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‘Good comeback’ is the kindest description of the game.
Midfield seemed unable to find our own players – they were nearly as bad as Doncaster. Balls were kicked upfield towards Holt. He needs much better service than that, and better support too.
And the defence looked far from secure – Doncaster could easily have scored more.
Wigan should have started with two forwards – Doncaster are hardly Manchester United. Fortune (for Watson) came on at half time, and later Beausejour (for McClean) – Coyle is willing to make substitutions. Wigan then looked much more likely to score.
I don’t see why we can’t win by playing good football in the Championship. But we didn’t play good football last night.
Nothing in the Independent apart from the score and scorers, not even the attendance.
But a page each for Spurs, Arsenal/Fenerbahce, Chelsea/Villa and Manchester City.
I largely agree. Coyle wants to change the mindset of the Wigan players as perpetual underdogs. Then why on earth doesn’t he send out a team with two forwards? We’re not playing Manchester United every week.
We’ve got plenty of midfielders – perhaps twelve is too many. And we’re apparently looking at Nick Powell too. Maloney isn’t a winger – we’ve got three of those – and it’s a waste to play him on the right. He worked well with Beausejour later on the left.
I suggest;
Two holding midfield players; from Watson, McArthur and McCarthy
One creative midfield player; from McCarthy, Maloney and Gomez
One winger; from Beausejour, McManaman and McClean
Two forwards; Holt and Fortune
We still have Espinoza, McCann, Fyvie and Redmond in reserve for midfield. I’m not sure where Powell would fit in.
We’ve also got four goalkeepers. But we seem to have run out of defenders already this season – there weren’t any on the bench last night.
I expected midfield to be our great strength this season. Coyle has even added McCann and McClean to the squad. We’ve seen everybody now except Fyvie.
What has happened to them? They play like total strangers – and they appear colour-blind too. Are they following a plan of some kind?
There already appears to be a willingness just to kick the ball in the general direction of Holt. So far, it hasn’t been very productive. Holt’s going to need much better support if it is going to succeed.
So far, we’ve played two promoted teams and the survivors Barnsley. I would have said that was a gentle introduction. Greater challenges are still to come.
Just 30 Celtic fans have made the 3,100 mile trip to Kazakhstan for Tuesday afternoon’s Champions League qualifier at Shakhter Karagandy – who have slaughtered a sheep at their stadium for good luck.
Celtic kicked off at 4:00pm – and are losing 1-0 just now. The loser will go into the Europa League draw.
More Champions League matches tonight and tomorrow; Europa League matches on Thursday.
Coyle has little choice in defence tonight and we can expect the same back four.
Carson
Boyce Bartlett Perch Crainey
I think we may see a change in midfield. McCarthy, McArthur, Maloney and Beausejour all made international appearances last week, so Coyle may rest one or two. (Perhaps it would have been better if he had done this at Bournemouth – as I expected.)
It’s a home game, so he could put more emphasis on attack. Let’s go for;
Watson McCarthy Gomez
Fortune Holt McClean
“Wigan Athletic manager Owen Coyle rounded on referee Graham Scott for sending off winger Callum McManaman. He said: “We all saw what happened but I was one yard form the incident and Callum clearly won the ball. I will certainly be appealing. I think [the referee] got it wrong.”
Thank goodness wiser counsel has prevailed. Wigan are not going to appeal against the decision. McManaman will now serve a three match suspension, and will miss home matches against Doncaster, Middlesbrough and Nottingham Forest. (Edited – thank you, Garswood)
I wouldn’t say that he lost us three points on Saturday; Wigan weren’t playing well as a team. But we will be without him for three games. It obviously doesn’t help the team or his development.
salford_latic44 wrote:
I am not quite sure jumping at an opponent is a foul but I will give you the benefit of the doubt with your wording.
As to your carelessly, recklessly or excessive force criteria I don’t think it was any of those.
It was a brilliant perfectly timed one footed tackle! nothing dangerous about it and I would be devastated if our players were not committed enough to try and win the ball back in such a manner!
So, Salford, we’re making progress! You seem to have at last come round to the view that it was a jump – and a foul – rather than a brilliant perfectly timed tackle. Now we can discuss whether it deserved a red card.
I’m not the only one to refer to the rules – referees do it all the time. If you look back, you’ll see I did post the criteria for referees earlier. For your benefit, here they are again.
Jumping at an opponent is a foul!If a player jumps at an opponent, the referee must consider how it was done. Whether the player gets the ball is not a consideration. If it was done;
carelessly, then a free kick shall be awarded and no further sanction is required
recklessly, then the player shall be cautioned
with excessive force, then the player shall be sent off.The referee had to choose between careless, reckless and with excessive force. Yesterday, he chose with excessive force. I don’t see any grounds for appeal.
If the referee thought McManaman was reckless, he would have booked him. But he thought that McManaman used excessive force, and sent him off.
I don’t think we can complain. It appears that McManaman made a rash tackle after losing his temper. Didn’t he learn anything from last season’s incident?
Salford, if you – and Coyle – don’t know the rules of football, then you cannot expect to understand the referee’s decision.
McManaman jumped at his opponent – that’s a foul. You say he took the ball cleanly, but that’s irrelevant. I can’t put it any more clearly.
It’s up to the referee to decide how severe the punishment should be. Many referees would have agreed with the decision to send him off.
By arguing about the referee’s decision, you’re just encouraging McManaman to do it again. Can’t you see that if he carries on like this, then he’s going to land in very hot water? He isn’t a marked man, but he is going to be penalised for tackles like this.
And if Coyle is foolish enough to appeal, he may well get McManaman a longer suspension. Is that really what you want?
Instead of criticising the referee, it would be far more sensible if Coyle told McManaman the truth; if he carries on like this, he is going to get into hot water.
It’s not my wording – it’s from FIFA Rule 12 Fouls and Misconduct. And so are the criteria.
McManaman landed with both feet in front of him – like an Olympic long jumper. He caught the ball with his right foot and Pittman with his left foot.
He jumped at his opponent! It’s irrelevant whether the tackle was perfectly timed or not.
And Coyle was hardly an impartial observer. He should support his squad, but this makes him look ridiculous. Perhaps he will look at it again, but dispassionately this time.
There’s very little more to say.
He jumped in with BOTH feet off the ground, which in today’s money is deemed reckless and deserving of a red card, regardless of whether he played the ball or not.How does one “jump in” with one foot on the ground? [/quote]
Both feet are clearly OFF the ground. There’s no doubt – it’s a jump!
