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Everyones only outraged cos its bolton
Not so. When the EFL support cheating then I am outraged. I was outraged with Leicester in the past who won a promotion to the greed league. I was similarly outraged with blue eyed boys Pompey who went into admin and ripped off people for Millions. Over and over again this has happened and sometimes clubs have bounced back then they’re sinking in Greed League money but past debts are still not payed back because it had been written off by the club going into admin.
So all this melodrama has cost them twelve points for going into admin and they have a new owner who get the club for basically paying back creditors one third of what they are owed. This sounds oh so wrong. Bloody disgusting.
The the main reason they have survived and the very reason that Horwich are still in existence is because of the support from the EFL and they would ensure that they survived any similar melodramas in the future.
Back one club to the hilt and sit back and watch another sink just down the road is dispicable and no football supporter in the country should have any faith in them unless they are an Horwich fan.
Now come on EFL No extension of transfer window a points deduction for the two missed games and a transfer embargo and if not you are just cementing the bias and support you have given these rogues.
Come on business and trade do not deal with these who have cheated others out of millions with the 35p in the pound nonsense. Just do not trade with this bunch of charlatans.
Come on PFA call in your £2 million loan immediately.Cant believe some of you are actually ecstatic over their potential demise. Look! I hate & detest them as much as the next latics fan. All it takes is for the IEC to get bored with us & pull out, & where will that leave us????If this Horwich melodrama had have been us we would have been closed down months ago at the first HMRC court hearing. We certainly would not have been given so many chances and opportunities that Horwich have had. Even if we had bluffed the tax man and other creditors we wouldn’t have been starting this season with a potential new owner who has no money and who have to borrow from the players union. We wouldn’t have been allowed all the leeway that stretched on untill a new owner had bought another more profitable part of a business and we would not have been allowed to postpone games willy Billy. Above all we would not have been given permission to start a season without a squad.
They WILL be saved make no mistakeObvious they will, they are not called North Ferriby or Newport County or Maidstone or for that matter Rotherham.
Still need a 24 point deduction and at least a five year transfer embargo for all the manipulation and cheating they have done. Expulsion from the league even and made to apply again at the bottom of the non league pyramid.It must be one hell of a good hotel because it seems that’s all anyone interested in. I wonder what goes on in there?
But without a club surely the hotel can’t that profitable can it?Near a motorway junction not far from Manchester.
Marketed right it could be profitable, not to mention the conference trade.[/quote]I feel I can interject here, having some experience of the UOB Stadium and hotel. Hope this is of interest.
The hotel does a lot of business with conferences, and up until April at least, it was full around 3 or 4 nights a week. Mostly conference guests, but also large tour groups, some who were football team groups on tours through Bolton’s ‘International Football Programme’, and other groups. From Australia, America and the Far East. Coming over to play games at clubs academys and have tours of Old Trafford, Anfield and the Etihad.
Weekend events held in the Lion Of Vienna Suite, Platinum Suite, and the Premier Suite, such as weddings, bridal fairs, collectors fairs, and Boxing Events. Occasional ‘Audiences with’ events, such as Pele, Paul Gascoigne, Geoff Hurst, Tyson Fury, Tony Bellew, etc.The hotel was/is operating as a good going concern. In fact, it was considered that it was only this that was keeping the Football Club going, with any money the place made being put into the Football Club. The knock on effect of this is the hotel has gone downhill in decor etc and does seriously need money spending on it. The lifts were continuously taking turns at breaking down. The boilers were continuously playing up. The leisure suite needs renovating…the pool needs retiling…an expensive job with the pool having to be emptied. (When Bassini was shown around, he was amazed it had got so bad)
Carpets and decor in rooms and all areas need re-doing. I dont know what state the bar and kitchens are in, they were Heathcote’s responsibility and they had their contract ripped up a few weeks ago. The ‘Pure Bar’ was only renovated a year or so ago, and isnt bad. So if Bolton then took over kitchen and bar operations directly, as I believe they did, I don’t know how they found the funds to replace equipment and stock.
I think they are valuing the hotel at around 7.5 mil. I would say it probably needs a few million spending on it as well. Last year, the hotel stayed open when it shouldnt have done. The emergency lighting was broken and this contravened health and safety. One night, it stayed open and the fire alarm system had a fault on it that meant it couldnt ring out. Should’ve closed that night.I’ve always thought the best thing would be a chain like Best Western taking it over and doing it up. For a long time, the fact its built onto a football stadium was a major selling point. Ironically, in the current situation, that has become an Albatross around its neck. Would any major chain want an hotel built into a potentially redundant/vacant football stadium? No.
And if anybody but the same group who were to buy the football club purchased it, it would then have a detrimental effect on the Football Club, with its biggest source income lost.
A year ago, they also hosted two big concerts, by the Killers, and then Little Mix, the following night. The receipts taken within the stadium for each of those concerts, were something like four times the amount they would average for a league game. (Food and drink kiosk sales). You know those large sized, red indistrial waste bins? At The Killers gig, they filled 47 of them with empty bottles alone.
But when it came to paying the money owed to SJM Concerts after these events, Bolton still owe them money, around £250.000, I think. They shot themselves in the foot with this. Those two concerts earned them one million pounds each night. Bon Jovi and Take That were scheduled to appear there this year…but SJM Concerts pulled them, over the money owed, and Anfield stepped in, instead. (Darren Royle tried to get the Take That gig to the DW. We now have concert licencing, I believe.)
So, its hard to have sympathy for Bolton the club, although thats not their fans fault. Repeatedly burning bridges by not paying for things…you can’t work like that. There are more guilty people there than Ken Anderson, I have to say that. There are quite a few people within that club, and hotel, who gladly went along with all this nonsense when it was all running along. The arrogance around the place from a lot of these people who still think they are some great, respected, old lady of English football, was quite staggering.And they have dragged this out so, so long now. Burned more bridges, tried everybody’s patience, massively, and messed people around so much. I can’t believe Phil Parkinson lasted so long. He aged about 10 years in 6 months. When even some their most diehard supporters are saying they just want it all to be over now, and need to start again, its just shows you.
I really think this IS it, this time. In a way, as a football supporter I do think its sad. Its a club that’s dying a most undignified, unsavoury death. One that you wouldnt even wish on your worst enemy. Football, or no football.[/quote]
Just a week since you left forever Vat. Welcome back again.Well that is what happened last season with bacon saving wins coming at the right time like the Blackburn and Villa wins.
So it’s Ken’s turn to get the blame. What about F.V. who have dragged this out so they get the hotel as well. These ones already owe the PFA two million quid to finance things.
It could quite easily be any club while football is run and financed like it is. It oviouslly starts at the very top with the vulgar salaries players are paid and this just trickles down the system.
Both decent and unscrupulous owners own clubs as if it’s a status symbol and for God knows many other reasons.
The souls of most clubs have been ripped out and rather than be a part of communities that local people followed clubs have become no more than sales and marketing tools.
Do any clubs actually stand on their own feet anymore? No us included need much more cash to run and support the many ongoing cash drains that clubs all carry nowadays.
If Horwich do go pop it could very well be a relief for the fans who could regroup and reform their club from scratch. If not they will just go back into the same situation as before.
Over 150 staff have been reliant on Horwich for jobs. Now how can that be cost effective on crowds of less than 15000 last season for 23 matches. It just isn’t especially with the ridiculous salary demands of football players coaches and management.I don’t think he will go before the next game but if we lose that one he will be on his bike.
If he goes now/tomorrow then that means only one game under a caretaker manager with the international break. That could give the owners three weeks to find someone else (if they aren’t already sorting that)[/quote]
They have, Unsworth. Well there’s been rumours of that since last season and the Everton connection.
Bloody Everton connection FFS. Doesn’t seem that long since we beat them playing at the same level.
