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is it not time to grow up Chris FFS.
When in Rome…
I love getting under your skin Griff, don’t like it much do you?You’ve still not convinced me that you have any idea what the Chief Execs role is. :huh:
From the comments made by some on here, its the easiest job in the world to do. You can make decisions, but are not accountable for them, I wouldn’t mind some of that. :cheer:
As for the yellow wet floor signs, I don’t put them down, I get somebody else to do that. Must try harder Griff my old bean! :lol:Isn’t it funny how people always resort to the “I was only on the wind-up” or “I was only trying to get under your skin” defence when they realise that everyone thinks they’re being a complete tit?
I have no inclination whatsoever to ‘convince’ you what I know or don’t know about a CEO’s role, at Wigan Athletic, elsewhere in football or in business and industry in general. Anyway, I am convinced you haven’t the intellectual capacity to take it on board even if I did.
Just for the record, for my part, I wasn’t trying to wind you up. I was seriously trying to point out how stupid you were being. My work here is done, I think.
Thank you garswoodI wasn’t having a pop, I genuinely wasn’t sure
Biggest myth in sporting history there is more people in the town of wigan who watch and support football than rugby league and that is a factI can’t work out whether you mean that more support football than rugby or the other way round
It could be worse. We could’ve trudged off a sports field having been deemed not good enough to stay in that division twice in the space of 24 months, facing a mass exodus of playing staff without having a youth system in place to replace them. We could have had as many first team coaches as home wins in an entire season. We could be looking at having row upon row of seats closed off because there is nobody to sit on them any more. We could have a chairman who’s only other business venture was a failed chip shop. We could have an owner who hired a head coach that no other club would touch with the shittiest stick going.On the face of it, elimination from the Challenge Cup is disappointing, but its not half as bad as being a Latics fan.
Think somebody’s had a nerve touched, haven’t they?
Don’t be knob! The Warrior are not even a big fish in the world’s smallest sporting pond anymore.
You can come on here as much as you want to claim that the rugby is bigger than Latics but the reality is that, even in the 3rd tier of English football, week in week out, home and away, Latics will still be a better supported club.
I know it, everyone one here knows it, neutrals know it and so do you if you could only stop yourself spouting the bullshit for five minutes and admit it.
Oh, and this is coming from someone who supports both Wigan teams.
The turnout was small because it is a 2-bus journey to Leigh from Wigan apparently, so too difficult to get to.
You really couldn’t make it up.
Oh dear, this is far too easy, but I’ll give it a go anyway….
Is that the same 350 fans who have been getting pish wet through for the past 10 years, come on Griff think your responses through before engaging the send button you nerd?. :lol:
Unlike you, I’m sure the 350 would have had the common sense to work out if they would get wet or not. This move has got fek all to do with that, the fans have not been consulted and have chosen to renew their seats every season, knowing full well they will probably get wet and for many games, get blinded by the sun that hovers over the West.I rest my case. Couple of words there that don’t really belong in that paragraph, given the other highlighted nonsense you wrote.
As for Dave Whelan being solely responsible for appointing managers over the past 20 years, then yes he will have rubber stamped every one, but actually selected them all himself?.Yes, you totally deluded bellend! Of course he has!!!
This is getting sooooo funny, do you actually know what the role is of the Chief Executive of any organisation?, perhaps not if you have always been hanging onto the bottom of the page of your organisation’s Management Structure. :PAnd now, you are really making yourself look silly. Why don’t you just carry on putting out your yellow “Caution! Wet Floor” signs after you’ve mopped up and leave conversations about chief executives to the grown-ups and clever people?
We beat City and we beat Man U,
We beat Everton and we beat Liverpoo’,
We beat Arsenal and we beat Chelsea,
We’re Wigan Athletic….F.C.Not many fans can sing this song in Div One.
So scenario for new season is Promotion, FA Cup run, League Cup run, Johnstones Paint Shield winners. Hurry up pre-season friendlies this close season is dragging on.
To the knockers who say we cant achieve those four objectives, well if you don’t dream it you will never achieve it. We have literally dreamed one dream so let us all dream again and we will get whatever we want. If you want to drag us down with your negative thoughts then that’s precisely where your negative thoughts will take us.
Pamela Anderson… she has her knockers
… but ask your CE if you have one, what he would expect happen to him if the company he managed went down the pon through hiring poor managers.?If you think that anyone other than Dave Whelan had any real say in the appointment of any Wigan Athletic manager in the last 20 years, then I will have to revise up my opinion of how deluded and thick you actually are.
Me, being called thick as pig shit by you! Oh, the irony!
I know you are thick as pig shyte, but ask your CE if you have one, what he would expect happen to him if the company he managed went down the pon through hiring poor managers.?Collective shyte egh? :lol:
Let’s add that to the ever-growing list of things you get wrong then, shall we.
350 season ticket holders have been asked to move from a seat that gets pissed on when it rains to anyone of about 11,000 others to choose from. Your capacity to get hysterical about the smallest little thing never ceases to amaze me.
Yeah very sustainable, That’s why we can’t pay transfer fee’s for anyone and keep selling any player on any kind od decent wage. All those hundreds of millions that were made and now all of a sudden wages can no longer be paid.
:- I said Dave Whelan would walk if Latics weren’t promoted within the parachute payments and every asset will be sold – I was right
:- I said the club would end up in a far worse state than when he arrived, it’s starting to look as if i am right.
:- When it becomes obvious that David Sharpe can’t get the club back Granddad will tell him to take what he can and walk
:- Wigan Athletic will eventually get to the stage where they can’t afford the rent and will eventually get kicked out of the stadium. Anyone who thinks this isn’t possible because Uncle Dave said they will always play there, long term lease etc blah blah. He has never screwed any business over that doesn’t turn a profit has he?
:- Ground sharing at Leigh Sports Village looking forward to local derbies with FC United and Stockport.
I presume you’re fishing Yosser, but I’ll humour you and bite:
- Yes is it very sustainable. You buy young players, develop them, and sell them on for a profit. It’s how Crewe and to a lesser extent, Middlesbrough have operated for years. If/when the new training ground and academy is finished, this can be used as a farm for young players as we simply do not have the resources to buy a new squad every season.
- When have wages not been paid? I think you’re confusing Wigan with someone like Leeds or Portsmouth who were poorly financially managed.
- The hundreds of millions have gone on the running of the club, servicing debts, and paying players’ wages (all of which available to read the club’s published accounts)
- Whelan walked because of his monumental cock-up in appointing and attempting to support Mackay. Nothing to do with not winning promotion.
- Whelan hasn’t made a profit from the club. What he got from his association with the club was the chance to get in front of the TV cameras at the drop of a hat, and once he’d made himself look silly and nobody wanted his views anymore, that’s when he decided to quietly slip away into the background.
- And if he has left with parachute payments, no wonder all those players left in January because they obviously weren’t being paid.
- In what way is the club in a worse state than when he arrived? I am genuinely baffled by that statement.
- How is David Sharpe supposed to ‘get the club back’? He’s not the manager, nor a player. He’ll be going nowhere as buyers aren’t exactly queuing up and there’s too much Whelan money invested into the club to merely walk away.
- Do Wigan Athletic actually pay rent? I’m sure they don’t pay anything for using the stadium. The stadium is owned by the Whelan family so why would they throw the football club out while they still own both? If the club is ever sold, they will invariably include the stadium within that sale.
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Thanks for the reply Standish, I genuinely appreciate the feedback. However, naturally, i can’t agree. Also you have mistaken me saying we are in a worse state that we were pre-Whelan. I said we will be as a consequence of the asset stripping. Think about the logics of it all, Yeah we played under the guidance of Whelan’s financial master plan on our way up the leagues and there was no danger. Now we are heading in the opposite direction, a 25,000 seater stadium which carries all it’s bills (and rent’s, i assure you Wigan Athletic pay Dave Whelan, Whelco, Wigan Athletic holdings or whatever he calls his business account these days, A rent) The3 maths don’t add up. This club is going to drain money every single week. It will bleed straight out of the council funded sides of the stadium quicker than a hemophiliac on a belt sander. I know you all think i am ‘Thick’ ‘Know nowt’ ‘idiot’ ‘clown’ and whatever other profanity you want to throw my way but can somebody prove me wrong? you can trawl through my past posts over the past 5 years or so and you can prove me right if you like because i assure you, About 90% of what i have been predicting for this club has come true so far. I don’t just brazenly make these comments for attention or to cause a stir (well not all the time) I don’t understand why everyone thinks the sun shines out of his (whelan’s) anus apart from the old clichés obviously.
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.
Whelsn walked because of his cock up, Sorry but that is bullshit. He has been threatening to walk for one reason or another since Martinez’s last season, Blaming the faithful fans most of the time (lovely man)[/quote]
You continually say that Whelan lines his pockets from Wigan Athletic.
The accounts, plus numerous posters on here, continually prove that to be incorrect.
Yet you persist. And you wonder why no-one has any time for you.
Har har de fuckin har! Still seen more live action than you though over the last 14 seasons eh! You need to knock a few years off your username !
Really? Have you been on your Bob’s mushrooms?
Firstly, how exactly do you “knock years” off a user name of ‘Griff’?
Secondly, I seem to recall you once bragging that you’d only missed 8 or so home games since we moved to the new stadium. So, that puts me those 8 in front of you in the last 14 years, plus all the JJB/DW games in the two years before that (1999-2015 is 16 years, not 14), plus the last few years at Springy (though I confess I can’t reacall if I went to all of those as well as I can the new stadium, I’m sure I misese done or two) plus all our home friendlies since 1999, and that’s before I even get on to away games.
You do know what away games are, don’t you? Mind you, if you can’t manage a full home game, it’s understandable if you can’t manage an away game.
If you get in quickly with your new seat application, I believe there’s a space next to the drummer. Hurry![/quote]
I don’t think he was talking to you ;)[/quote]
Oh yeah, sorry Phil :blush:
Dave whelan has kept the club on a sound footing for year so we are in league one for next season it won’t be the first time we have be there I hope it’s the last. I would rather be in our position rather than Q.P.Rs or Portsmouth a few years ago so if whelan has made any money it’s only what he’s put in in the first place. I can’t wait for the new season to start get behind the boy and see what happens.Correct. Except he’s lost about £50m. Still, what’s that between friends eh, is what some of our ‘fans’ will say?
Agree with you on the rest, though.
Its up to Dave really. He owns the club and seems just as rich or richer than he was in Jewels day. Just up to Dave if he wants to gamble a tiny bit of his fortune.
Whelan already gambled quite a bit of his fortune to realise the dream he set out to achieve. Whether he still has the desire or inclination at pushing eighty to bankroll the club and try and do it all again is another matter.[/quote]
And I, for one, wouldn’t blame him if he didn’t.
When the parachute payments dry up, if we want to have a club to support, going forward, then people are going to have to accept a very different financial landscape.
Do you know for sure that’s the reason, John, or just speculation?
I’ve heard nothing about such plans, except to make a “singing section”. There are, or were, no plans to shut any particular areas.
What did the letter actually say?
It doesn’t matter what is says George , the bottom line is he can’t have the seat he has occupied since the east became allocated to home fans. If we had still been in Championship I strongly suspect he would have been able to renew.
If they want to have specific areas for singing, make the east stand a sit where you want job, that will allow people to get in early if they want to sit in the middle blocks and allow gangs of singers to get together and make a fuss. The pricing structure can be aligned accordingly.
The letter he received today was the first my lad knew about this change, which confirms that although we have been a premier league club on the field, off it we have never got beyond conference North.
I remember investing in an away season ticket with promise of best seats, blah, blah, blah, it was a load of shyte and I spent more time sat in a pokey corner of the ground with a pish poor view, whilst my mates had prime seats behind the goals having bought their tickets a few days before the match.I am coming to the conclusion that its no coincidence that our demise started when a certain Jonathon Jackson became CE. Penny pinching here and penny pinching there, a manager conveyor belt all of which he has been involved in. Mr Jackson seems to be like Graham Barrow and sneaks about under the radar, whilst the focus has been on Dave Whelan and a series of incompetent managers and players. Has the CE actually been accountable for any of this sudden slide? One big fat no is the answer!! :angry:[/quote]
Scandalous! The least I would have expected is that Jackson and Sharpe came round to your lad’s house to explain it to him in person.
As for your last paragraph… the capacity of this site to spout collective shite about things it knows nothing about never ceases to amaze me.
And before that imbecile, The Torch, comes on to say he thought I’d packed in on the site, this stuff is just too hilarious to ignore
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