I’m just a harmonious type of guy Mr C.

In fact, I’d like to teach the world to sing…[/quote]

I know people who would Beg Steal of Borrow to have a talent like that Mr Standish.[/quote]
I know many who are still looking for that talent…seeking in fact.[/quote]

I took Mrs Micky to a local talent show in Sams Bar last year….she paid the guy 50 quid entrance, agreed to receive 10 singing lessons on-line and drive to Scarborough for the next heat……..I said you bloody idiot. She cried and said well you won’t find another fool like me………

I’m just a harmonious type of guy Mr C.

In fact, I’d like to teach the world to sing…[/quote]

I know people who would Beg Steal of Borrow to have a talent like that Mr Standish.

If only I had a pound for the amount of times, today, I heard….

“better to have gone out last night than to have been totally humiliated by the Germans”.

However, like someone here may have already mentioned – quite frankly I really wasn’t that @rsed about it all after the shambles of the time wasting appointing the new manager; what I can see though are the building blocks for the future. Roy has blooded some youth and there are, in my opinion, some fine young players still waiting for their breakthrough into the senior team. Roy has a couple of years to learn from the lessons of this competition and adapt accordingly.

I suppose what I am saying is that I am quietly excited about a young, enthusiastic, patriotic team in the future.

Tony Kelly for one[/quote]

I knew you would be first……. ;)

In my heart I would like to nominate my first, and all time favourite, Sir Gordon Milne (on a technicality that he stopped playing…became manager….started playing again……hey I loved the guy).

Anyone else, anybody?

N’Zogbia. Team Player.

Not really phrases you normally see very close to one another. ;)[/quote]

Enough of a team player to be recognised by his team mates and be awarded PLAYERS’ PLAYER OF YEAR (and Supporters Player of Year) for 2009-10. B)

Moses, (understandably) still has scope for development where his decision-making (and finishing) is concerned

e.g. West Brom (H), Bolton (A)…Rodallega nearly throttled him (refusal to pass to better-positioned team-mates) !!

Granted, getting Nzogbia back would be a tall order (maybe non-starter), but if it did happen (and Moses went), I wouldn’t be too disappointed.

To witness again the wonders of NZogbia e.g. Arsenal (3-2), WHU (3-2),
and Stoke (1-0, assist) …great moments !

Topic certainly stimulated some debate …[/quote]

To be fair, JPC, you make a good point. Comment has been passed on wage demands, however, it is on record that money is available for the right player (talk has been of increasing Moses’ wages for example).

Let’s look at the reasons people (agents) are talking about (ok only on the internet). Money…….alright it’s not reasons but reason. Should Victor move to Chelsea for a reasonable amount (because Tony says so) then why could Charles not come back to us for an increased salary? After all we have (I suppose) all agreed that it is the greed league and that they are all in it for the money only…….if his career has plummeted where he is then he can rebuild here again and we could sell at a profit again…….proper business sense and, I for one, would like to see.

Here is a quick quiz question…………

Apart from our ‘Arry (Arjan de Zeeuw) how many players have gone and returned to our hallowed land?

Normally sensible and witty but not this time ! Lost the plot springs to mind or booze ! :huh:[/quote]

Thanks Phil….

the sensible and witty reference (normally) recommendation has been noted.

Losing the plot?…..now there, is a concept only discussed earlier – whatever!

Booze?……..you could affix this dysfunction to every thread here – whoever writes it or at whatever time of day. You should know that.

Sensible or witty?………as a non drinker – I take exception to that. I am neither.

Phil…..you remain a top chap here.

Seeing as the Italian defenders will be trying every trick in the book to wind Rooney up at the other end of the pitch , my request to Terry and Lescott would be – go for it boys.

And it’s not “what the media seems to think” , it’s what the media knows – because it happens in most football , rugby and even cricket matches.

indeed, and they even have a term for it……….Sledging.

A quick youtube search will pull up some classics.

Jason…..it goes back to the inauguration of the game itself:

Wilfred (“Wilf”) James Mannion (16 May 1918 – 14 April 2000) was an English professional footballer who played as an inside forward, making over 350 senior appearances for Middlesbrough. He also played international football for England. With his blond hair, he was nickamed “The Golden Boy” (taken from Wiki)….wrote in the Sunday People in 1954:

” I would be a wealthy man today if I had listened to even two or three of the black-market propositions put to me during my eighteen years as a player. One offer alone – from a famous first division club – would have put me in clover. It was made to me, unknown to anyone connected with my own club at the time, when I had refused to re-sign for Middlesbrough. And it took my breath away.

Besides paying my club what would have been a record transfer fee – some £25,000 – these money-is-no-object directors were prepared to hand me £3000 in ready cash the moment I signed. On top of that I was to get top wages, then £12 a week, as a player; plus a “job” – I put it that way because it was a job in name only as a salesman of something or other – which would have brought me another cool £25 a week. And, just as an incidental, I was to be given £25, to be slipped to me on the railway station, merely for making the trip to talk the offer over.”

I am amazed that some people think it is a scourge of the current game (ie since $ky) but as we see,and history will show that, it happened decades before this quote.

There has been a ‘twitcher Harry’ in every decade.

As for Mr Standish’ question to discuss – elementary – it is the “society without secrets” who decide these things in the higher echelons…………………and there is no changing their mindset.

Elaborate.