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Max Power from Tranmere is meant to be on our radar again! Great name !
He’s the man whose name you’d love to touch, but you mustn’t touch.
Yeah very sustainable, That’s why we can’t pay transfer fee’s for anyone and keep selling any player on any kind od decent wage. All those hundreds of millions that were made and now all of a sudden wages can no longer be paid.
:- I said Dave Whelan would walk if Latics weren’t promoted within the parachute payments and every asset will be sold – I was right
:- I said the club would end up in a far worse state than when he arrived, it’s starting to look as if i am right.
:- When it becomes obvious that David Sharpe can’t get the club back Granddad will tell him to take what he can and walk
:- Wigan Athletic will eventually get to the stage where they can’t afford the rent and will eventually get kicked out of the stadium. Anyone who thinks this isn’t possible because Uncle Dave said they will always play there, long term lease etc blah blah. He has never screwed any business over that doesn’t turn a profit has he?
:- Ground sharing at Leigh Sports Village looking forward to local derbies with FC United and Stockport.
I presume you’re fishing Yosser, but I’ll humour you and bite:
- Yes is it very sustainable. You buy young players, develop them, and sell them on for a profit. It’s how Crewe and to a lesser extent, Middlesbrough have operated for years. If/when the new training ground and academy is finished, this can be used as a farm for young players as we simply do not have the resources to buy a new squad every season.
- When have wages not been paid? I think you’re confusing Wigan with someone like Leeds or Portsmouth who were poorly financially managed.
- The hundreds of millions have gone on the running of the club, servicing debts, and paying players’ wages (all of which available to read the club’s published accounts)
- Whelan walked because of his monumental cock-up in appointing and attempting to support Mackay. Nothing to do with not winning promotion.
- Whelan hasn’t made a profit from the club. What he got from his association with the club was the chance to get in front of the TV cameras at the drop of a hat, and once he’d made himself look silly and nobody wanted his views anymore, that’s when he decided to quietly slip away into the background.
- And if he has left with parachute payments, no wonder all those players left in January because they obviously weren’t being paid.
- In what way is the club in a worse state than when he arrived? I am genuinely baffled by that statement.
- How is David Sharpe supposed to ‘get the club back’? He’s not the manager, nor a player. He’ll be going nowhere as buyers aren’t exactly queuing up and there’s too much Whelan money invested into the club to merely walk away.
- Do Wigan Athletic actually pay rent? I’m sure they don’t pay anything for using the stadium. The stadium is owned by the Whelan family so why would they throw the football club out while they still own both? If the club is ever sold, they will invariably include the stadium within that sale.
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Thanks for the reply Standish, I genuinely appreciate the feedback. However, naturally, i can’t agree. Also you have mistaken me saying we are in a worse state that we were pre-Whelan. I said we will be as a consequence of the asset stripping. Think about the logics of it all, Yeah we played under the guidance of Whelan’s financial master plan on our way up the leagues and there was no danger. Now we are heading in the opposite direction, a 25,000 seater stadium which carries all it’s bills (and rent’s, i assure you Wigan Athletic pay Dave Whelan, Whelco, Wigan Athletic holdings or whatever he calls his business account these days, A rent) The3 maths don’t add up. This club is going to drain money every single week. It will bleed straight out of the council funded sides of the stadium quicker than a hemophiliac on a belt sander. I know you all think i am ‘Thick’ ‘Know nowt’ ‘idiot’ ‘clown’ and whatever other profanity you want to throw my way but can somebody prove me wrong? you can trawl through my past posts over the past 5 years or so and you can prove me right if you like because i assure you, About 90% of what i have been predicting for this club has come true so far. I don’t just brazenly make these comments for attention or to cause a stir (well not all the time) I don’t understand why everyone thinks the sun shines out of his (whelan’s) anus apart from the old clichés obviously.
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.
Whelsn walked because of his cock up, Sorry but that is bullshit. He has been threatening to walk for one reason or another since Martinez’s last season, Blaming the faithful fans most of the time (lovely man)[/quote]
You do realise our U18s just won the Lancashire Cup and came within a bugs dick of winning the league don’t you? Also that 3 of those were given debuts in the first team? Two being Wigan season ticket holders? Not bad for a club with no academy.
Har har de fuckin har! Still seen more live action than you though over the last 14 seasons eh! You need to knock a few years off your username !
Really? Have you been on your Bob’s mushrooms?
Firstly, how exactly do you “knock years” off a user name of ‘Griff’?
Secondly, I seem to recall you once bragging that you’d only missed 8 or so home games since we moved to the new stadium. So, that puts me those 8 in front of you in the last 14 years, plus all the JJB/DW games in the two years before that (1999-2015 is 16 years, not 14), plus the last few years at Springy (though I confess I can’t reacall if I went to all of those as well as I can the new stadium, I’m sure I misese done or two) plus all our home friendlies since 1999, and that’s before I even get on to away games.
You do know what away games are, don’t you? Mind you, if you can’t manage a full home game, it’s understandable if you can’t manage an away game.
If you get in quickly with your new seat application, I believe there’s a space next to the drummer. Hurry![/quote]
I don’t think he was talking to you ;)[/quote]
Oh yeah, sorry Phil :blush:[/quote]
This board isn’t about you you know
Har har de fuckin har! Still seen more live action than you though over the last 14 seasons eh! You need to knock a few years off your username !
Really? Have you been on your Bob’s mushrooms?
Firstly, how exactly do you “knock years” off a user name of ‘Griff’?
Secondly, I seem to recall you once bragging that you’d only missed 8 or so home games since we moved to the new stadium. So, that puts me those 8 in front of you in the last 14 years, plus all the JJB/DW games in the two years before that (1999-2015 is 16 years, not 14), plus the last few years at Springy (though I confess I can’t reacall if I went to all of those as well as I can the new stadium, I’m sure I misese done or two) plus all our home friendlies since 1999, and that’s before I even get on to away games.
You do know what away games are, don’t you? Mind you, if you can’t manage a full home game, it’s understandable if you can’t manage an away game.
If you get in quickly with your new seat application, I believe there’s a space next to the drummer. Hurry![/quote]
I don’t think he was talking to you ;)
Really?
Ok, we’ve had 2 relegations in 3 seasons and we’re back in the league where Dave Whelan found us. However, despite his “countless money grabbing”, in the last 20 years we’ve seen moments we never thought possible and club, although in the same division is now a totally different one from that he took over. Off the pitch, stadium, support wise and financially the club is much healthier than it was in 1995.Not too bad for all that money grabbing…the important thing now, is that Gary Caldwell is given reasonable time and resources to get the job right and take us back up the league
We are a league above where Whelan found us and in a far better state financially.
Yosser, we can afford transfer fees we just choose not to pay the millions some clubs ask for or the inflated wage some players demand.
So things didn’t go right on the pitch, but off it we are probably one of the best run clubs there is.
Have you really gone back FIVE YEARS to make that point?
Maybe the player WANTED to leave?
I don’t drink Champagne or have a garden??!!
Prices are quite good really.
I enjoyed that PNE aren’t up yet, but it’s a shame that they were replaced by Franchise FC.
I was there then Vince and I’m looking forward to it. Yes I wish we were still in the Prem, but as a fan I was no longer enjoying football. Turning up to games expecting to lose and when you give it a go you get shafted by officials. Players feining injury and basically cheating. No thanks. Good hard honest football for me and if I can have a good day out as well then even better.
I watched us rise, I’ve watched us fall. Bring on the next chapter.
Nah. Fortune on his own. It’s the future.
Maybe he has bigger fish to fry?
Maguire? Kim? Pennant?Nothing more than mercenaries.
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