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I’ll repeat Scholes Control is a maggot :lol:
As soon as you resorted to insults you lost. The fact you are repeating those insults is only digging a deeper hole for yourself. You are simply making yourself looking more foolish and impotent by the second. Incidentally, I don’t mind being call a maggot as a maggot is used to catch fish. And looks like I caught a real whopper here
8-)Scholes Control would have you as an hors d’oeuvre, as they say in Perpignan
That is one of the funniest things I have ever read on the internet.Scholes Control argues like a maggot hiding under a stone.His views are about as much use as Horc’s verbal $hit.Both of them are JCL’s who will drop latics quicker than a beech hill girl drops her knickers.[/quote]
I’ll keep this brief
If insults are all you have to offer you have lost. You’ve lost it big time and everyone on here can see it.
Insults are the last resort actions of a chancer who has failed miserably to put any conviction behind his words, mainly because we are all as humans incapable of being something we are not for a prolonged period of time.
At least your pal from the rugby board Rogues Gallery can debate like an adult, this was a response more suited to the schoolyard
It’s probably best not to argue with the rugby hooligans any more, the yobs will probably assault you with a lunchbox or throw ale over you if you don’t agree with them.
It’s not a one off either, they’ve been acting up all season. They might not be the town’s top sporting attraction any more, but there’s one crown they’ve DEFINITELY taken.
Wigan Goon Squad beware, the Ellgren Elite have taken your manor :shock:
But back to your question as to why Wigan has not produced an international footballer since 1995….Its 15 years on, and there should be someone lurking in your youth team that is of international standard. Its 9 years since you bought your way into the Championship and 6 years since you entered the premier league. That means you have been relatively high-profile for 9 years. So the talented 8 year old in 2001 will now be a very talented 17 year old about to burst onto the stage with Wigan.
Except we wait and wait, and meanwhile money is spent on other clubs’ talented youngsters (Moses).
Wigan is a football town that simply doesnt produce footballers. In its 80,000 population, there is not a single top-flight professional player of any note that hails from Wigan, yet there is one of the largest and longest running youth leagues run from Wigan (The one that Burnley-supporting vicar founded). I remember him from when I was growing up, and in all that time, the best that has come from Wigan is Andy Bloody Griffin and Gary Walsh.
Why doesnt it produce quality footballers? In my opinion its because the kids in Wigan are not “hungry” enough to want it. The “better yourself” society that the rest of the country has embraced seems to have bypassed Wigan, leaving it in a time-warp. Is that good? Is it hell.
I’d hate to be bringing my kids up in Wigan in the 21st Century.
Fair play to you there mutty, I wouldn’t normally give you credit because everyone knows the main reason you come on here is to stir it but what you’ve said is absolutely spot on. The added complication in Wigan is that kids are forced/encourage delete as appropriate to play rugby in many schools and of course the council has for many decades encouraged it, offered subsidies to local rugby clubs and trips to oz while football changing rooms get burned down and never get re-built. Lots of lads at Fisher were good footballers even though they only played after school, played decent Sat & Sunday league but at RL represented the county and country in some cases, they weren’t born great RL players they had it coached into them at school. There’s no denying that the popularity of rugby in the town will result in fewer footballers being produced – which is no doubt the bite/answer you were looking for
But even if you look up the road at Bolton, they used to produce loads of international footballers, Alan Ball, Paul Mariner, Franny Lee etc. They had a top flight football club before WAFC existed and they’re just doing the same as Latics now, importing left, right and centre and sending what youngsters they do bring through out on loan until they release them.
There have been young footballers coming out of Wigan but the big clubs of Liverpool and Manchester sweep em out and dump them in their academies at a ridiculously young age. The academies are also full of foreigners now who make the grade because they as you say are hungrier than their English counterparts who get lost in the system and dumped on scrapheap
but none of this has got anything to do with why so many Warriors fans come from out of town ;)
Your first game will be away – FACT!You will no doubt be right mutty. The football club, even though it brings in ten times the revenue of it’s lodger, is still generally considerate of it’s neighbours requirements
Wigan Athletic will have accommodated Wigan Rugby by agreeing to ask for an away game first, even though this potentially puts us at a disadvantage as our home form is miles better than our away form.
Now remind me again, what happened when Wigan Rugby got told they couldn’t play at home on a certain date. Death threats to Whelan – and talk of mass protests – none of which didn’t come off because rugby fans are all piss and wind. :roll:
Firstly Rogues Gallery, the thread was about where Wigan Warriors FANS come from, nothing to do with where the players come from but seeing as you were unable to respond with any sort of defence on that argument, let’s take a look at the irrelevant point that you have decided to bring out into this forum
So here is the squad in full.
England Academy: Matthew Russell (Wigan Warriors); Ryan King (Wigan Warriors), Tom Makinson (capt, St Helens), Iain Thornley (Wigan Warriors), Jack Murphy (Wigan Warriors); Cain Southernwood (Bradford Bulls), Sam Powell (Wigan Warriors); George Burgess (Bradford Bulls), Adam Milner (Castleford Tigers), Carl Forster (St Helens) Danny Bridge(Wigan Warriors), Jared Stewart (Leeds Rhinos), James Laithwaite (Warrington Wolves). Interchange Adam O`Brien (Bradford Bulls), Ryan Shaw (Warrington Wolves), Brad Singleton (Leeds Rhinos), Greg Burke (Wigan Warriors)
I think “WN/WA postcodes and part of West Yorkshire” would be more appropriate as to call it an M62 corridor teams suggests representation from the likes of Liverpool, Manchester etc
To call this representative of England implies that there are hundreds of thousands of 17 year old Geordies, Brummies, Bristolians, Londoners, East Midland folk, East Anglians, Devonians, and Home Counties kids sat at home crying in their Paramatta kits because they didn’t make this elite cut “ooh if only we were from Wigan, I’m really envious of their rugby league skills”‘ when in reality it warrants the same level of interest as lacrosse, softball or cheese rolling in most areas of the country.
All this tells us is that are a disproportionate number of Wiganers in a team playing a joke sport which 99% of this country (and the world ignores)
I would say that is a source of intense embarassment to the sport of RL in general rather than any local pride that there is such a narrow gene pool to call upon to play this that deadheads like you keep telling us is so wonderful.
It’s not and you’ve just proved it and got egg all your face again
Get over it fatboy :lol:
Or maybe it was because Wigan was hosting a Community Rugby Festival where teams from all over North-West England were attending.
What was the score by the way?Thanks for the link but it doesn’t really explain, the community event took place before the game. So why where all these people coming in from out of town at past 2 o’clock, less than an hour before kick off??
And why are the roads into Wigan full of out of towners jammed before every Friday night game when there isn’t a community rugby event on?
What was the score by the way?In a franchised sport where there is no relegation and the champion can be a team who can finish as low as eighth in the table, does the score even matter?
The home bit wont be right as the rugby are at home on the night before.
Maybe we should form a protest group, issues death threats and throw human excrement at Whelan as the rugby lot would no doubt do if they got told they couldn’t play a home game when they wanted to :lol:
I had to go to Lancaster today about 2-ish and headed up to the M6 through Shevy and it was backed up all the way back to the motorway. When I’ve had a pint after work in Liverpool on a Friday there’s always 2 mile queues coming off the M58 and it was the same a few years ago when I worked in Warrington coming through Marus Bridge.
Very few rugby fans come from Wigan, they come from everywhere but and they reach out ( with cheapo tickets ) to middle class Lancashire & cheshire families who want to see some working class idiots rough each other up in tight costumes
It’s the only way they’ve been able to save face as thousands more go watching football in the town by dragging in 40% of their support from elsewhere. Clever I’ll give them that ;)
Then why not annonce the 23 man squad the day before our first game?
Theres probably a few reasons.
1 i can think of is for the players sake. Theres 7players from the original squad not going so instead of letting them wait until 1 day before the world cup starts they give them a week in advance. So the 23men can start to gel together and bond etc. Also FIFA says so….[/quote]
All of the 32 countries have only sent there 23 man squad to South Africa, except South Africa,.[/quote]Is that because they haven’t picked it or because they are already there :|
Just seen that the cheapest adult season ticket at Blackpool is £359 :oTheir fans will pay it. They know how lucky they are as a lower league club to enjoy a season of top flight football playing against teams they never thought they would play in a league fixture.
Six years on at Latics and all our fans are moaning because we aren’t beating these teams we never dreamed we would be playing and threatening not to renew because we only just stayed up
I only hope concerning those on here and elsewhere who say they aren’t renewing next year it’s a case of “empty vessels making most noise” and for every person who doesn’t renew we have two more enthusiastic, positive supporters getting a season ticket for the first time in their place ;)