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Lisa Nandy, London liberal elite parachuted into a safe Labour seat, a million miles away from the people she is supposed to represent!
Really pleased with Cookies appointment, got a good feeling about this one or is it the Cava I’m drinking, either way I’m looking forward to next season.
Interesting insight into the history on suicide bombing, overall felt like I was watching 2 stories with no real connection but a very good documentary. Cheers Fil
The point I was trying to make was, Was Trump right in his extreme vetting plan,
It was not about cockney latics finest brains trying to get one over the UK intelligence services and border control. I’m sure they would be able to identify people of interest to them.
So I’ll try again. Did Trump have a point?
Let me put it this way.
Where would a terrorist go if he wanted to commit an atrocity in the west?
A. the country where he will be vetted possibly detained when trying to enter.
or
B. the country where he can walk straight in no questions asked.
It’s not rocket science fellas
Egg, genuine will have nothing to fear because they would be able to explain themselves.
Stu, Passports can be traced to where they have been previously, they could come via France we would still know they had visited Libya.
How do you stop A UK CITIZEN from entering THE UK?Read my reply to Garswood again Egg, “because ANYBODY travelling back” UK citizen, black or white it doesn’t matter who you are you would need to explain yourself.
and we shouldn’t be brainwashed into thinking all mass murders in the UK have been carried out by muslim terrorists. Hungerford, Dunblane and Whitehaven instantly spring to mind.
The difference is Mutley, Hungerford. Dunblane and Whitehaven were carried out by lone nutjobs. The nature of Islamic terrorism is that it’s about ideology and the sad fact is, is that it is estimated that between 15% and 25% of the worlds Muslims despise the west, so no need to panic.[/quote]
And 75% of statistics are made up on the spot!![/quote]
I went on line to research the number, try it yourself Bongmon.Perhaps if western governments stopped pursuing its policy of regime change by invading, destabilising and causing untold destruction in predominately Muslim countries to protect the interests of the rich and powerful then the rise of Islamic extremist groups might not have occurred.
Is that not chicken and the egg though Sammy? The countries invaded are those usually the ones that support and assist terrorism and in some cases fund it. Christ knows how we combat it but I cannot see negotiations working with the extremists.[/quote]
Why aren’t we invading Saudi Arabia then?[/quote]
Sammy you’ve just defeated your own augment with that one.The Saudis have no reason to dislike us, we went to war to defend their country yet it seems that a lot of Islamic terrorism can be traced back to them.
In light of the Manchester attack maybe Trump had a point with regards to his extreme vetting travel ban from 7 mainly Islamic countries, one of which was Libya.
And how would that have prevented someone who was born and raised in this country?[/quote]
Because anybody traveling back from one of those countries would have to go through extreme vetting, questions would of been asked “what were you doing in Libya?” “why did you visit Syria?” “how have you funded your trip”.
Or we can carry on allowing someone with extremist views back into the UK after visiting a failed state without having to explain themselves!
In light of the Manchester attack maybe Trump had a point with regards to his extreme vetting travel ban from 7 mainly Islamic countries, one of which was Libya.
and we shouldn’t be brainwashed into thinking all mass murders in the UK have been carried out by muslim terrorists. Hungerford, Dunblane and Whitehaven instantly spring to mind.The difference is Mutley, Hungerford. Dunblane and Whitehaven were carried out by lone nutjobs. The nature of Islamic terrorism is that it’s about ideology and the sad fact is, is that it is estimated that between 15% and 25% of the worlds Muslims despise the west, so no need to panic.
Southport, Notts County, Hartlepool and Grimsby all away.F**kin ell! I wont be going Grimsby, I’ve seen the movie.
What does need to change is that these hate preachers that we see on the streets need to be arrested and I include people like the EDL in that. What we cannot do is bring in “special measures” for muslims because 99.9% are law abiding citizens who bring a great amount to this country. The problem is weeding out the idiots and we should start with the hate preachers.Eggy, the problem is that these Hate preachers do it behind closed doors.
There was a programme on the TV about 6 months ago it was called something like the terrorists amongst us, it was possibly a panorama episode it is worth a watch and will give you an insight into the problem we face.
