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Ah well, I’ve read comments this morning from Maloney about why he stopped Stones playing for Oldham in the cup at the weekend, to stop him getting cup tied.
“We expect to have him back around the 6th of January…”
So there you go. Get Stones back in and build it up as being like a new signing.
That’s their way of thinking. It’s scrimping and penny pinching all the time. If that’s how Maloney is thinking, he deserves any shit he gets. Stones looked way off the ball when he last played for us, so do they think he’s going to come back from a couple of months at at Oldham and be a world beater?
Unless they get their fingers out and start running this club with some semblance of actual ambition, I don’t think I’ll go another game this season. I keep thinking something will happen and it will get better…but how will it it we just go round in circles like that?
It’s shite.
Fair enough.
Rankine is a poor man’s Lee Jenkinson. (Remenber him?) Was he REALLY on Chelsea’s books? Because I’m not so sure.
Gets on the ball, looks the part, shite all end result. Every time.
ALL the loan players need fuckinh right off and with the total 8k a week wages we will save, we need to use that on a striker. And a decent striker at that. Sze is nowhere near good enough.
It’s a really bad Wigan Athletic side this. Reminds me of 1993 when we got relegated to the bottom tier. Horrible to watch.
Why is Matt Smith playing like a sweeper role? It’s bizarre.
Still too many bellends on social media sticking up for Maloney…what will it take?
We are the most apathetic fan base going. We really are. Just put up with too much shite…”be grateful we have a club..”. Oh p#££ off!
Them lot over the hill have to be close to releiving Evatt of his duties. And you know what? They’ll probably move for Mark Robins now he’s available. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Whilst we’ll still be stuck with Mr Touchy-Face. Even he knows he’s shite. And look at the attendances? Dropping more and more. If nothing is done, we will go down and be pulling in 4k crowds next season, giving Danson the perfect excuse to ship us out to Leigh Sports Village. Maybe that’s the plan all along?
We’re dying.
We’ve missed put on so much sponsorship and investment over the years. In the majority of the Premier league years, we had either JJB of D.W. Sports as the stadium “sponsor”. But how do you give money to yourself, for something you own? So all those years where we had a great opportunity to attract decent sponsorship for the stadium, and we missed out on it. We even had JJB as our lit manufacturer and also our front of shirt sponsorship. Why? Yes, it maximised brand exposure for our owner and his businesses. But look where JJB is now…gone. So that did well then…
The income we missed out on though, due to that cronyism. As soon as the Whelan’s sold up, we were f@&£d big time. With them steering the ship, and backing the managers, we did amazingly well over the years.
From the moment they went, we were dodging sea mines. The nightmare of Choi, then Talal and his gang, we’ve just not had proper financial management of the club since the Whelan’s went. We now have the wealthiest owner we will likely every have, but to what aim or end, none of us are actually sure, or convinced.
Any owner at whatever level, really has to put some money into a club somewhere along the line. You have to have ambition and aims, or else why bother? At the moment, I’ve no idea what our actual aim is. I can tell you what my fear is though. My fear is we sink into the relegation mire and I fear we wouldn’t get out of it. Wigan Athletic in League Two? Well, it’s happened to Bradford and they get really good home gates. And if we do fall down to League Two, if Danson really does want to see us progress, he’s then going to have to spend even more money. The trouble is, we will be a harder sell to attract players, so the task of getting a good side together will be even harder. If we did fall down this season, we need to pack in with signing loads of loan players. There is no longevity to it. It’s our own players we need to bring through and pick up players who are OUR players who we can sell on in the future. Having a squad full of loan players means your losing out on having any value into the squad. I’ve no doubt we will be lucky to have Tickle and Asgaard after the transfer window. That will be two really big losses. Can we replace them without spending money? No. Don’t forget we’ve sold Charlie Hughes already. Some of that money shouldve been used for strengthening. I am surprised at the poor quality of the players we have brought in. None have impressed me especially. Maybe I set my sights too high.I stand by what I said.
Part of me has sympathy for Maloney because it sounds like he’s doing the work of ten men, when all he should be concentrating on is managing the team. But if he’s daft enough to do it, more fool him.
Bringing in a 33 year old defender when we are crying out for a real centre forward, I am scratching my head. We lack goals and you could merge Taylor and Hugill together and you still wouldn’t have Pat Gavin. Yes, Pat Gavin, a wanton journeyman who we picked up free in 1993. He came in, scored a few goals, was never a world beater but did for us at the time.
And that’s what we need right now. The attendance tomorrow is going to be very poor I think. Honestly, I’ve no intention of going to a game any time soon. Nothing is whetting the appetite.
We really did our very best to lose that game.
Why did he make so many subs in the second half? And we played “let’s hang on” again and came unstuck.
Really good first half, and Blackpool were shocking. Last half hour…we were shocking and we were very lucky not to lose that game, thanks to Maloney.
Get him gone.
We’re far too slow.
They were crisper and played some good stuff.
Why was our only tactic 2nd half to get that winger on left knocking balls into the box? We’ve no proper tall striker in there.
We look like a relegation team, to be honest.
Blackpool away next. They’re on a shocking run. And we all know what will happen, don’t we?
Get shut of him. Now. Needs an experienced man to come in and sort this.
Also…
Get an experienced manager in with his own staff and let them turn the shitshow around.
Tony Pulis or Mick McCarthy.
Either would do much better with this squad.
Nothing fancy, more industrial football. We’re Wigan Athletic, not Barcelona. Until Martinez we were a direct team. Direct under Mathias, Deehan, Benson, even Paul Jewell had us direct and going 442 and it served us well. How many goals did we score off a long punt up for Ellington and Roberts, or Teale crossing over and McCulloch smashing a header in? Loads.
We are what we are. We’re Wigan Athletic, we do better off direct football and that is an absolute fact.
Just watched a podcast of ex stoke players talking about Tony Pulis and how tough pre season and training was under him. Proper old school. He told them “you might not be the best squad, but you’ll be the f****** fittest.”
We need someone like that here. I don’t want us to have a likeable manager who like, yet us be struggling and playing shite. I’d sooner us have a bit of a “don’t give a shit” gobshite in charge and be playing better and winning games. Someone like Tony Pulis could absolutely turn this club around. Our last 3 managers have had little experience, and we’ve had a mixed bag with them. Richardson, Kolo the Klown, and now Baloney. Can you see the pattern here? Make a proper appointment for a change. Stop looking for easy or cheaper options. It’s cost us so much already.
Go for an experienced manager, let them bring in their own staff and let’s turn this absolute shit show around.
Anybody who thinks things are alright is absolutely deluded. Or maybe they’re a club plant? It’s been known for the club to have ‘influencers’ on forums.
Football is supposed to be entertainment. Something for the working man, as it was, to go to for enjoyment at the end of a hard working week. A release, something to take your mind off the daily grind.
What we have at Latics, is an absolute farce. An owner who doesn’t seem interested, a manager who is nowhere near a manager. And a team of never will he’s…we haven’t got any hasbeens, just a load of young players who are NOT good enough.
This unbeaten in how many games…oh please! Its been dire. Nil nils against teams that Paul Cook’s Latics would have smashed 4 or 5 goals in against. And easy. Yet we hardly had a shot. Very very poor.
But today, that’s alarm bells ringing. A Cambridge team who had lost their last 6 games. Beat us 2 nil. Wow…thats really bad. I think we’ve sank to new lows today. If Maloney has anything about him, he would walk. Buy he won’t.
The club…management and coaching staff needs a COMPLETE overhaul. Rioch should go too. He’s scouted these players…absolutely shocking. The only player we’ve brought in who has potential to be a good signing, is Aimson. The squad is still awfully short and threadbare. Lacking in several places. That’s so worrying.We are in serious danger with a manager who is poor. He’s same as he was at Hibernian. Trying to paint the Mona Lisa with crayons. Any manager or coach worth their salt works with the players they have. Don’t try to do what you’re not good at, play to your strengths.
I was never entertained last season either, I was bored to tears by the sideways and backwards shite. Not renewing this season, it’s the best choice I could have made. The club is dying…I think we will sink into the relegation quagmire if we don’t make a drastic change here.
I’d love us to get a nasty shithouse type manager in. Someone who won’t mess about and will call a spade a spade. Who? Big Mick?I’d have him over this clown. Any day. Failing him…Big Duncan would come, I reckon. No fuss, no bull, just sort it out.
Can’t drag on, make the change now. A total change as well. No in-house crap. A fresh canvas…a new artist.
Theyll still count ST holders who don’t bother going though.
It’s not the football I grew up loving. It bores me.
Maybe I just don’t like the modern game anymore?
Just got back and if you think Maloney’s the man then come off the meds.
M.Smith centre half to allow chamber’s push up ? seriously?, Taylor on his last legs 15-20 to go ? …..doesn’t bring Stones on like for like ?Look Maloney’s shit, grade 1 turd 4 x 0-0’s in 5 ? Utter clueless get shut get shut now.
I’m sick of it tbh that was wankI’ve got to be honest, since I’ve stopped going, my head feels a lot better and my BP has come down.
Listen, the whole thing of football at the moment pisses me off. It’s all about not conceding rather than trying to score. It’s supposed to be Entertainment and I cannot remember being entertained much by Latics sides over the past 3 or 4 seasons. It’s been a shitshow, and it’s got worse and worse, year by year.
Maloney is not a manager. A coach at best. But for his club history, he’s no different to Kolo The Klown.
My matchdays are taken up with different things now and I can honestly say I don’t miss it. Sad after 38 years, I know.
I don’t even know who our next game is against? Can’t say I’m bothered, to be quite honest.
There are far more better qualified people on this board to discuss style of play and tactics than me and i follow the simplistics of the game followed by many a great manager back when i started watching football almost 50 years ago.
For me after watching past two games is that Latics current style is keep the ball at all costs , lose possession then win a throw in and start again and follow same pattern but never attack unless something is on which it rarely is because they hardly ever get near the goal.
All any team has to do to nullify this tactic in my view is to high press and get in faces and possession will be lost and hit then high intensity balls into the area and get the breaks.
We have got away with it these past three games but i bet we dont tomorrow night unless some changes are made and a go for it attitude is adopted like the Bristol Rovers game.
There is pace in the team so why not use it and get the ball wide and whip quick fire crosses in and see what happens , its old school and not cool but FFS its far easier on the eye than this current rubbish and so simple to express to players.
The whole game from top to bottom sickens me at the moment anyway , the corporate running out and lining up , the faux badge kissing,thwe ridiculous group huddles, do it in the dressing room FFS , the over coaching and analysis to avoid defeat and the sly goading of home/away by players towards fans with hands held to ears bull that we see across the game whenever a goal is scored.
Add to that the rolling around , patting the turf whenever they are tapped to get somebody sent off which sadly has spread to the lower divisions now needs dealing with by the authorities.
Had enough of it all , better places and things to do with my time.Very good points, and I agree.
The problem is though if we do manage to start whipping balls into the box is we haven’t got the player who will get on the end of them. The last one we had was Will Keane. And if we are going to try that, we definitely need to get more people into the box.
Modern football…is shite. Everyone is so stuck on playing the ‘Pep Way’. It’s not for me. I like to see wing play, balls whipped in…
…and two up front.
Piss off with the 3 centre backs as well. Be a bit more positive.
Bloody entertain us. Let the shackles off the players. Stop over analysing and working on the opposition. Worry about ourselves doing it right.
Only went today because my lad didn’t go.
Won’t be going to another game before new year now.
It’s awful and I’ve better ways to spend my time. I’ve just got into crafts and model making.
I’m getting older and can’t be arsed with the cowd.
You know what though? Personally speaking, I actually thought that Maloney and the owner would prove me wrong. That they’d surprise me by doing certain things. When we got into July and word was going about that this player might be available and it seemed we were waiting for players to become out of contract, and that we could bring some clever and experienced signings in. I was thinking Sarcavic, Sharp, players of that ilk. But no. It never happened.
I’d really expected Maloney to make a mockery of me not renewing for the first time in 38 years. I thought I’d be crawling back at Christmas on a half season ticket. But no.I’d said to my dad that he and my lads renewing wasn’t a good idea. My eldest is already regretting it, sating he’s missing the next couple of games.
The whole thing is an utter shitshow. How long will they let it run for?