The reason I noticed it was because we were in the dear seats last week and my missus won the guess the gate competition. I felt a massive sense of faux deja vu :)
Yes – during a game I will scream and shout, but when I put my rational head on referees are not biassed. Incompetent maybe. Miss things certainly. But actually biassed to one team or another – I don’t think so.
We have a professional set-up and more skilful players than other teams, who have the nous at times to draw fouls and make the most of it. Refs aren’t always conned as easily. We also are usually on the front foot this season, attacking more as we are the superior team. It’s defending teams who foul, not (in general) attacking dominant teams, so we get fouled more, or at least seem to be.
As I always said about players too, there’s a reason they play for Wigan and not Barcelona. So similarly there’s a reason our referees this season are refereeing League One and not in the Euros.
Without referees at all levels the game would not exist. They do a difficult job for virtually no praise but constant criticism. Tell them they haven’t done a good job, may disappoint them, but they’ll try to improve. Tell them they are a cheat, and they will get very angry.
And no, I am not, and have never been, a referee.
I wouldn’t disagree with any of this. I 100% agree that refs aren’t biased but they are prone to being intimidated and influenced. Whether that comes under the umbrella of incompetence is down to interpretation. Also, the amount of times when a ref makes a wrong decision then realises sometime after the incident and goes on to balance things up by giving something soft to the other side is uncanny. You just know if ‘they’ve’ had a borderline red card, ‘you’re’ gonna get one or something equivalent later in the game. I don’t like that and it happens a lot.
I had a look at his Wikipedia page on deadline day and it said that he had rejoined Wigan Athletic on loan from Sunderland. Barely had my fist come back down after punching the air, the refreshed page said he’d joined Huesca. About an hour later it was Barcelona and then some time after that Blackburn. Could’ve been the man himself having a laugh with that :)[/quote]
You must be the only person in the World who gets news about transfers from Wikipedia![/quote]
For the record, there are few duller subjects out there than football players transfer news and gossip and it’s something I take no interest in whatsoever. Life is far too short to be interested in football transfers.
I had a look at his Wikipedia page on deadline day and it said that he had rejoined Wigan Athletic on loan from Sunderland. Barely had my fist come back down after punching the air, the refreshed page said he’d joined Huesca. About an hour later it was Barcelona and then some time after that Blackburn. Could’ve been the man himself having a laugh with that :)
You do know we’re talking about Jordy Hiwula, don’t you?
No, obviously not! If the OP had keyed ‘Jordy’ instead of ‘Jordi’ and not had a nightmare with his Caps Lock then I might’ve even read what he posted rather than just assume it was demi-God and legend Jordi Gomez he was having a pop at Anyway, I’ll use any excuse to watch one of my favourite Latics goals ;)
Everyone knows the majority of Latics fans have always loved a player like Perkins, who does what a Perkins does, some of us prefer what I’d call better footballers, someone who can pass, move, score a goal a bit like a Cisco, that majority who like a Perkins seem to find a playmaker, a thinker say, a bit lazy.
Unfortunately the division we are in demands a Perkins type player and he does his job well, if all you want is a breaker up of play and someone who gets his foot in. MOM is a way off view of the match imo.
I had neutrals with me on Saturday (Palace supporters) they thought Swindon were the better footballing side when they had the ball and we lacked belief, I thought we set out thinking we’d piss the game as is what happens in these types of fixtures and it doesn’t always work like that. They also said the No9 has to toughen up and were surprised when I told them his goals tally, last season and his cost.
One last thing, we didn’t pressure anything like enough when their keeper was up to his tricks. We’ve all seen what teams do to us when we maul about with it. Convinced we’d have got a goal sooner if we’d pushed up and defended from the front when this was occurring. How could the manager not see that?
I think the fact that some of the more exciting players underperformed made Perkins’ boiled beef and carrots performance stand out because if he hadn’t put in what he did, Swindon may even have nicked the game. I’d rather not Perkins stand out as much, as he did on Saturday, because it’s the sign of a workmanlike performance from the team. As it was.
Wildschut, Grigg and Jacobs were disappointing on Saturday. I still like Wildschut’s approach even though it went wrong for him more often than not in this game and I’m pretty sure Grigg’s a far better player than he showed himself to be on Saturday, as is Jacobs.
Anyway, we won 1-0 and that’s all that matters really.
30 September 2015 at 1:01 pm
in reply to: 7991#145016
The defending was poor for both goals, granted. The manager’s tactics simply seem to be keep the ball at all costs, even if it means slowing moves down and pissing three quarters of the crowd off. There were a couple of times when they were farting around with it at the back when it simply needed hoofing.
Having said that, it’s a brand new team, we’re ninth in the table just seven points from the leaders. What’s that corny old saying? Oh yeah, the impossible we do at once, miracles take a little longer. I think some people may have set their sights a little high for this season.
30 September 2015 at 3:32 am
in reply to: 7991#145009
A great attendance really but such a shame that we were treated to such garbage. A negative set up with snails pace build ups, passing sideways, backways and to Milwall players. Yawn a minute stuff. Malky, Uwe and Coyle were booed off for better performances and approaches to games than this. Points thrown away in the name of dreadfully football. If Gary wants to play this yawn a minute rubbish 7991 will seem very good indeed.
Garbage? Harsh. The problem we have is a lack of real quality. Or confidence, maybe. Almost all of the players need more than one touch and the first touch is usually backwards or sideways which takes the momentum out of a move. That, along with a dearth of forward players making runs and space, is a bit of a problem right now.
Jacobs and Grigg look like they have some quality and their first touches show that with things seeming to happen once they get the ball.
I think the players look hungry and they do bust a gut and I think they can only get better.
Not sure how I feel about a statue….putting aside the success we’ve been fortunate enough to witness over the last 20 years, Dave Whelan’s legacy to both Wigan Athletic and Wigan RLFC is the fact that we are both still in existence and on a much better footing than would have been the case without his intervention. That and the fact that both clubs play in a stadium which was built through his ambition and finance and the contributions he had made to both clubs should be enough for us all to remember and recognise the importance of the man to professional sport in our town.
Not sure a statue is necessary but I can completely understand why it is being built.
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I think some sort of tribute would be fitting, a plaque, the permanent naming of a stand maybe but a statue?! I think it would make us look a bit silly.
I can’t believe Fortune was taken off ahead of Clarke. Against Watford Clarke was stealthily rubbish. Today he stuck out like a sore thumb.
Why take Pennant off every game on 60 minutes? Is it in his deal or something?
Another moan; I thought Bong had a great game today but wtf was he doing with that free kick late on? Fookin Messi wouldn’t have got it up and down from there. No wonder Maguire ran back shaking his head. It needed him to blast it and put the ball and a couple of their players in the net.