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I feel a win is a win at this stage of the season and the position we are in .And didn’t need a full strength latics to do that IMO.Confidence and goals maybe…and for the record I don’t think we will go down and I feel we have been very unlucky with decisions and injuries and played some good stuff this season and see a lot of merit in what Bobbie as done.
Completely agree with all of that.
Just to set the record straight even though I defend Martinez’s FA cup selection and his general outlook on the two cups vs PL priorities I would love nothing more than a cup run as it would be a breath of fresh air to our usual battle to stay up.
Agree JPC first team players scoring a pond full of goals giving them confidence .A good win and team performance again a win going into the next game confidence.No need for an extra game(replay).
No brainer .But I’m no manager also just my opinion. :SAll good and well saying that but we could of put the same team out that played v united and come up with the same result.
Probably the same people who have been calling for Martinez’s head now would be doing so on the basis he didnt freshen the team up.
Was it Jewell who said fans are great at picking teams after the match?
Wigan fans demanding we are in the same position as the likes of Everton. ????
Cringeworthy.
not what was said/demanded at all[/quote]
Seemed to me an attempt to say that if Everton can put a full team out in the cup why should Martinez not have the same policy.
Did it not?
I think he likes the lightside/ darkside divideI could say the same about you fella.
Always seem to want to be in the thick of it.
Following on from Griff’s post:There are other occasions where players are rested and it’s comparisons of their resting against resting in ‘normal’ jobs like the first post in the thread that gets my goat.
‘They’re paid a million pounds a year. They don’t deserve a day off. ‘
Footballers are paid to be physically fit, and obviously, they perform best against other physically fit footballers if they are at absolute optimum fitness levels.
Resting them isn’t a case of them being tired after a long day at the office; aside from fatigue, they’re also resting aching limbs, strains, dead legs etc, and it’s the club’s medical staff who decide who needs resting and when, not a player telling the manager he’s a bit tired.
Football these days is a multi-million pound hi-tech industry and it’s all about having the edge over the competition – whether that means resting a player, changing their diet, addressing their lifestyle etc.
So when someone in (eg) retail is measured by their physical performance against another person, and they’ll be roundly booed and ridiculed by twenty thousand people if they seem heavy legged or are not pulling their weight, then their employers might think about giving them an extra day off too.
Your above comments had been on the tip of my fingers since the Bradford game but considering how long it to took some people on here to come to terms with the 3-4-3 formation implemented last season I thought sports science was a subject better left to rest.
He signed a 4 year contract with Flamengo last January.Correct, he was a flagship signing along with Ronaldinho but apparently nobody has been paid in over 2 months so he wants off.
The word is he will go back to Russia but while £6million is not out of the realm of possibility I would hazard a guess his wages are :(
And back on the original subject it is a fantastic draw.
I am not going to hold my breath that we will get through as I dont think Martinez will risk more senior players for the replay and rightly so.
It will be just a tough a game as the first but hopefully a rocket will be fire up certain players arses and they can do what is expected of them.
I dont get to many away games but If we get through I would love to go to Mcclesfield with it being faily local and hopefully see their manager cry for the wrong reasons instead of good ones :side:
If I had to pick one thing that has gone wrong for us this season it is the lack of supply from our two wing backs.
Beausajor has been in poor form ever since he came back from his early season injury and seems to be suffering from a serious lack in confidence although I think he is gradually getting a bit better each game although very gradually at best I admit.
The biggest effect in 2012 on the team was having most of our CB’s injured which meant Boyce had to go to CB.
Stam is terrible he cannot defend or cross a ball which are the two essential parts of his game!!
I read a Bournemouth blog that was suprised how well their LW did for them saying he played the best game he ever has for Bournemouth.
I agree with them and it says a lot about Stam.
Hopefully with our CB’s getting back to full fitness and a bit of a rest for Jeany B we might see a bit more effect from him and Boyce in the coming PL matches which is essential IMO if Boselli is to be the man playing up front.
The above combined with Alcaraz hopefully returning to full fitness then this leaky defence might tighten up enough to see us to a decent pick up of points for 2013.
Just so I dont get accused of talking sh*t and having blue tinted specs on again I will add the following alternative statement for the benefit of Les Miserables.
Martinez out! he is a spanish clown! Boselli is crap! Sack Whelan he is a thief! Shoot the kids!
Filmoss you weren’t at the game so you don’t know what your talking about in all fairness and it grinds my gears that you want to be in the thick of the discussions on here gloating to people who did bother.
Why if you are so uninterested as to not watch a game would you suddenly have so many opinions on it and what went wrong?
Saying that when you have been to the games you don’t seem to know what your talking about half the time either…
Comments that further back up Yosser’s opinion of you ! I will however fill you in on the point that I was trying to make that you clearly missed. I was trying to say that it sounded like the same old same old tactics were being dished up and it is those very same tactics that irk so many people week in week out ! If the first 11 cant really pull off those sort of tactics then I am pretty sure that the fringe players cant ! Don’t forget my Manchester friend, that this is a forum and all views and opinions are welcome ![/quote]
Yeah cheers for that mate.
Fair comment about the tactics but I think mine was a fair question about why if you have no interest in watching a game do you have such an interest in debating about the outcome of it.
One I see you swiftly swerved my window cleaning friend.
And if I am “mancunian” then so are you but you have more pressing matters than a geography lesson at hand.[/quote]
Your attempts to wind me up are futile, give up ! I had no interest in spending any money on going to watch the game but was interested enough to check out the commentary from time to time ! Does that answer your question my Manchester Utd neighbouring friend ![/quote]
I am not trying to wind you up, I prefer the hard to get type and you’re as easy as breathing ;)
Spending your money?!?!?! a tenner out of the so called mint you earn out of wiping peoples windows for them?
Are you still angry at Martinez because his team put 3 past Villa? ( the team you used to support :silly: )
A fair answer to my question would have been “because I like stoking up arguments on here” of which I have seen you increasingly guilty of recently.
Sadden.[/quote]
Tenner,diesel and sundries adds up to more like £20. As for Villa, they were my team as a school lad and I only saw them once back then. Do you think all Wigan fans have followed Wigan since the year dot ? Where do you think the other 8000 or so Wigan regulars where yesterday ? Those that bothered are the minority here so wake up and smell the coffee and stop this blind faith idiocy. Cup football under Martinez is always going to be a dull affair and worse than the first team stuff which I hasten to add aint been that good thus far this season bar a couple of games ![/quote]
What blind faith idiocy??
I came on today and made a comment of which players I thought did okay and which I thought didn’t.
The result is I get accused of having blind faith from you and being unable to have a reasoned view and wearing blue tinted specs off Yosser :huh: ?!?!??!
If you want to throw your hat in with that mong then good luck to you but its like water off a ducks back to me as you are as fickle as they come hippy boy and Yosser I am led to believe doesn’t even go to games anymore.[/quote]
He’ll be calling you a troll next after showing him up again :lol:[/quote]
I wont because he has his own views and is capable of debate unlike you ! If you think I have been shown up then you are sadder than I initially thought ! As for the blind faith comment Sally, I was referring to your positive spin on Martinez, you never seem to see his faults and that to me is blind faith ![/quote]
I used to think you were alright Phillip but if you think I wear rose tinted glasses because I don’t call for martinezs head every time we lose that says more about you than it does me fella.
I’m off to bed but on a final note I am going to reiterate the fact I come on to point out imo who let us down and who didn’t.
That is a reasoned view on the subject which people are more than welcome to debate providing they are not just echoing someone elses opinion they heard on the radio which is as laughable as yosser Hughes wide boy antics (if you are reading this yosser I bet you are soft as sh*t :silly:)
Filmoss you weren’t at the game so you don’t know what your talking about in all fairness and it grinds my gears that you want to be in the thick of the discussions on here gloating to people who did bother.
Why if you are so uninterested as to not watch a game would you suddenly have so many opinions on it and what went wrong?
Saying that when you have been to the games you don’t seem to know what your talking about half the time either…
Comments that further back up Yosser’s opinion of you ! I will however fill you in on the point that I was trying to make that you clearly missed. I was trying to say that it sounded like the same old same old tactics were being dished up and it is those very same tactics that irk so many people week in week out ! If the first 11 cant really pull off those sort of tactics then I am pretty sure that the fringe players cant ! Don’t forget my Manchester friend, that this is a forum and all views and opinions are welcome ![/quote]
Yeah cheers for that mate.
Fair comment about the tactics but I think mine was a fair question about why if you have no interest in watching a game do you have such an interest in debating about the outcome of it.
One I see you swiftly swerved my window cleaning friend.
And if I am “mancunian” then so are you but you have more pressing matters than a geography lesson at hand.[/quote]
Your attempts to wind me up are futile, give up ! I had no interest in spending any money on going to watch the game but was interested enough to check out the commentary from time to time ! Does that answer your question my Manchester Utd neighbouring friend ![/quote]
I am not trying to wind you up, I prefer the hard to get type and you’re as easy as breathing ;)
Spending your money?!?!?! a tenner out of the so called mint you earn out of wiping peoples windows for them?
Are you still angry at Martinez because his team put 3 past Villa? ( the team you used to support :silly: )
A fair answer to my question would have been “because I like stoking up arguments on here” of which I have seen you increasingly guilty of recently.
Sadden.[/quote]
Tenner,diesel and sundries adds up to more like £20. As for Villa, they were my team as a school lad and I only saw them once back then. Do you think all Wigan fans have followed Wigan since the year dot ? Where do you think the other 8000 or so Wigan regulars where yesterday ? Those that bothered are the minority here so wake up and smell the coffee and stop this blind faith idiocy. Cup football under Martinez is always going to be a dull affair and worse than the first team stuff which I hasten to add aint been that good thus far this season bar a couple of games ![/quote]
What blind faith idiocy??
I came on today and made a comment of which players I thought did okay and which I thought didn’t.
The result is I get accused of having blind faith from you and being unable to have a reasoned view and wearing blue tinted specs off Yosser :huh: ?!?!??!
If you want to throw your hat in with that mong then good luck to you but its like water off a ducks back to me as you are as fickle as they come hippy boy and Yosser I am led to believe doesn’t even go to games anymore.
Filmoss you weren’t at the game so you don’t know what your talking about in all fairness and it grinds my gears that you want to be in the thick of the discussions on here gloating to people who did bother.
Why if you are so uninterested as to not watch a game would you suddenly have so many opinions on it and what went wrong?
Saying that when you have been to the games you don’t seem to know what your talking about half the time either…
Comments that further back up Yosser’s opinion of you ! I will however fill you in on the point that I was trying to make that you clearly missed. I was trying to say that it sounded like the same old same old tactics were being dished up and it is those very same tactics that irk so many people week in week out ! If the first 11 cant really pull off those sort of tactics then I am pretty sure that the fringe players cant ! Don’t forget my Manchester friend, that this is a forum and all views and opinions are welcome ![/quote]
Yeah cheers for that mate.
Fair comment about the tactics but I think mine was a fair question about why if you have no interest in watching a game do you have such an interest in debating about the outcome of it.
One I see you swiftly swerved my window cleaning friend.
And if I am “mancunian” then so are you but you have more pressing matters than a geography lesson at hand.[/quote]
Your attempts to wind me up are futile, give up ! I had no interest in spending any money on going to watch the game but was interested enough to check out the commentary from time to time ! Does that answer your question my Manchester Utd neighbouring friend ![/quote]
I am not trying to wind you up, I prefer the hard to get type and you’re as easy as breathing ;)
Spending your money?!?!?! a tenner out of the so called mint you earn out of wiping peoples windows for them?
Are you still angry at Martinez because his team put 3 past Villa? ( the team you used to support :silly: )
A fair answer to my question would have been “because I like stoking up arguments on here” of which I have seen you increasingly guilty of recently.
Sadden.
moan moan moan thats all i read on here and why i cant be bothered so much why i bet the biggest moaners hardly go especcially away well if you cant take it then dont bother leave it to genuine fans who can see what martinez is aiming for to keep us up would you raher have an fa cup run or go down how many of you moaners are going to the replay and fulahmSudworth – the Lightside’s answer to williestroker :(
