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He has a checkered past regarding alcohol related incidents, including a drink driving conviction and now a drink driving charge, has suffered from depression and has previously tried to commit suicide.
I have some sympathy for the man but given his past I’m not sure he’s the best person to be preaching moral values to anyone especially in an organisation such as “Kick It Out”.
My problem is he also got us fekin relegated, then dumped us. :angry:
Do you realise how silly you sound?[/quote]
That has to be the best post I have ever read in the history of CL.
Just spend a few hours reading some of the stuff you have posted and see how silly, personal, aggressive, patronising, big headed, belittling and up one’s own harris you sound….and that’s just highlighting some of your better points. :kiss:
By the way a post immediately following a previous post, before anyone responds, stinks of gob in gear before brain. :lol:
Mind you yours must be fairly small, you and your mate thought Martinez was going to take Everton to the moon.
Oh dear,loving this thread and catching fish for fun with not a lot of bait on my hook.
Awaits response from two pillux in a pod, who can’t keep off the thread they are berating everyone for posting on. Just do what most people do if they don’t want to keep a thread going, keep the fek off it!.
There must be a thread somewhere on here to keep you humoured and interested.
Did you not know, that the people who saw or hoped that Martinez was gong to fail miserably at Everton, early in this thread, were just being / sounding down right silly!
PS “Champions League”[/quote]
It seems you place far more importance on the fact Martinez left the club after we were relegated rather than his incredible and hardly believable achievement of presiding over an FA Cup win.
It’s rather pathetic.
Souness even said that Martinez would be alright playing those tactics if he was managing the likes of Barcelona, but not Everton and as we already know not Wigan.So he achieved absolutely nothing at Wigan “playing those tactics”?
I take it you have erased the events of May 2013 from your memory due to an acute attack of the hissy-fits?
Grow up you big Jessie.
You could easily replace Coyle, Rosler and Malky with ‘managers without a clue x 3’ and there would be an equally common denominator.
I don’t think any texting etc has any say in this but the general feeling of the club has gone downhill since Malky’s appointment and DW’s breakdown.
I think potentially Malky has gone soft on them, been all nicey, nicey, when he should have been motivating, because of his baggage and tried too hard to fit in and play the big names, most of which are midfielders.I’d be happy for him to ditch one or 2 of them at Leeds.
Only you and Filmoss as far as I can see. The rest of us are feeling no worse or better than we did 5 games ago. Certainly my knees aren’t jerking like plenty other people’s are.
3 managers without a clue? So, I’ll ask you again, who would you replace him with? Horc is off the table, as are you – seemingly the only person who knows anything about football on this forum at the moment. Come on, which realistic option would you go for?[/quote]
Paul Jewell……. :dry:
I’m Next you crazy mother plucker :woohoo:
Are we turning into an Leeds and sacking a manager every few weeks when all and sundry can see it’s the bloody players who are the problem
If it is the players who are the problem & it seems most likely it is, only one man can sort out the problem – paul jewell[/quote]
Paul Jewell FFS…..!
Why does his name crop up every time the manager’s position is being debated? He’s had his time here and took us to the PL for which he should be quite rightly admired and respected. But he left us when the job got too much for him and he’s done bugger all since.
And if you are referring to that incident regarding player power when he first joined the club, if I remember correctly he turned to Whelan to sort that out.[/quote]
Sammy, my response was merely tongue in cheek. FFS!![/quote]
Whether your post was tongue-in-cheek or not it’s there as my response to those who seriously believe Jewell should be re-appointed as manager.
I’m Next you crazy mother plucker :woohoo:
Are we turning into an Leeds and sacking a manager every few weeks when all and sundry can see it’s the bloody players who are the problem
If it is the players who are the problem & it seems most likely it is, only one man can sort out the problem – paul jewell[/quote]
Paul Jewell FFS…..!
Why does his name crop up every time the manager’s position is being debated? He’s had his time here and took us to the PL for which he should be quite rightly admired and respected. But he left us when the job got too much for him and he’s done bugger all since.
And if you are referring to that incident regarding player power when he first joined the club, if I remember correctly he turned to Whelan to sort that out.
Girl from Longridge ( Where I clean windows) who is mates with his wife is saying that the papers have blown it out of proportion and that his injuries are not life threatening!
Them reporters want shafting if thats the case phil.No flies on you doing windows at Londridge.whats wrong with Worsley mesnes,Norley or Platwaz. ;)[/quote]
He wants a better than 50-50 chance of making it home.
I would suggest that we now need to win games and we don’t do that playing with McClean up top on his own and then resorting to 2 lads up there for the last 10 when we’re losing.I have been advocating Riera and Delort but I doubt he’ll go with that. He may go Fortune on his own against Leeds, I’d prefer Riera with him up top at the very least, someone has to be on who can score.
You don’t get out of this with that luxury midfield so that needs breaking up. Part of me wants to pot Callum to the bench but there’s always that chance he can create something.
I think Kvist could be someone to get back in, just so the likes of McCann get forward.
I’m even considering Captain Calamity could be the answer at the back for some much needed experience of a dogfight. New lows reached.Are Waghorn and Ramis ever coming back? They could be what keeps us up or takes us down imo.
We can all speculate on here how the team should be set up and who should play.
Nothing wrong with that, it’s what this forum is for. However, we aren’t professional football managers – badges and all – and don’t see the players day in day out in training, which makes our views considerably less valid.I don’t know what Mackay is trying to do either by playing McClean in the position he was on Saturday. Maybe Mackay thinks the options he has at his disposal aren’t any better and from what I’ve seen so far can’t argue with that. The thing is we are also giving daft goals away and the options at the back are equally disappointing. Barnett is embarrassingly poor, Boyce struggling and Ramis will only ever be a part-time player because of his injuries. I really can see Caldwell ever putting a Wigan shirt on again but even if he did he won’t be hitting the ground running. It a mess and I’m not sure whatever manager you bring in will fare any better with the players we’ve got.
There shouldn’t even be a need to bring anyone in. I bet our relegation rivals must envy some of the players we have.
A world cup playing left back out on loan in Tenerife.
A proven goal scorer out on loan at Huddersfield.
One of the main stars in Scotland’s revival.
A Welsh international youngster.
Another world cup playing midfielder.
A Danish international.
A right sided midfielder with so much natural talent.
Scotland’s captain for years.
Even young Tavernier who can not get in our shambles would walk back in with open arms to the Rotherham side who out played us on Saturday.And regarding a good few of those players you’ve just proved my point.
With regards to this thread topic do you really think sacking managers is the way to go? Three managers in less than one year, increasingly woeful performances under all three yet sacking managers is the solution to the problem?
To be fair Sammy, the lad has been here for 5 games now. How much longer does he actually need to sort thsi ou without being able to bring in any of his own players?
I see he has mentined again that Holt is due back on 1st Jan, so he obviously fancies giving him a go.[/quote]
I agree, Middlesbrough game apart, he has failed so far. Maybe his authority in the dressing room is being compromised because of the text messages and FA charge hanging over him which is why I believe he should never have been appointed in the first place.
Anyway, Whelan still has that no strings – money that is – get out clause written into his contract so depending on the FA outcome things may well change.
With regards to this thread topic do you really think sacking managers is the way to go? Three managers in less than one year, increasingly woeful performances under all three yet sacking managers is the solution to the problem?
This situation is reminiscent of the team Jewell inherited except back then there was the will, desire and finances to change things. Much more difficult to halt the slide on the way down with the money drying up. And of course we have the added problem, as SW said, of being perceived as a poorly supported, racist club who don’t pay very well. Do you think the club is in a position to gamble again on a 32 year-old forward on a £28k per week contract for three years?
This team is a mismatch of ageing players, cast-offs and those who are just not good enough. A major restructure is required. A difficult proposition for any club but a desperate one for Wigan Athletic.
Another thread on course to be locked by the moderators.
Are you or were you a school teacher by any chance?
First time I’ve posted for around a year maybe, been logging in and seeing it all, however it’s really lost some of its characters. Seems to be same folk driving newer posters away, or same folk stamping down on any craic that is generated.
Hope it gets a little busier next year, and the temporary poor form of the team is short lived with it.
And that’s why my grandson (and some of his friends) stay clear of commenting on this board.
I’m just a “daft old twat” here at the annoyance of some on this board – there you go eh?[/quote]
Yet you’re one of those that is always having said arguments? Weird eh?
Like Sammy says, if you post codswallop on a public forum you should be prepared to take the flack for it.[/quote]
Like I said to the fat lad, in previous deliberations, I’m not the one changing topics/threads to suit a point of view or point score in a discussion. If ever I were guilty of posting codswallop then I would accept any flack coming my way. You really need to separate your blinkered view of what goes on between the disagreements I have with people here and the observations I make on football related topics – after all it’s all opinion isn’t it. Or, have you jumped on the bandwagon too of what mighty_aff is alluding to in that if nothing fits within your little quadrant society then they must be talking bollox and have no place on this forum and therefore must need to be ‘moved along’?
Edit: by the way, where in that quote or indeed the thread, has anyone mentioned “said arguments”?[/quote]
Like I said in my previous post it’s how you react to “criticism” – if that’s what you perceive it to be – of your views. A flippant attitude is probably needed.
Merry Christmas.
If you go on a public forum to express your views you must be prepared to take the flack that will undoubtedly come your way. Some people are more sensitive to that than others and it’s really is down to how you handle it.
I tend not to take things too seriously on here and therefore don’t let myself get wound up over what is, after all, only banter.
