TyldesleyLatic

is it really??
let’s not forget that when he was on loan at a club at Latics current level last season, Blackpool’s manager rarely started him & used him as an impact sub for the last 10 minutes or so & that was why Latics recalled him.
Similarly when he was at Wolves at the back end of the season they played 8 games after he joined. he started 1, was sub in 3, played no part in 4 games & scored 1 goal.
Yes he scored 5 in 5 for Rotherham this season, but that could well be a flash in the pan (that Macheda or whatever his name is got a glut when he first joined Doncaster on loan this season then the goals soon dried up) & it is also in League 1. We’ve all seen enough following latics up through the leagues to know that coz a player can hit a few in League 1 it’s no guarantee that he’ll get them when they step up a division.
At the end of the day, 3 Latics managers (4 if you include Barrow’s brief stint as caretaker) have had the chance to watch him in training & chuck him into the first team regularly & all of em have decided not to – that tells me everything I need to know
It may well be that he goes to Wolves, is a great success, they get promoted & he continues to score goals but as his contract is up in the summer, I’d have a guess that even if Latics were prepared to give him more time & had offered him a new deal that he said he would only sign if he was given first team football & it seems that after having watched him in training Rosler has decided either that a) he isn’t good enough or b) he isn’t ready for teh Championship, so he won’t sign a deal & therefore it is best for Latics that they cash in on him now

If someone was talking bollocks I should have guessed it would have been you!!!
We’ll have to agree to disagree coz neither of us can prove why Gomez isn’t at a club with better players. For me though the best players go to the best clubs hence why Gomez is at Latics & not a club higher up the footballing ladder. It’s why he didn’t make it at Barcelona & why a normally struggling top flight/yo yo club like Espanyol let him go. It’s also why when Latics star players have been cherry picked that he is still here. None of that is any disgrace to him but I just can’t buy into that he would thrive in a better team stuff as I think it’s more likely that his deficiencies would be exposed by having better players around him – in a similar way to how many of those who have been cherry picked or agitated for a move away haven’t quite been as successful as they would have hoped at their new clubs.
Not wanting to get into another one of our debates but surely by saying that the better teams have someone in the playmaker role who is better than him backs up my argument that Latics (or similar level clubs) are his level !!

Rosler said prior to the game that some players would be staying at home to ensure they were fit for Saturday

Reet, I’ve done a bit of research.

If you look on the FA standardised rules it says “A Player on Long Term Loan may not be recalled, except for a goalkeeper or where the Player is to be transferred permanently by the Club (or club) holding his registered
contract. A Player other than a goalkeeper so recalled cannot be permitted to play for the Club (or club) holding his registration after such recall until the end of the Playing Season. Players so recalled can only be replaced by a further Long Term Loan with permission from the Company.”
The standardised rules tend to be for lower league levels to use as a template for their competition rules

The Football League website says “Standard loans can be for a half season or full season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a standard loan can only be included in a full season standard loan & this can only be activated during the second (January) transfer window. Any other early termination of a standard loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing between both clubs & player but can only be completed after an expiry of 28 days and only during a transfer window”

So yes a loaning club can put a recall clause in a season long transfer but that can only be activated in January (apart from a keeper) unless both clubs & the player agree to one at a different time – in that instance I’m pretty certain that if United came in tomorrow & they said they wanted Powell back then he would go back as United may say they would not send any more Unietd players out to Latics at any point in the future

It’s Chris “Hutchings” not “Hutchins”
Who do you get to proof read this stuff???

Joanne from travel puzzle will e-mail you the details. She’s sent it me a couple of times – I’d forward it to you now but my phone only stores so many days e-mails so I can’t get to it (she sent it last around the time she have you my details)

Really? You should take a look on Facebook and Twitter. For most of them it is the only reason he received stick.[/quote]
Correct. He was doomed to failure from the minute he was even linked with the job.

Just ask Scoffy and his ‘ABC’ Facebook page.[/quote]

I think that’s only true in the sense that some people didn’t like him for his Bolton connections & were looking for his failures whilst ignoring the good that he did. In that sense it is similar to the fact that Martinez got less (open) stick than most other managers would have done at times during his reign coz he was a Latics legend
However in both cases, if Coyle had come out & his team were playing great football, performing well, scoring, getting good results then that wouldn’t have mattered. Bobby at times of most pressure was always able to pull one of results out of the bag or put a run together (or win a Cup!!) so the stick never reached mass open revolt.
It doesn’t hide the fact that for the most part Coyle was garbage & he would still be here of Whelan thought that he was the right man for the job & hadn’t (allegedly) come back from Barbados to find the playing side of the club in disarray coz lets not forget that there were times when some fans called for the head of Bobby & Jewell & Whelan’s response was that they were the right men for the job and if they were forced out he would leave
I don’t think the fans had much bearing on Coyle leaving