OK fair enough, but if there was never a problem being a part of the Rivals network for years until it got bought out then it seems a little harsh (in my opinion) criticising someone running a site on the Vital network?

As for your second point, I think I made my position clear in response to trulatic4eva namely

Even though the site I am involved with didn’t receive an invite, I think it’s a great idea in principle, Sunderland have a similar set up and it would only make our fan base stronger. Not with standing all the disputes and bickering of course

However, there are clearly technical problems involved with merging different forums as those part of networks have to retain the ‘house style. The only other thing we agreed when we merged our own three indepndent sites was not to accept commercial advertising, which again would make merging this site and others difficult. But it was by no means a closed shop and still isn’t. aAs I said I think it’s a great idea in principle

Fair enough pal, football is only a game and as I’ve always said, I consider anyone who watches Latics to be my friend and would always rather make a friend than an enemy. Whatever is going on away from here, it’s not my business but personally and through the wider Latics family I have been involved with many situations which have been much more important than a bit of website bickering so whatever the problem is, I wish you all the best and hope all gets resolved well.

I consider myself a decent human being and don’t wish to cause you any upset, all I have sought to do is get an apology out of you for the comments you made about me on here which could cause offence to me and my own family as they patently weren’t true. I always believe that when someone’s in the wrong they should apologise, it’s certainly something I would do. I’m not that stubborn and life’s too short.

But never mind, I’ve made my point and proved it several times. Apologies from me if my pulling you up on it again has caused any distress to you, some things in life are more important mate

Wow nice reinvention if history. Just for good measure, I have bumped up a thread which you challenged me on numerous things and then chose to ignore for several months when I subsequently proved you wrong.

There’s no need to talk in riddles, everyone saw what you wrote about me, and your pathetic subsequent attempts to wriggle out of it

I don’t hide from anyone, I read the board regularly, I felt what you were saying about me deserved a response – what am I supposed to do when someone is slandering me without justification on a public website

You lied about me, called me a hooligan and then refused to apologise despite numerous people putting you straight on here.

People have read that and gone up to members of my family and said ‘who was that lad who called Jimmy a hooligan on a website’ it’s a pretty despicable thing to do and you were rightly condemned at the time, it wasn’t nice for me or for my family and it could have been not very nice for my job – and you say I’m the liar :?

As you’re now calling me a liar then please show me where I’ve lied? Even if I have by default published something in a magazine which might not have been truthful and in your attempts to weasel your way out of what you called me, you are trying to associate this with me, I would still say it is better than launching a personal attack at someone’s character, which you still haven’t managed either to justify or apologise for six months on

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A while since I did one of Gekko’s trips and looking forward to it but are you on about the “oooutrageous” baesball cap ginger or the ‘bolshy’ ex-taxi mon ginger? Or neither? Either way, unless someone has a copy of The Snake or Paddy McGinty’s Goat, I won’t be singing.

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I hope that nobody is planning to be drinking on this bus Griff, loudmouth clearly disapproves of this as he accused me and others a while back of running coaches which may or may not have contained people who were indulging in the quaffing of alcoholic beverages. Loudmouth was particularly keen to point out that this was in contravention of a particular public order act and even quoted sections of that specific act verbatim purely for my benefit.

Considering he feels so morally vehement about this I should imagine that even the slightest whiff of Shandy Bass on your coach and he will be on the phone to the relevant authorities. Unless he’s a complete hypocrite of course and was trying (and failing) to engage in some kind of point scoring exercise :?

WRONG

Here’s the article again http://www.mudhutter.co.uk/news.php?extend.92

Please show me where I have linked “them”? I haven’t even mentioned FC United in the piece – yet again you’ve been shown up as a liar and taken “umbridge” to something which wasn’t there.

WRONG

The latest Mudhutter has articles from two new contributors, one a 19 year old girl from Bury and the other a young man from Kazazhstan. I’ve never met either. Does this sound “eletist” to you? Or are they just people who took the opportunity to give their point of view for a fanzine which continually states that it is open to everybody and proves it by including new contributors more or less every single issue.

I really don’t know what your grudge is, you seem to be cherry picking a handful of things that may have been written by me or any number of other people over the years a few pages amongst hundreds and were probably no different from many things written in the old Cockney Latic fanzine, in many cases by the person without whom the Cockney Latic website and fanzine would not even exist. Believe me, he, like many others, is laughing at your pathetic continual attempts to discredit me with lies, you’re becoming quite the topic of conversation. It’s clearly becoming an obsession for you but give it up – you’re chasing your tail and have now been shown up more times than I care to remember

But go on then, let’s have just one more….

VERY, VERY WRONG. YOU COULDN’T BE MORE WRONG IF YOU TRIED

Unless you are seriously trying to tell me that a club run on socialist principles, with a one member, one vote policy, where the fans determine the ticket prices and the frequency which the shirt is changed and is run entirely by volunteers who put hundreds of hours of their own free time in every week not just to run the club but carry out endless work in the community with disadvantaged people from all walks of life is in fact nothing more than a “fashion statement” made by “bullies” seeking “world domination”

I suggest you have a read of the following:

FC United hold ‘Big Coat’ Charity which raises 5.5 tonnes of clothes to help the homeless: http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/story.php?story_id=3328
FC United fight to help asylum seeker get deported: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening … g_deported
Volunteer community football training for Barnados kids http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/newcommstory.php?story_id=34
And loads more here http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/community.php

Not to mention the 5,000 seater community stadium (sounds really world dominating that…..) they are building with support from the Council with a view to regenerating a deprived area of East Manchester which will be open to and benefit the area as a whole

Listen loudmouth, I’d always rather make a friend than an enemy. Unfortunately it was you who chose to slag me off and I felt the need to put you straight.

I’ve now done this more times than I really should waste my efforts on by now and in your attempts to make a fool out of me, you are only succeeding in making a fool out of yourself. Give it up and move on.

And it’s funny how my re-appearance suddenly brings out your re-appearance. ;)

What can I say Micky, I’m a busy man. I defend my corner though, and believe me I spent many years defending many corners with regards to the Cockney Latic over the years. In print, online or in a social setting, either in the pub, arranging charity events and spending eight hours on a Saturday morning counting, delivering and selling fanzines on a usually freezing bridge. Where were you then Micky, oh staunch defender of the Cockney Latic?

I have no self esteem issues, I know I’ve put in a decent shift over the years sacrificing hundreds of hours doing something I enjoy and laying a lot of the foundations for making this great site what it is today. No need to thank me though, I know my 2010 contribution was non existent.

But Kudos to your post, you might call it an exercise in self congratulatory back slapping (as indeed you did when similar stuff appeared on MHM a couple of years ago), but it is in essence a nice bit of recognition for contributors to a particular section of the WAFC online community, or in simpler terms ‘a bit of fun’. No hierarchies, no conspiracies, no talk of generals or foot soldiers, just a bit of fun.

Well what a surprise, someone takes a pop at Loudmouth and he immediately brings the Mudhutter site into it

I have no idea who Tea Bag Head is but I like the cut of his jib with a cracking post in a style vaguely reminiscent of a certain cavalier heavy metal gentleman who many moons ago used to stalk this board. It touched a few nerves and he’s certainly got the measure of you.

There is no issue with anyone contributing to Mudhutter. The only criteria is that you must know your onions. People who spend all day moaning that the onion in front of you is making you cry whilst continually stating that you don’t like onions in the same repetitive manner will be given short shrift. ;)