cup winners

You make a good argument Cup Winners and I can see that side of it too but I still see nothing wrong with what he’s written as he makes valid points too – all of them.
In every takeover there are going to be arguments for both sides & he is just putting forward one of them, & as i said he’s not said anything that plenty of other Latics mons & monesses have already said.

I think what seems to be riling people is that he’s mentioned our crowds. My opinion of that is so what? Its a fact. They are what they are & plenty of Latics people complain about them. I think its also a fact that if crowds stay around that level (and with the relatively low prices that Latics will charge to get in compared with other Championship clubs) then our budget will be low compared to others in the division so it will be difficult (but not impossible) to compete at that level & you (Cup Winners) say so yourself “Without investment we would float around Div1 for the foreseeable future so for me im all up for it”.
PNE & Millwall will also find it difficult (some seasons more so than others). Bournemouth would not have got out (or even into) the Championship without spending the money of their Russian billionaire

For me all this BBC guy is saying is that Latics would struggle in the Championship without outside investment so in that sense its welcome but that there is a cautionary note as we don’t know a great deal about them or what their aims are. Oh & we only get 10k crowds!! ;)[/quote]

Name me any club that’s that’s also taken the double drop and kept their fan base ? (all bar Leeds they have 100k a week and take 50k away).

The vast majority of fans are finicky and can’t help himself but to mention 10k crowds while were in Div 1 that is. I had to rub my eyes at home against City and when I watched a Cardiff game the other week but this happens everywhere , sorry except for Leeds.

That 10k figure will rise next season to 15k+ on many occasions (and 75k when Leeds come) and again if we happen to get back into the Prem.
The fact is, fans don’t win you trophies, never have, never will, well run clubs with hard working players and backroom staff do.
I just hope the Hong Kong take over people don’t start handing out those Everton type questionnaires because I will have to just draw a horse taking a slash when asked, “What do you think of the beverages ?”.

Who’s this bell end ?? “Simon the testicle stone”

BBC Sport’s Simon Stone

Interesting times ahead for Wigan.

A provincial club, driven to heights it could never have imagined by local businessman Dave Whelan, is now being transferred into the hands of owners from Hong Kong few fans will have a clue about.

The worry will be that many similar deals – Blackburn Rovers being a prime example – have gone disastrously wrong.

However, with average gates hovering around 10,000, the brutal truth is Wigan cannot hope to compete in the Championship, let alone get back to the top flight, without some kind of outside investment.

The big question surrounds the International Entertainment Corporation. Namely, what’s in it for them?

We should all pay a visit to the local bookmakers to collect a few slips to use as confetti and give Barton who will no doubt be there the same warm welcome Keith Gillespie got when warming up at he DW

The events involving his own club on 15/4/1989 proved how wrong he was.

I’d never fight with opposition fans over football. Why? Because we support different teams? And? I’m beyond all that crap.

Only fans I’ve ever had disagreements with or been pissed off with at a game, are Latics fans.[/quote]
A fan who only argues with his own is probably worse, take Millwall and West Ham. Thank fcuk you don’t sit near me

You would have had to be very lucky online. I a PC on bband not a phone and 150mb line and was faced with timeout while the tickets were in the basket. I eventually got in only to be faced with timed out while assigning the tickets.
I never got to the pay here page, it just timed out again then said *SOLD OUT*

It’s the usual Latics senario,

Queue up or fook off !

And there usual response “It weren’t us it was a ticketmaster error” and as for telephone ? , errr no thanks not after the Utd fiasco and £20 landline bill

Logged in online tickets after 9 Fleetwood not been sold then when they appear at 9:20 website error can’t complete sale

9:37 *SOLD OUT ONLINE*

Looking at Shrewsbury’s performance in the EFL trophy final I think it’s them that should be worried. With an in form Charlton and Peterborough to play at home I think they will have their work cut out. Plus an away fixture on this Thursday, 12th April at Bradford who will be stinging from a heavy loss at Blackpool.

Beat Rochdale we go 5 clear of them which means Shrewsbury have to win all their remaining 6 games and we lose a minimum of 2 games plus weigh in our far superior goal difference. If they so much as draw that makes their task even harder never mind if they lose.

For me, Tuesday will be the turning point for our season. If we lose it will send the incentive over to Shrewsbury. The Tic’s players will know this, for me I think if, we win Tuesday then barring a sudden collapse of any form were up. The only way we won’t is if Shrewsbury suddenly going on a six game unbeaten run against tough opposition and suspensions and we fall to bits with the winning post in sight.

Oh and by the way, when do Fleetwood tickets go on sale and how many will we be given ?

How can the bench be light with 3 subs of Grigg who scored. Roberts who crossed and Coco who everyone seems to think should have started and the Scots lad you referred to (Walker)was on the bench too?[/quote]

No variation thats the bench problem and I seem to remember Walker was never used so I could sit there if needed be. In times gone by I always seem to remember we would have a game turner sat on the bench whether it be Moses, Vilchut someone who could come on with 1-15 to go and inject some pace into the game, light the touch paper.
Granted as I point out, Roberts set Grigg’s goal up but had he come on 15 minutes earlier would the outcome been any different ?, I would like to think it would due to his impact on the game.
At 1-0 down fair play, Grigg on nick a goal, grab a point I can see the point to that but we were 2-0 down ! Vaughan should have never left the field. For me Cook has to shoulder a fair chunk of the blame purely on the basis of his team selection (Massey been one Jacobs not far behind) and the timing the subs. He needs to risk take at the right times and get someone with some fookin pace for Christ sake !!