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The ‘believe ‘ song wasn’t played before the last game and rightfully so.
Seem to remember Whelan coming out once at half time with his trumpet and giving it a blast with some wigan brass band ( Wycombe at home december 2000 I think ), I only remember that because my lad was paraded on the pitch with his triumphant school team after they won a regional schools tournament.
maybe the charlton game will be the ONE I just keep hoping.Not scoring and now leaking goals by the bucket load with the form just getting worse both home and away.
Club struggling home and away? Oh great its wigan arhletic next and three easy points and a nice leg stretch!
The club has become a complete shambles in my view and sacking rosler now looks like the worst decision made at the club in many a year.
Bottom of the barrel to be reached when we hit league 2 !can’t see another win to be honest
Was in a New York bar in 2010 and a yank spouted off about Martinez and his players and what was wrong with latics,surreal really.
he later joined us on a pub crawl and tried to “get laid ” ( felt like I was in the film porkies) with some unfortunate bar worker near Times Square.Positives of league one
Big shiny ground -we will be able to attract better players
Parachute money-
Salary cap- can think of one person who will love this
Weare much bigger as a club than the one that left this division in 2003
Might win a few games hence more supportersNegatives
Every team will treat playing at our ( too) big shiny ground as a cup final and the home form will be as shit as this season.
Hoof ball
Lower attendances – kids stand looks dead now and the west even sparser- stand closed next season?
Trip to Coldham Athletic
Higher season ticket pricesFar too many to save this season Im afraid and after Saturday and seeing the ‘new look’ team against Bournemouth I’d be surprised if we pass the 30 point mark never mind suddenly find promotion form which I think will be needed to get out of this mess.
the real rot set in when they sacked Rosler and the home form deteriorated even further from picking up a point at least to a run of steady defeats and an air of defeatism as they step on the pitch.I reckon we would have had more points on the board had we stuck with Rosler and let him sort out the team but as it stands we have what we have and this team is just not good enough to survive in this division.
I hate being negative and have always tried to find positives in any situation but the table doesn’t lie and the two bottomplaces have been sorted in my opinion ,far too much ground to make up and far too many faults to correct at this late stage.
Dramatic rise ,dramatic fall.Looking more and more hopeless as the weeks go by.
I’d love us to get a win tonight but can’t see it,in fact I’d be surprised if we pass 30 points this season we are just so poor.
Sorry to be so negative but it looks a lost cause to me.The title of this post sums everything up as it is something we lack right across the pitch and it doesn’t matter how much huff and puff we put in this team is a pale shadow of the one that we had just 12 short months ago.
Yes there was more effort but we looked way off pace and at times you could have drove a bus through our midfield and defence regardless of the usual abject refereeing, a little more fight and effort for 25 minutes or so but we have seen that all season and it just isn’t enough in this division.
this season is dead and buried now as far as I’m concerned just cannot see us making up the required amount of points needed and to be honest we just are not good enough.Just can not understand what is so funny about going to Fleetwood. Agin just the attitude we have had to put up with since joining the league.totally understand that response given that when we were last in that division we averaged about 7000 each week however when we reached the Championship we suddenly moved up to around 11000 overnight.Fast forward two years later to the first premier league season and we averaged 21000 and even if you take away an average away support of say 4000 in the prem we gained about 10k supporters when we moved out of the bottom two divisions.
So I understand people moaning about possible trips to Fleetwood and Gillingham because they have never experienced it but supporting a football isn’t just about the good times you sometimes have to rough it .
We call them Jonny come latelys you know the types who jumped on when things were good ,a bloke who ( tosser btw) I know of lorded it when we hit the big time ,seats in the hospitality,mixing at all the club dos with the directors and wearing the kit and what have you.Went for a few seasons and played the big supporter but when things cut up rough he is nowhere to be seen and he doesn’t go anymore because sadly he and his ilk only think the premier league is where it’s at.
clever marketing for sure and I heard a pundit say the same thing on tv on Monday ” if you drop out of the premier league Thats.it” so basically you have to be in the premier league or consider your club is finished.
What a load of bollocks !!!!the last striker of any note to make an dramatic impact was Zaki who strangely ripped up trees for half a season then faded away without trace for the rest of it.I would hardly call Kone or Hugo failures either ( kone 11 goals in 33 and Hugo with several very important goals) it’s just good scouting rather than listening to sales talk from unscrupulous agents usually as the window closes.
Not sure who is to blame for this failure but the questions I would ask particularly for foreign signings would relate to the scouting reports and how often the players concerned were watched because surely that is a must if you are laying out millions of pounds.Didnt the club also ditch the youth policy during the fridge raiders time here ? How much money will that save in the future so the charnock richard site must get going soon to help our future.
We’re Delort and Rierra ever watched and were regular scouting reports received before the outlay of the transfer fees ?
it seems that Mackay has been scouting and even watched some of these players and he seems to be the first manager in some time to be actually going out to watch players himself so it will be interesting to see how these players settle in.Mackay don’t forget has had a reasonably successful management career so this is going to be a very interesting period regardless and I have a feeling he is signing players with a point to prove and i think the transfer business looks good on paper.
It’s a turning point and I for one am looking forward to watching this new look team on Saturday, have a weird feeling that it might just be our day.I agree I don’t think we can get out of this predicament now and we just have to be patient and take baby steps of which this was one and one ofthe Ipswich players was very complimentary on sky after the game.
interesting game next week,who ever would have thought a club like bloody Bournemouth would come here as odds on favourites to win??
Just the sort of game that Latics have thrived in over the years.Have a good feeling about this signing and yes chuck him straight in preferably with young Cosgrove and see what happens.
Been going since 1979 so I think I will carry on with my favourite hobby regardless ,what is going on at the moment is right for the football club.
Jackson has been honest and straight and he would be my choice as chairman should whelan step away a bit.
At least the club are thinking ahead,Dull city and QPR, Burnley et al could well be in the same position next year, at least we had a go and chased the dream after relegation,now it’s time to check the bank statements and cancel what we don’t need.
best decision the board have made this season,if the remains JCLS don’t like it then they may as well f@@k off!!!!!The events of the past few days have left me feeling sorry that we are saying goodbye to the golden era but relieved that we are facing up to the reality of the lower divisions and making sure we all have a club to support in the future.The players who have left would all have been on very high wages and with falling revenues and the loss by the week of all the johnny come latelys it’s time for some reshaping and planning for the future.
it’s reality and when you think a few of us were jumping through hoops when the club signed Ian Kilford for about 30 grand before Whelan came it just shows you how bad things were back then.
Time to close ranks and work hard on and off the pitch and believe it or not I’m actually feeling a little bit more positive about the future, rather have a football club to support than none at all.POSITIVE HEAD BACK ON
Chucking money at the situation has got us in this mess so bargain bucket hungry ,motivated and ambitious players will do for me all day long and given the appalling performances this season of some of our fading premier league ‘stars’ welcome to say the least.
we have absolutely nothing to lose now and maybe just maybe that will work in our favour if he brings in the right players who want to kick start their careers and fight what may be a lost cause but maybe it isn’t.
I have never felt so down as I have the last few days but the statement from Jackson last night in the paper was very honest and straight and some of us need to put the teddy back in the pram and cheer up and get behind the lads.
had to laugh at west brums website today and the excitement at signing Callum MC which shows how insular a league the premier league is.The fact is they think they have signed a ‘ nugget’ when we all know they most certainly haven’t and I for one wasn’t weeping any tears over his departure.
In fact I haven’t got any strong feelings about any of the departures to be honest at least the club is being realistic and honest about this situation.It will be interesting seeing him play for a motivating manager. For anyone to think CM can’t do it after watching him tear Premier League teams apart, I think you may be eating those words.
Everything has looked worse under the last couple of managers, everyone who has left will be a success elsewhere[/quote]
I don’t remember things being too bleak under Rosler this time last year and I certainly can’t think of too many games over the past few months that CM has excelled in or any of the others who have departed recently have either.
He needs to learn to pass the ball correctly,put a shift in for 90 minutes not 50 and he most certainly needs to look at his temperament if he is ever going to realise his potential.
a lot to learn however I have an awful feeling he will be a championship player again next season given the dreadful run in West BRUM have. -
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