We’ll have to agree to disagree, but he was!!! As I ref if 2 players are both grabbing I’ll ask em to let go. If one lets go & the other doesn’t I’ll give a foul against the player still holding. If neither of em let go then I won’t give anything. If one player commits a separate foul then I’ll give that
That’s why I think the Serb wound up getting punished although in this instance I think he’d have been better giving nowt

The referee saw it & clearly didn’t give it (you can tell by his arm signal when there are some half hearted appeals) – It seems to have been the VAR official who has told him that he might want to have another look at it.

He’s then made one of the worst decisions that I’ve ever seen and awarded a penalty – Handball is the only offence where the laws mention intent. It has to be deliberate for it to be an offence. You can sometimes infer intent by the position of the players arms but that was meant for instances like Caldwell used to do regularly where he used to charge out for a block with his arms above his head. Or I remember Latics playing away at West Brom & getting a penalty when the WBA defender jumped up with both arms above his head, it missed his arms but Liddell then headed against them from behind. You do that & it hits your arm then its a penalty.
In this instance the Danish player jumps up & his arms have been used to assist his jump & to help him get airborne & are in a natural position for that. He’s on his way down & has turned away & the ball is headed from no more than a yard away against his hand. Never a penalty in a million years

Problem is that the ref then starts watching it from 20 different angles & slowed down & just like a still of a challenge can make it look far worse than it actually was (just like the one City fans were posting of some challenge from a Latics mon from our cup game when they were whinging Delph shouldn’t have been sent off). When looked at trough slow motion it gives a completely false impression of what was happening & he’s changed his mind

Absolutely shocking decision

Today on the other hand, VAR got it spot on with the Neymar “penalty” but I’m more concerned as to why the ref thought it was a penalty in the first place & why he then didn’t caution Neymar for clear simulation

Phil Neville came out with the best analysis and was spot on. Even after VAR there was doubt in the decision some saying penalty some saying not so if there is no clear cut verdict then a penalty should not have been awarded. Would like to hear Tyldesley,s verdict on it . I’m with crammy on this for me its not working properly.[/quote]

I don’t like it & all the reasons in the past that I’ve said why I don’t like it have all been borne out so far in both the FA Cup last season & the brief bits I’ve seen of the World Cup so far.
That France one was a penalty though & I’m not sure how the ref missed the one in the Sweden game earlier

I will say though that I’ll reserve judgement on how it’s used at the World Cup until I’ve seen it being used all the way through, as FIFA are using it slightly differently to how the FA did last season

There is clearly some issue with the time & cost of producing them or the clubs wouldn’t have asked for a vote on their future & then voted to not make them compulsory for clubs

Its just a matter of choice.
Personally I prefer to stand up to watch football & always have and I also feel that it improves the atmosphere.
If people prefer to sit down then that’s their choice.

People should be given the choice though just as they are everywhere other than the top 2 divisions of English football which is ludicrous.
Sport is all about emotions and there are times when people feel compelled to stand up whether its an attack or a goal or whatever. By creating standing sections those who like to stand at such times can do so without annoying the people who are sat behind around them.

I can’t find anything anywhere about gradients & that being the reason why WBA had their request for a trial area turned down. As far as I can see it was turned down purely because they were in the top 2 divisions at the time of the request

I don’t get that point – the safe standing areas have a crush barrier on every row so what does the steepness of the terrace have to do with it? If anything, you’ve far less chance of tumbling over the crush barrier than you have of going over a seat (as I did at Wembley). And you can’t slip under them either coz there’s an upright seat bolted in place.
Not having a go at all. I just don’t get the argument about the gradient of the terracing. If it’s safe enough to walk down the stairs with no hand rail then it should be safe enough with a barrier every few feet

I’m sure that there’s Different rules in international football & the home team changed their kit if there’s a clash

He didn;t mean that the club would lose £10mill a season in the championship he said that’s how much it would cost
The club would of course be taking money in through gate receipts, sponsorship, TV money etc.

Anyway, Dave Whelan (or anybody else for that matter) wouldn’t have to lose £10mill a season although they’d still have to cover a short fall that might put a light dent in our own sky rockets!!!