bit of atmosphere going under that tiny away stand.
2 games stick out:
One where Stefan Bidstrup absolutely ran the show (including scoring) in a 2-0 win in 2000ish
The other is a Friday night game a year or 2 earlier when Latics had a bit of a stinker, were losing 2-0 & the Colchester fans to the right of the away end were being right mouthy gits & getting on my waz. Kevin Sharp scored late on to give us a bit of hope & in my excitement to celebrate the goal plus give the Colchester fans a bit of stick back I didn’t realise that I’d grabbed hold of some fella’s shirt at the side of me & as I ran towards the home fans I ripped the pocket off the front of this guys shirt/jacket. He wasn’t best pleased & I had to make a sharp exit.
If he’s reading his – apologies!!From my experience, I’d echo what Standish said – Whilst it’s by no means all of them, I’ve never met a sports supporters so vitriolic in their feelings towards other sports.
I know people that watch play ice hockey, basketball, rugby union, netball & think they’re the best sports around, who don’t like or enjoy other sports but that’s it. They choose not to watch them & don’t froth at the mouth & the mention of other sports.
I can’t stand rugby union, so I don’t watch it & haven’t taken the slightest notice of the world cup but I don’t wind myself up about the coverage of itI think that there’s some truth, hinted at in the article, that league has been sneered at by the media & the more popular (internationally) rugby union in the past & it’s also true that (in the past) the media coverage of it has been poor comparative to attendances, both of which may have bred this attitude amongst many RL followers.
I also think though that they’re a very passionate lot about their sport as much as their personal teams & can’t understand why others aren’t which when combined with the above further fuels their fury against football & unionTimes have changed though with a lot of attitudes towards rugby league (outside of many Latics supporters at least) & I think the attitude of RL followers hasn’t on the whole
Back in the 80’s & 90’s the Cemetery End was the away end, been there a few times, remember one game where the CE was the away stand when it chucked it down (Boxing Day I think) and in that game sure Mark Leonard hit a shot from six yards out that hit a puddle and barely made it in the net and Neil Rimmer chipped the keeper from 30 yards, Latics fans celebrate, ball lands in puddle, keeper (Alan Kelly?) bends down and picks it up to the general astonishment of everyone in the groundTo this day, that remains one of the most entertaining games that I have ever been to. Proper end to end, blood, guts, thunder & mud football.
I always used his goal as an example of how poor Mark Leonard was – open goal, no-one between him & the net & about 6 yards out on a swimming pool of a pitch. All he had to do was kick the ball off the floor and he decides to side foot it along the deck with predictable results which allowed at least one (possibly 2) Bury players to get back & hack the ball away. I never thought that it had crossed the line to be honest but thankfully the liner had other ideas.
After that I don’t think he scored again for the best part of a year despite being our main forwardHe has spent a small fortune
He didn’t though really did he? From what I’ve heard of this transfer committee, the manager’s involvement is quite limited & (as far as I’m aware) this structure was the reason that Bobby didn’t take the job – Both said they wouldn’t work under their original proposed structure, they came back with an amended one, Bobby still said no but Brendan said that he’d work with it.
Part of the problem however appears to be that the owners still don’t see any issue with what they’ve put in place & who it has brought in (even though some of the players are cack) but feel that a different manager could get better out of the same players. That may well be true to some extent but they also need to look at themselves coz most Liverpool fans will tell you that even leaving some of Rodgers errors to one side many of the players the structure has brought in just aren’t good enough[/quote]
Yes I’ve heard all that talk too, but i’m sure I seem to recall Rogers saying in his early days that HE brought players in? Then about 12months ago he started saying WE (the committee) chose players?? Make up your own mind, but i’m pretty sure he would have had a say in it. Some clubs can over complicate a simple process..
His best season was with the team Dalglish’s left him. From what I’ve seen of them this season they could well finish below Chelsea :)[/quote]He was a member of this “committee” so he has to shoulder some of the blame as he has an input but it’s widely known that he didn’t have a veto or a leading role in it – I read on the BBC website on Monday that journalists know that signing Firmino for £29mill wasn’t a signing that Rodgers wanted & that at least 2 signings he did want (Ashley Williams & Ryan Bertrand) were knocked back by the committee
The whole committee set up was the reason Bobby wouldn’t go there & his history at Latics in effectively forcing Benson out of the door when he disagreed with his Boselli signing is indicative of how he wants full control over transfers & also that he wouldn’t have had that at Liverpool.
That said, some of Rodgers tactical decisions as his reign went on seemed to get more & more baffling & if I got a £7mill+ pay off from my current job they could blame me for anything as much as they wanted to
our club has become…Leon Clarke hits his 9th for Bury .Delort scores only goal for Caen to move them up to 3rd in French Prem,Waghorn having a field day in Scotland( Rangers would still dick us ) but granted that league is poor.Will we ever have a 20+ goal forward again or were Elington /Roberts the last ?Is it also partly because of the style of play we have adopted ,or just crap judgement ???
Did you not see Clarke play last season? He looked less potent than Fortune – and that really is an achievement.
When Caldwell took over he sent him back to Wolves because he was a trouble maker, and I’d suggest that 19 clubs in 11 years speaks volumes, plus his scoring record for most clubs has been woeful.
Delort, I didn’t rate as looked full of tricks and flicks but far too lightweight for the English game. His penchant for tweeting shirtless selfies and, by all accounts, his out-of-kilter ability to ego balance didn’t go down well at the club.
Waghorn was a decent player, but we couldn’t afford to keep him. He’s doing so well in Scotland because Rangers average 40,000 for home games and sign players from Wigan Athletic whilst other clubs average 2,000 and sign players from Barrow, Hayes & Yeading and Edinburgh University.
To put a bit of perspective on it: Rangers have scored 31 league goals this season – nearly 3 times more than any other team, and Waghorn has got 11 of those goals so far, but 7 of them have been penalties.
So basically, he’s got 4 from open play for one of Britain’s biggest clubs against non-league standard players.
Although I’d expect Rangers to beat us if they played us, I reckon it’d be a lot closer that you’re giving them credit for because other than the top 6 in the SPL, the standard in Scotland is pretty poor.[/quote]
What he said
He has spent a small fortuneHe didn’t though really did he? From what I’ve heard of this transfer committee, the manager’s involvement is quite limited & (as far as I’m aware) this structure was the reason that Bobby didn’t take the job – Both said they wouldn’t work under their original proposed structure, they came back with an amended one, Bobby still said no but Brendan said that he’d work with it.
Part of the problem however appears to be that the owners still don’t see any issue with what they’ve put in place & who it has brought in (even though some of the players are cack) but feel that a different manager could get better out of the same players. That may well be true to some extent but they also need to look at themselves coz most Liverpool fans will tell you that even leaving some of Rodgers errors to one side many of the players the structure has brought in just aren’t good enough
