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Revell for Rotherham on Saturday gave our defence (and the ref) a torrid time. I bet Mackay would give his right one for a player like that at the moment. I’d no idea who he was. He’s played for the might of Cambridge and Braintree but he was up for it and worked his nuts off all afternoon for them. That’s exactly what’s missing.
This is where I despair. What any of you know about the French 2nd division I could write on the back of a postage stamp.
It says more about the manager not fancying him, than him not actually being able to do it. It doesn’t mean he can’t cut it, Alex Ferguson didn’t fancy Paul Pogba or Gerard Pique.
So far in the first team he’s been asked to play the lone role up front with his back to goal. Would Stuart Barlow have been any good at that, without Simon Haworth for instance?
The lad is a sniffer, a rat, he’ll score, given opportunities.
To write him off is totally foolish.Revell for Rotherham on Saturday gave our defence (and the ref) a torrid time. I bet Mackay would give his right one for a player like that at the moment. I’d no idea who he was. He’s played for the might of Cambridge and Braintree but he was up for it and worked his nuts off all afternoon for them. That’s exactly what’s missing.Oh dear lord.
The lad is a sniffer, a rat, he’ll score, given opportunities.
To write him off is totally foolish.I’ve seen him have several and miss them all.
Please feel free to educate me on the French second division though as you’re right I don’t know much about it, but considering Ligue 1 isn’t very good I’m not expecting Ligue 2 to be the equivalent of the Bundesliga.
What I’m saying is Revell is a scrapper and a grafter and that’s exactly what we need. Delort does not fall into that category.
I would suggest that we now need to win games and we don’t do that playing with McClean up top on his own and then resorting to 2 lads up there for the last 10 when we’re losing.
I have been advocating Riera and Delort but I doubt he’ll go with that. He may go Fortune on his own against Leeds, I’d prefer Riera with him up top at the very least, someone has to be on who can score.
You don’t get out of this with that luxury midfield so that needs breaking up. Part of me wants to pot Callum to the bench but there’s always that chance he can create something.
I think Kvist could be someone to get back in, just so the likes of McCann get forward.
I’m even considering Captain Calamity could be the answer at the back for some much needed experience of a dogfight. New lows reached.Are Waghorn and Ramis ever coming back? They could be what keeps us up or takes us down imo.
I still don’t think playing two up front is the answer – and certainly not if we’re playing four in midfield.
I can understand (in theory) why McClean is being started up front – because he will chase defenders down and pressurise them into mistakes or win the ball from them, and with his pace, if the ball is played through gaps in the middle or to his feet in space, he’ll out-sprint most defenders.
The problem on Saturday was, the midfield didn’t have enough of a grip on the game to create those chances, and half the balls played forwards were at McClean’s head.
Saying that though, I thought Fortune played well when he came on, and there was a marked improvement in the team.[/quote]
Totally agree with that statement. What some tend to forget is that in the old 442 formation it was heavily reliant on one of those strikers to continually be in the box, which to me effectively takes him out of the game for large parts – a luxury no team can afford in the modern game. Having said that, I have mentioned in the past that we should still retain the option of changing to a 442 formation during a game as part of a tactic ‘in the locker’ but changing back out of it if not working. At the moment a 4231 formation has been the best we have put out there so far.
I think it is only the top clubs who have been blessed with a good striker who get that great return of goals that everyone wants, the rest of us have to make do with goals from our lone striker (if at all possible) and from attacking midfielders – what some people forget is that Celtic played Maloney as a striker so he knows the position and should cut his cloth accordingly.
As for the midfield on Saturday, I thought it was slowed down by Watson who has reverted back to his old ways of not looking forward – his short free kicks were extremely frustrating.
For me, I too agree that Fortune played well when he came on and that it is for the likes of McClean, Maloney, McManaman and/orMcCann to contribute to the shots on target stats.
As for the thread title – Ive never heard anything so ridiculous in quite some time.
You’ll soon have one back in Holt and I’m sure he’ll be the first name on Malkys team sheet.
Revell is a dog and if that is your idea of what we should be doing, I’d point you in the direction of Ashton Athletic to get your fix.
Egg, how can you say that the French Ligue 1 is no good, when you’ve got PSG, Marseille, Lyon etc there’s competition all of the way through the league and into the 2nd division, with some decent teams. My point is it all sounds like football snobbery, I don’t know much about it to slag it off but neither do you and you are.
Delort was joint top goalscorer in the division (26) with a team which finished 10th, the lad who joint top scored with him was promoted with Caen and has scored 6 in 15 starts. A lad who scored 20 times, called Sakho, is now at West Ham in our Premier League and this is taken from his Wiki page:
On 26 August, he scored his first competitive goal for the club against Sheffield United in the second round of the League Cup.[6] Sakho’s first League goal came on 15 September in a 2–2 away draw against Hull City. Initially credited as an own goal by Hull defender Curtis Davies, the goal was later awarded to Sakho.[7] He made his home debut against Liverpool on 20 September, and scored his second goal with a chip over goalkeeper Simon Mignolet as the Hammers won 3–1.[8] On 29 September Sakho scored in a 2–1 away defeat by Manchester United. This was his fourth goal in his first four starts for the club, breaking a 26 year-old record previously held by Leroy Rosenior.[9] On 25 October 2014 Sakho scored West Ham’s second goal in a 2-1 home win against reigning champions, Manchester City. In doing so he became the first West Ham player to score in six straight Premier League games and matched Micky Quinn’s Premier League record, set in 1992, of scoring in his first six starts.[10][11] For his performances, Sakho was awarded the Premier League Player of the Month for October 2014, with his manager Sam Allardyce named Manager of the Month.[12]Revell is a dog and if that is your idea of what we should be doing, I’d point you in the direction of Ashton Athletic to get your fix.I wouldn’t want his finesse, just his spirit would do for now in some of our more talented individuals.
I would suggest that we now need to win games and we don’t do that playing with McClean up top on his own and then resorting to 2 lads up there for the last 10 when we’re losing.
I have been advocating Riera and Delort but I doubt he’ll go with that. He may go Fortune on his own against Leeds, I’d prefer Riera with him up top at the very least, someone has to be on who can score.
You don’t get out of this with that luxury midfield so that needs breaking up. Part of me wants to pot Callum to the bench but there’s always that chance he can create something.
I think Kvist could be someone to get back in, just so the likes of McCann get forward.
I’m even considering Captain Calamity could be the answer at the back for some much needed experience of a dogfight. New lows reached.Are Waghorn and Ramis ever coming back? They could be what keeps us up or takes us down imo.
I still don’t think playing two up front is the answer – and certainly not if we’re playing four in midfield.
I can understand (in theory) why McClean is being started up front – because he will chase defenders down and pressurise them into mistakes or win the ball from them, and with his pace, if the ball is played through gaps in the middle or to his feet in space, he’ll out-sprint most defenders.
The problem on Saturday was, the midfield didn’t have enough of a grip on the game to create those chances, and half the balls played forwards were at McClean’s head.
Saying that though, I thought Fortune played well when he came on, and there was a marked improvement in the team.[/quote]
Totally agree with that statement. What some tend to forget is that in the old 442 formation it was heavily reliant on one of those strikers to continually be in the box, which to me effectively takes him out of the game for large parts – a luxury no team can afford in the modern game. Having said that, I have mentioned in the past that we should still retain the option of changing to a 442 formation during a game as part of a tactic ‘in the locker’ but changing back out of it if not working. At the moment a 4231 formation has been the best we have put out there so far.
I think it is only the top clubs who have been blessed with a good striker who get that great return of goals that everyone wants, the rest of us have to make do with goals from our lone striker (if at all possible) and from attacking midfielders – what some people forget is that Celtic played Maloney as a striker so he knows the position and should cut his cloth accordingly.
As for the midfield on Saturday, I thought it was slowed down by Watson who has reverted back to his old ways of not looking forward – his short free kicks were extremely frustrating.
For me, I too agree that Fortune played well when he came on and that it is for the likes of McClean, Maloney, McManaman and/orMcCann to contribute to the shots on target stats.
As for the thread title – Ive never heard anything so ridiculous in quite some time.[/quote]
I’ll bet you a pound to a penny I have Dave
Revell is a dog and if that is your idea of what we should be doing, I’d point you in the direction of Ashton Athletic to get your fix.
I wouldn’t want his finesse, just his spirit would do for now in some of our more talented individuals.[/quote]
And we can get that without HIM, it’s just down to the manager if he’s got owt about him.
Listen I want to be proved wrong starting from Boxing day, to the end of the season but I fear we’ll be doing a lot of toing and froing. Me after the manager and you lot after the players but if it carry’s on we’ll be relegated no matter what and the manager will go unless he gets his finger out and motivates these lot starting with his team selection.
Egg, how can you say that the French Ligue 1 is no good, when you’ve got PSG, Marseille, Lyon etc there’s competition all of the way through the league and into the 2nd division, with some decent teams. My point is it all sounds like football snobbery, I don’t know much about it to slag it off but neither do you and you are.I base it on the fact that they tend to struggle in European competition. PSG look the best of the bunch in the Champs League but with the money they’ve spent should be.
Revell is a dog and if that is your idea of what we should be doing, I’d point you in the direction of Ashton Athletic to get your fix.
I wouldn’t want his finesse, just his spirit would do for now in some of our more talented individuals.[/quote]
And we can get that without HIM, it’s just down to the manager if he’s got owt about him.
Listen I want to be proved wrong starting from Boxing day, to the end of the season but I fear we’ll be doing a lot of toing and froing. Me after the manager and you lot after the players but if it carry’s on we’ll be relegated no matter what and the manager will go unless he gets his finger out and motivates these lot starting with his team selection.[/quote]
I think you’ll find that you are already behind the drag curve on that one already.
I would suggest that we now need to win games and we don’t do that playing with McClean up top on his own and then resorting to 2 lads up there for the last 10 when we’re losing.
I have been advocating Riera and Delort but I doubt he’ll go with that. He may go Fortune on his own against Leeds, I’d prefer Riera with him up top at the very least, someone has to be on who can score.
You don’t get out of this with that luxury midfield so that needs breaking up. Part of me wants to pot Callum to the bench but there’s always that chance he can create something.
I think Kvist could be someone to get back in, just so the likes of McCann get forward.
I’m even considering Captain Calamity could be the answer at the back for some much needed experience of a dogfight. New lows reached.Are Waghorn and Ramis ever coming back? They could be what keeps us up or takes us down imo.
I still don’t think playing two up front is the answer – and certainly not if we’re playing four in midfield.
I can understand (in theory) why McClean is being started up front – because he will chase defenders down and pressurise them into mistakes or win the ball from them, and with his pace, if the ball is played through gaps in the middle or to his feet in space, he’ll out-sprint most defenders.
The problem on Saturday was, the midfield didn’t have enough of a grip on the game to create those chances, and half the balls played forwards were at McClean’s head.
Saying that though, I thought Fortune played well when he came on, and there was a marked improvement in the team.[/quote]
Totally agree with that statement. What some tend to forget is that in the old 442 formation it was heavily reliant on one of those strikers to continually be in the box, which to me effectively takes him out of the game for large parts – a luxury no team can afford in the modern game. Having said that, I have mentioned in the past that we should still retain the option of changing to a 442 formation during a game as part of a tactic ‘in the locker’ but changing back out of it if not working. At the moment a 4231 formation has been the best we have put out there so far.
I think it is only the top clubs who have been blessed with a good striker who get that great return of goals that everyone wants, the rest of us have to make do with goals from our lone striker (if at all possible) and from attacking midfielders – what some people forget is that Celtic played Maloney as a striker so he knows the position and should cut his cloth accordingly.
As for the midfield on Saturday, I thought it was slowed down by Watson who has reverted back to his old ways of not looking forward – his short free kicks were extremely frustrating.
For me, I too agree that Fortune played well when he came on and that it is for the likes of McClean, Maloney, McManaman and/orMcCann to contribute to the shots on target stats.
As for the thread title – Ive never heard anything so ridiculous in quite some time.[/quote]
GRIFF IN TOTALLY AGREEING WITH ITEWASBACKINTHEDAY SHOCKER!!
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