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The general consensus between the prawn sandwich eaters in my office this morning is that they should have hired Martinez instead of Moyes.
Talk about being fickle :huh:
I would like us to go in to every game with the intention to win it but I would happy to see the likes of Dicko, Fyvie and Nicholls starting in this game.
This competition has to be considered the lowest of our priorities.
I have to agree with the negative sentiments that it was not a brilliant performance and for other than a few moments of luck (although I always think its about time we get it when we do) we could of lost this.
That being said we were playing on the lost football pitch of Atlantis so maybe a point away isn’t all that bad.
I certainly think we can turn them over at home anyway.
Coyle seemed to be resigned to taking a point judging by his moronic substitutions.
But what was he kicking off about ?[/quote]
An FA statement said “that his language and/or behaviour at the end of the match amounted to improper conduct”.
Giving it the big’un after the final whistle.
If you do live in Salford that was probably the most enlightening 8 seconds of your life. Pity your ego missed it.I hope you live in a more affluent place than Wigan if you are making comments like that.
I hope you get sacked tomorrow and lose your house for your part in wasting the 8 seconds of my life it took me to skim read that terrible post.
Not fairing too well in the transfer window again. :woohoo:
Lost one of prize assets in MF, failed to bring in Fernando, McCarthy and just now Lukaku choosing a loan move to WBA over the toffees.
Ah well, he’s still got the Steve McMillan of the centre half world Antolin Alcaraz and his sharp shooter Arouna Kone to get them champions league football.
You deserve all you get mate. :P
You look a bit daft now, don’t you?
Widely regarded by most of the pundits I listened to as a half-decent window for Everton.[/quote]
Lukaku, McCarthy & Barry isn’t too bad at all!
The usual scapegoat is the referee. Coyle has already wrongly criticised the referee who dismissed McManaman, promising to appeal against the decision. Fortunately, wiser counsel prevailed.
I’d no idea this would be so contentious. I’m sorry I said it.[/quote]
its not lad, and you are right. these other pillocks cant see it, thats all[/quote]
Looks like this meeting of the minds has come to an end :huh:
Law 12 A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any
of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be
careless, reckless or using excessive force:
• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent
• tackles an opponentIf a player, in the eyes of the referee, is careless, reckless or uses excessive force in a tackle, then he commits a foul. It doesn’t matter whether he gets the ball or not. When the referee gives a foul for a tackle, players are acting under a misapprehension when they indicate that they got the ball.
This file gives some further explanation of the rule; http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf
Careless – lack of attention or consideration or without precaution – free kick only
Reckless – with disregard for the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent – free kick plus caution
Using excessive force – far exceeded the use of necessary force and is in danger of injuring his opponent – free kick plus sending offYou may or may not like the rule. You may or may not share the referee’s opinion. Fans are usually partisan; they generally think that decisions against their side are harsh, while decisions against their opponents are lenient. But it seems that an appeal will only succeed if the referee has made a glaring error, and that doesn’t appear to be the case here.
I am sorry we all seem to be on different pages but you are confirming the point I am trying to make.
Nothing says it was a red card in the rules as it boils down to a matter of opinion on if the tackle used excessive force or not.
I will argue till the day I die that there was no excessive force in that tackle as if any less “force” and he wouldn’t have got to the ball in time but it will always boil down to a matter of opinion.
This for me is one of the major problems for referees nowadays in that they have not got a set of rules they can live by leaving them open to criticism.
If anyone watched Man U v Chelsea the other night you will see the same problem with the hand ball rule in that the latest party line is that “it is not a hand ball if it was not deliberate”…
So unless the referee is a mind reader they have no idea if it was deliberate or not!
I know that if any of the three I saw that night were by Caldwell it would of been a hand ball without fail.
Check Ashley Cole’s on the edge of the box and the commentator says “it was not an unnatural position so its not a hand ball” …. Putting aside the guy is doing a Bruce Forsythe type pose in mid air what the feck is an unnatural position? Do you have to detach your hand and throw it through the air?
The FA have a lot to answer for in terms of over complicating simple issues such as a hand ball or a good clean tackle to the point that nobody knows where they stand any more!
Just queued for 1 1/2 hours, with my grandson, to have his 2013 F.A Cup book signed at the D.W. Had a chat to Maloney who said he will be O.K. for Saturday. Most of them were quite chatty, except Gomez and Beausejour who had faces liked slapped arses. If ever anyone showed that they didn’t want to be there, these two did.
The explanation could be they are the two players who receive most stick when they are playing, they must hear the groans and booing when they make a mistake, and you expect them to all happy and smiles when the same people booing them turn up for a book signing.
The other explanation could be is they may be just ordinary lads who are not comfortable with that type of thing, I suspect it is probably something along this line.[/quote]
Correct.
Add to that English is not their first language. Never mind the Wigan broken version of it.
