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I was watching the promotion season dvd the other day and until that last game against Reading, our crowds averaged about 12,000. That day, V Reading, it jumped to 19,000. 7000 bandwagoners there, straight away. The pitch invasion was mainly made by people who had probably never been before.
I like being in the Premier League. I just don’t like the kind of supporter it attracts. The ones that will disappear when we eventually go down.
I reckon if we averaged 12,000 then they weren’t the same 12,000 week in week out. So there wasn’t 7,000 new fans for the Reading game.
As Eaststander says ‘Embrace’. Every last one of ’em.
If someone turns up for the next game, sits next to me and tells me it’s his very first ever time watching Latics, then he’s as much a right to call himself a fan as I do. I have no greater privilege or set of rights over this great club of ours than he does. His views, opinions and insights into football are at least as valid as mine.
If a past player happens to be on the pitch at half time I’d bloody well expect him to applaud too. Even if he doesn’t know who it is.
I have no time whatsoever for the small minded minority who can recall the smallest details of an obscure game from the seventies or eighties and therefore Lord it over anyone else.
And yes, I did go to Springfield Park. Admitedly I was wanting a trip to Anfield, but my Dad took me to see Latics instead and the rest is history. History that’s in the past. A past that means little compared to our future. A future in which I want to see us have 20,000 home fans on each week. Maybe even some that didn’t go to Goole Town away.
The reaction of a fair few of our lot, and the reaction of the Chelsea fans yesterday confirms once and for all that a great deal of so called football ‘supporters’ are absolute gobshites.At half time on Saturday, they brought Andy Lyons out on the pitch. He got a big clap off people, but the cynic on me was thinking “the majority of the people in this ground won’t even have seen him play”. You might think/say “does it matter?” But to me, and yes, I know it’s bitter old me again, I feel a bit p’d off by all the faux supporters.
Probably just me being bitter, but there you go.
Regarding Rafa Benitez, my opinion is that he is a very good manager and but for Hicks and Gillette at Liverpool, he would probably still be there. I’m not saying they’d have won the league, but they would’ve certainly gone closer than they have in the past couple of seasons, in my opinion. He’s one of the top managers in Europe, of that I have no doubt. Why Liverpool didn’t appoint him in the summer, I have no idea. He was the man that most reds fans wanted, and I think he would’ve been best man for their job. More fool Chelsea ‘fans’ for not seeing the wood for the trees. Pictures of grown men holding up ‘anti Benitez’ banners in todays paper is cringeworthy to say the least. Plastic club, plastic fans. They’ve a top manager and they don’t even know it.
Like I say, a lot of football supporters……..gobshites.
I’d agree with the start and end of that…some football supporters are gobshites. But they always have been. It’s nothing new. Back when I started going hooliganism was on the rise. Now that was a time for gobshites.
The Rafa bit was the start fa reasonable debate, but you’d lost me when you felt the need to prove your superfan status with the Andy Lyons reference. My lad is fourteen and has had a season ticket for nearly ten years. He hasn’t a clue who Andy Lyons is. Does that make him a faux supporter? Or is he just a polite young lad who knows how to behave appropriately?
Gobshites? Yeah, there’s a few of ’em around!
I know people shouldn’t boo but the game was petering out towards half time and Reading were on top at that point.
If you pay entry then you are entitled to vent your spleen if you like in my opinion.That said I agree with you the performance didn’t warrant the boos But give me supporters who care any day than some of the miserable g/ts who sit near me who don’t speak or cheer and look disdainfully at people swear or shout during the game.Agree with all of that. As for the last bit, I used to sit in west stand too. ;)
Tossers. The lot of youagreed but i have a feeling you would not have posted that if we had lost would you be honest
Glad you are in touch with your feelings. Emotional intelligence is an important skill to learn.
However, you clearly don’t know me at all. I have frequently expressed my thoughts towards those that boo when the result hasn’t gone our way, both on here and face to face.And why wouldn’t I be honest? Unlike some on here, I don’t feel the need to have several faces/multiple personalities. I have only one. It’s the same on here as it is at home, in the pub or at work.
How about you sudworth?
Couldnt of happened to a nicer bloke :cheer:
Another bad decision I believe as I think Mark Hughes would have pulled it around, decent manager.
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False report, soft lad. He’s not a decent manager.
His record at QPR: Played 38, Won 8, Drew 6, Lost 20. A win percentage of less than 24%. At his previous job, Fulham, he had a win percentage of 33% and even with millions and millions at City he did fuck all with them.[/quote]
So what happened in the other four games?
I have also had employers that like to pay for me to travel the world, but my best memory is from my very first flight. Dan Dare from Manchester to Milan (Malpensa) for a week away with a few mates to celebrate my 21st.
Anyway Milan was fog bound for the return flight home so we were taken to a military airport a couple of hours away to join our diverted flight for departure. Now fighter jets on the runway is a bit off putting, but actually what followed made me smile and has stayed with me for the past 24 years.
This place was tiny and we were all ushered into the airport building which could just about accomodate the 100 odd people so long as we stood up and didn’t mind intimate contact. Bags were all manually tagged and taken away on trollies through a set of glass doors at the end of the building. There were actually two glass doors just a few feet apart and we could see through them to the runway. As our flight landed a big cheer went up and the one Italian trying to organise us all came out with a marker pen, two pieces of A4 paper and a loudhaler.
He proceeded to put a number 1 on the paper and stick it one of the glass doors. He then used the loudhaler to announce that “Dan Air Flight 123 was ready for boarding through gate 1”. He opened the door and we all traipsed out towards the plane. He then put a large 2 on the second piece off paper, stuck it to the other door and as the delayed/pissed off passengers who thought they were off to Milan disemabarked he informed them to proceed to the baggage reclaim area through gate 2!
He’d been to real airports and seen how it was done. There was no way his place was going to be seen as anything other than a ‘proper’ airport and fair play to him.
I like a laugh as much as the next man, but some of ’em are about as funny as fishing!
I’d also ban tedious idiots who post nonsense, deliberately stalk other posters, or who are presistently and repetitively negative and/or insulting.
Not sure how many that would leave ;)
when i think of a legend, i think of someone who gave their all for wigan athletic, there have been a few down the years, but very few during our premier league stint…thats because of the greed and money that the premier league generates…mercenaries after an easy pay day.so im gonna say lee mculloch for starters, not the best player weve ever had, but he made the best of he ability that he did have. a guy that gave 100% and thats good enough for me.
a bit of a controversial one, but im gonna say emile heskey…ridiculed by many, but i think a perfect fit for us. good leader of the line, and THAT performance at sheff utd should get him in on its own….and lets not forget, as a wigan athletic player, got picked for ENGLAND as number 9.
and thirdly, im gonna say emerson boyce..stayed with us when others have left, and still lookin fairly solid enough for a couple more years, does he hold our most appearance record in the premier league?
thats my opinion anyroad.
And a fine opinion it is too. I’d agree with every one of those.
I’d also add Arjan de Zeeuw and Mike Pollitt.
I don’t think Heskey is a controversial choice either. I reckon 9/10 Wigan fans would agree if they’d been there for most of his performances in that season, not just the Sheffield Utd game.
I will start with football. This weekend I’ll be watching Spurs game in a bar in Spain just before heading to the airport to come home.
Next up concert wise for me – One Direction at the O2. No, really I am. I have a teenage daughter, so I’ve also seen Kylie, Jessie J and Glee Live in the last couple of years. Then it’s my annual pilgrimage to Glastonbury (where I’ve witnessed our exit from several major tournaments in recent years).
worng??? not sure what you mean there lad hope you have spell checked your book lol btw are you stalking me. ha haLast edit: 21 minutes ago by sudworth
Now that’s funny!
I’d be a hypocrit to be against it because I have worked a lot in other countries and think it’s great that anybody can go anywhere in Europe to work for a while.
Time for the really controversial comment that a few people are really going to hate, but if you have knuckled down and become really good in your field of work, you wouldn’t worry about anybody else taking your job, be it English, Polish, robots or them little green buggers from Mars. The country as a whole has been far too lapse in recent years thinking that we will be prosperous because we have been for centuries. Unfortunately, times are changing and other countries are fast catching up to us and overtaking us. Unfortunately, it’s often far too easy to blame everybody else but ourselves when we don’t get what we want from life.
Let the abuse begin…
Totally agree with that. No abuse from me.
In fact, I moved from Wigan over 20 years ago to live and work in the South East. Why? More money…lots more money. The only difference between me and those discussed on here is distance.
I also have to explode the myth about older workers taking jobs from youngsters. Sorry Thrityfive, but ask any economist and they will tell you it’s completely false. An old person in work is contributing to the eceonomy, spending mponey that gives rise to other jobs and paying taxes. An old person out of work contributes nothing in taxes and might also need to claim housing benefit, etc.[/quote]
then what is the answer a younger person can’t get that job because the older person has it so the younger person then claims benefit and contributes nothing in taxes[/quote]
You’re right, they can’t get THAT job, but they can get other jobs created from the money spent by the working older person, or from the taxes paid by the older person.
Although I have to confess that I only got a D in my economics A level :blush:
The above I took from a recent TV programme that put retired people back to work. One topic that came up time and again was that old people still working are blocking jobs for youngsters. They asked a few economists who all said it was basically bollocks.
I’d be a hypocrit to be against it because I have worked a lot in other countries and think it’s great that anybody can go anywhere in Europe to work for a while.Time for the really controversial comment that a few people are really going to hate, but if you have knuckled down and become really good in your field of work, you wouldn’t worry about anybody else taking your job, be it English, Polish, robots or them little green buggers from Mars. The country as a whole has been far too lapse in recent years thinking that we will be prosperous because we have been for centuries. Unfortunately, times are changing and other countries are fast catching up to us and overtaking us. Unfortunately, it’s often far too easy to blame everybody else but ourselves when we don’t get what we want from life.
Let the abuse begin…
Totally agree with that. No abuse from me.
In fact, I moved from Wigan over 20 years ago to live and work in the South East. Why? More money…lots more money. The only difference between me and those discussed on here is distance.
I also have to explode the myth about older workers taking jobs from youngsters. Sorry Thrityfive, but ask any economist and they will tell you it’s completely false. An old person in work is contributing to the eceonomy, spending mponey that gives rise to other jobs and paying taxes. An old person out of work contributes nothing in taxes and might also need to claim housing benefit, etc.
How the heII has this site degenerated into this?.Worse than parIiamant at PM,s question time.
This is what happens when you have too many football free weekends at the start of the season. The kiddies, bored and starved of their football fix, just run amok.
I blame FIFA.[/quote]
Surely FIFA keeps ’em off here and on their XBox or PS3?