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True JR and he could be first choice yet. Just hope the Brighton lad isn’t on a stupid contract like last year’s loan keeper flops.
Apparently he isn’t on one of these if fit he must play deals. Confirmed by Paul Kendrick
The football magazine Shoot, football cards and Elton Welsby on the Friday night TV show Kick Off.
The cardboard league tables in shoot/match magazine………did anyone actually change them around after each match?
It would be a pain in the arse these days with all the different match days and times.[/quote]I used to change em every Monday – then at the end of the season I sellotaped it all in place.
If you did change them round regularly the little tabs used to tear all the time. Cheap rubbish!!Ringing ‘Clubcall’ to get any info on Latics.
You forgot horc the mother of all bollockings because the subsequent phone bill was the size of the national debt.[/quote]
Unless you do what I did & used a mate’s phone & let him take the rap instead!!![/quote]
That happened to my son, but his mate had been ringing ‘sex chat lines’, and blamed my lad. I put his dad right when he came knocking on our door. His mate was grounded for a fortnight and had to pay it back with a weekend job. He learn’t his lesson though.[/quote]
To be fair what I chose my target carefully – he’d already been rumbled with the pervy lines so his parents got an itemised bill every month/quarter. When the 0898 number appeared on their bill they assumed he’d just been up to his old tricks. Can’t remember whether he got grounded but I did confess years later to his parents.
Along with smashing their living room light once which he also got the blame forRinging ‘Clubcall’ to get any info on Latics.
You forgot horc the mother of all bollockings because the subsequent phone bill was the size of the national debt.[/quote]
Unless you do what I did & used a mate’s phone & let him take the rap instead!!!
Hang on am i missing something?Caldwell caused ill feeling because he signed players outside the recruitment policy and was given the boot, then who rubber stamped those signings? (Or did Caldwell fund the signings from his own pocket?)
In comes YFJ and is given a free reign bringing in duds and crocks that he knew from Utd? Albeit these signing were made in January when most of the people connected with Latics knew YFJ was bloody clueless, same question….Who rubber stamped those signings?
Scratching my head at that one pal!
Not sure what there is to scratch your head about.
Sharpe set up the transfer committee so that the mistakes of the Rosler era were not repeated.
Caldwell doesn’t seem to have been a fan of it & (as another poster has stated) put his foot down about signings that the committee were against. Sharpe backed his manager (as I’d expect a chairman to do) & many of the committee’s concerns about players were proved right. When those players struggled & results weren’t going our way it gave Sharpe the excuse to bin him offSame thing really in the Joyce era – Sharpe backed his manager as you would expect a chairman to do & it backfired.
Yes Sharpe was in charge during both of these periods but he clearly wasn’t happy with recruitment & has put a system in place to try & ensure that they’re not repeated.
Sharpe’s made mistakes & no doubt will do again in the future but he does appear to be trying to learn from them
The recent signings were lined up prior to him arriving but Cook gave them the all clear to bring them in.
It’s widely accepted that Caldwell’s signings were his men & no doubt led to his departure probably sooner than most expected coz it had caused a bit of ill feeling between him & Sharpe coz he wasn’t using what Sharpe (& Matt Jackson) had put in place.
Now I’m baffled tilders lad, you say the committee is there to sort out transfers the manager identifies then you reckon Caldwell gets sacked for using his choices not those of Sharpie and co. This is my very gripe I want the manager to pick his players and if like Caldwell they flop miserably then you can the guy for being inept. I believe PC is the right guy for this club and I trust him to build a good side, I don’t trust Sharpey and co to do the same. I want the latter to do their proper job and run the club in the same brilliant way grandad did. Cookie has Peter Reid with him and there is more than enough experience there to handle the playing side of things. Sharpey has a tough enough job on his hands as it is.
We’re obviously talking at cross purposes then. My point (whoever convoluted I may have made it!!) was that posters are having a dig at the transfer committee when most of the dud buys in recent times have been the ones pushed through by the manager when those at the top of the club were a bit iffy about them to say the least.
Personally, rather than leaving it solely down to the manager, as you do, I prefer the system the club is trying to put in place but agree that the manager needs a final yay or nay on them.The recruitemnt side of things is obviously something that those at the top are not happy with – I believe it lay behind the relatively quick sacking of Caldwell but the fact that Jackson was also pushed out leads me to believe that Sharpe wasn’t happy with how that was working either.
if the relationship & job delegation between manager & the committee is clear & agreed by all concerned (& Cook certainly seems to have agreed to it) then there is no problem.
I was just a bit baffled as to how Shrewsbury signing a keeper on loan could be linked to a criticism of the transfer committee or the decision to release a 40 odd year old keeper & another keeper forcing a move
The recent signings were lined up prior to him arriving but Cook gave them the all clear to bring them in.
It’s widely accepted that Caldwell’s signings were his men & no doubt led to his departure probably sooner than most expected coz it had caused a bit of ill feeling between him & Sharpe coz he wasn’t using what Sharpe (& Matt Jackson) had put in place.
When virtually every signing brought in under Joyce had been with him at United (including Obertan) it’s pretty clear that these were Joyce’s men rather than any committee.
No (or little) blame attached to any transfer committee & some even argue that Sharpe & Jackson should have refused some of these signings.On top of that Cook has no doubt had the committee method of recruitment explained to him & accepted it in spite of Pompey offering him increased terms. He’s happy with it yet some fans think they know better.
In terms of the keepers – jasskelainen was past it. Gilks was an average keeper signed from the reserves of a 3rd place team in an extremely poor league. There are far better out there than him & I’ve no doubt that both Cook & the committee are working on brining one or 2 in yet people are flapping coz with 4 & a bit weeks to the start of the season we haven’t brought one in. Gilks also engineered his move away.
Back to your original point I just don’t see the link between Shrewsbury signing an u20 from United & the committee being poor despite having brought in 3 players already all of whom were being courted by other Lge1 clubs
What has Shrewsbury making that signing got to do with the right or wrongs of Latics transfer workings??
If Latics had signed him people would be whinging about another young loanee gaining experience for his parent club rather than the long term benefit of Latics – just like they are at the possibility of the Brighton lad coming.The idea of the committee is that they help the manager identify players & scout any that the manager requests. If the manager gives them the nod they then deal with the other club, the player & the agents so that the manager can concentrate on coaching the first team.
From what we know Caldwell forced signings on the club that they weren’t happy with & we’re now saddled with a large squad that’s top heavy with a lot of dross that we’ll struggle to get rid of (Woolery, Whitehead etc..,). Likewise from the number of players he brought in that he’d worked with at United, Joyce was the driver behind the players brought in in January.
It’s getting a balance right between having something in place that allows the manager to concentrate on his primary job whilst allowing him the ultimate day in incoming & outgoing transfers
If I’m honest, I never saw him play, but if none of the 3 managers who were here during his time saw fit to play him (even one as bad as Joyce), then that to me is pretty good indication that he wasn’t good enough
Here’s the first teaser!!!
https://www.wiganathletic.com/news/2017/july/first-glimspe-of-the-new-wigan-athletic-home-shirt/
Scored a couple of screamers but for me never showed the quality needed at the time enough for me to think he would have made a good signing for us
This blows the conspiracy theories out of the water – about it being a front for him wanting to stay in the Championship etc.He’s having talks with Notts County. Looks like the club were telling the truth.
To be fair to the conspiracy theorists, even the chairman of Notts County says he thinks that he’ll go the Championship
Would be manager alert…..
Why not just let Cookie do his job, eh?
Cheers
Actually I have managed albeit Sunday League but I still had a go. One thing it it did teach me is that you need more than one goalie.[/quote]
Technically, if you look at Latics squad list, we already have more than one ;)
I agree that it seems an odd move but he is an easily replaceable keeper. More than good enough for Lge1 admittedly but if he wanted to go & (as it appears) Cook already has a replacement lined up then I wont be crying over it.
The way some people are going on its like we’ve allowed the new Gordon Banks to slip through our grasps & we haven’t – we’ve released a guy who (up until January) was a back up keeper in a poor Rangers side in a poor leagueWe should have about 3 fit keepers, 2 at a minimum. Who are our keepers then?
Lavercombe who nobody seems to fancy.[/quote]
see him in action here:
In my humble opinion he should have done better with the 1st, 2nd & 4th goals
