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Not a bad earner that, training the kids while still drawing a hefty wedge
Why is it an earner?
He’s either fulfilling part of the coaching role that come with his player/coach contract, or he’s doing it free of charge off his own back.[/quote]
Key word “part” I would say he’s a player over coach so my question was , is he playing or what ?Caldwell signed a one year contract with Wigan in July 2014. As part of the new agreement he was also given some coaching responsibilities.
July 2015 get rid time,[/quote]
To be honest, I’d be surprised if you knew the finer details of the precise arrangement between the club and Caldwell. After all, you seem to know nothing about anything else.[/quote]
…and how do you come to that conclusion?
There is no need to know “the finer details of the precise arrangement between the club and Caldwell” as the club, in their statement stated:
“Wigan Athletic are delighted to confirm that club captain Gary Caldwell has signed a new one year deal to remain at the DW Stadium, which will see him combine playing duties with a coaching role at the Academy”.
so – “is he still playing or what ?”
Hardly a bloody difficult question to address – and I’m sure that some would have been more interested in the answer rather than self promotion,
Further, I agree that if he is only fulfilling part of his contract (for whatever reason) and still being paid his full salary, then it is indeed “a nice little earner” for him.
[/quote]Oh dear, don’t tell me you’ve reverted to idiot mode over Christmas, too! And you were doing so well lately! ;)
The ‘if’ in you post is key. Nobody here knows whether his contract has been revised to include coaching duties or not. If it hasn’t, then he is actually performing extra duties for no extra pay. The fact that he is injured, out of form, or out of favour does not constitute only fulfilling part of his contract. He is a member of the first team squad, whether he can/is picked to play or not. I don’t think Jonathan Jackson has told Mackay that Caldwell can’t train on Thusday afternoons because he’s playing 5-a-side with the under 18s
If Steven Gerrard is such a greedy get, why did he choose to stay at Liverpool instead of going to Chelsea for the big bucks?
Because he stayed at Liverpool for big bucks. :whistle:[/quote]
Smaller bucks, actually
I don’t to be honest, probably because you’re a bit like our maude, always right and need to have the last word.
But the place would be a lot dullerA. Before you know it will be May
B. I hope it doesn’t and we’re not getting in a load of cheap crap to replace the outgoing
C. I didn’t say he had been (again like our maude) but anyone who’s being signed is surely being signed to help keep us up not take us down, unless you know different?Oh bless, you don’t know much, do you? It takes so much out of my day trying to educate you.
In answer to C) no, not necessarily. He might well have been bought as one for the future and at £150k that’s a decent gamble. I don’t know whether he’d be ready or good enough for the first team or not becasue I dont know enough about him – and neither do you.
Translate Uber Fan.?Griff have you had a pint and a trip to muffin man? you seem to have calmed down a bit and resorted to name calling again. Good to have you back, knew you wouldn’t last
Fuck off, knobhead ;)
Have I calmed down? Not sure I ever wasn’t calm. I see you’re still talking shite though.
Not a bad earner that, training the kids while still drawing a hefty wedge
Why is it an earner?
He’s either fulfilling part of the coaching role that come with his player/coach contract, or he’s doing it free of charge off his own back.[/quote]
Key word “part” I would say he’s a player over coach so my question was , is he playing or what ?Caldwell signed a one year contract with Wigan in July 2014. As part of the new agreement he was also given some coaching responsibilities.
July 2015 get rid time,[/quote]
To be honest, I’d be surprised if you knew the finer details of the precise arrangement between the club and Caldwell. After all, you seem to know nothing about anything else.
I’m more concerned we’re in the 150k bracket for players from jockland to try and keep us up, probably missed on you, as you go on the defensive.Probably emailed the club already to tell them what good prospects this lot are and well done for shipping off the useless Riera to a big Spanish club who don’t have a clue like we do.
Why I’m taking any notice of you, I don’t know, but…
a) It’s only the 6th January
b) It hasn’t happened yet
c) Who says the lads been told he’s been brought in to save the season?
And has there been national outrage similar to how we used to be treated with pics of an empty stand. Tagged with “The FA Cup has lost it’s magic”?No? This was my point. Not to slag off other teams crowds.
Everything seems to go whooooooosh these days on here.
Noted Mutty turns up at the mention of a crowd….he isn’t obsessed though.
I got your point, perfectly well. Just didn’t think it was a very good one.
National outrage? You’re a bit of a drama queen on the quiet, aren’t you?
As does scoring a ponful of goals, earning over 100 England caps (many as captain)and single-handedly winning FA Cup and Champions League finals.
It’s pretty clear that this is full of the bitter, jealous bile that used blight David Beckham. I don’t particularly like the fella either but to dismiss his entire career because he’s (allegedly) a greedy bastard is quite pathetic.
That’s not aimed at you by the way, as I know you were only having a pop at his charitable work.
You sound very much like a Liverpool fan there Griff. I thought you were a Manc? ;)[/quote]
:) Believe it or not, I nearly added “I’m going to stop now before somebody comes on and accuses me of being a Liveroool fan” but I wasn’t expecting it to be you!
Respect to anyone that gives to charity or anyone worse off but usually large donations are made by people that have it to spare and are rarely truly altruistic acts. Gerrard giving away six figure sums is a bit like me donating a tenner to Comic Relief. That’s not having a pop at Gerrard per se, that’s just the way it is.
Gerrad is allegedly on £150 per week. So for your tenner to match his £100k donation means you must be on £15 per week. I suspect you’re not. ;)
I get your point, but it isn’t actually the same. And even if he isn’t on megabucks, he still didn’t have to do it.[/quote]
So after tax, Gerrard draws £75k PER WEEK. That’s around £320k PER MONTH. And he’s been on this kind of money for 10 years or so? Fair play to him for donating as he does but it is only a minute part of his worth. He doesn’t miss the money one bit and it’s a massive PR boost to boot.
Apologies for being cynical, and I may be very wide of the mark in Gerrard’s particular case, but charitable donations, appearances and endorsements do wonders for careers and upward mobility.[/quote]
As does scoring a ponful of goals, earning over 100 England caps (many as captain)and single-handedly winning FA Cup and Champions League finals.
It’s pretty clear that thread is full of the bitter, jealous bile that used to blight David Beckham. I don’t particularly like the fella (Gerrard) either but to dismiss his entire career because he’s (allegedly) a greedy bastard is quite pathetic.
That’s not aimed at you by the way, as I know you were only having a pop at his charitable work.
Respect to anyone that gives to charity or anyone worse off but usually large donations are made by people that have it to spare and are rarely truly altruistic acts. Gerrard giving away six figure sums is a bit like me donating a tenner to Comic Relief. That’s not having a pop at Gerrard per se, that’s just the way it is.
Gerrad is allegedly on £150 per week. So for your tenner to match his £100k donation means you must be on £15 per week. I suspect you’re not. ;)
I get your point, but it isn’t actually the same. And even if he isn’t on megabucks, he still didn’t have to do it.[/quote]
” And even if he isn’t on megabucks ” ? Around £7.8m a year plus endorsements!! If that ain’t megabucks then I don’t know what is! :silly:[/quote]
Would it have been easier for you to understand if I’d said “if he wasn’t on megabucks”? But, either way, I think the point I was trying to make was fairly obvious.
Respect to anyone that gives to charity or anyone worse off but usually large donations are made by people that have it to spare and are rarely truly altruistic acts. Gerrard giving away six figure sums is a bit like me donating a tenner to Comic Relief. That’s not having a pop at Gerrard per se, that’s just the way it is.Gerrad is allegedly on £150 per week. So for your tenner to match his £100k donation means you must be on £15 per week. I suspect you’re not. ;)
I get your point, but it isn’t actually the same. And even if he isn’t on megabucks, he still didn’t have to do it.
Because he’s indicative of how wasting money was not restricted to Bruce. Personally, I think Rosler spending £6m on two strikers he never picked was more wasteful. And I’d rather keep 20 players on Steve Bruce wages than a squad of 30 on Rösler wages.
OK, fair enough. Bramble was a bad example becasue I wasn’t trying to suggest that Bruce had wasted money, just that he had more of it to spend and therefore had the opportunity to bring in better quality players.
Bramble always sticks in my mind though, because to me, it’s an indication of how mental football had become when Wigan Athletic were spending £40k per week on a player like that.[/quote]
And seemingly Bramble put a large portion of that £40k aside to help him retire at the age of 31!!!
Unless there is another reason he hasn’t played since being released from Sunderland 2 years ago.[/quote]I don’t think his penchant for groping girls in taxis has helped his career
Because he’s indicative of how wasting money was not restricted to Bruce. Personally, I think Rosler spending £6m on two strikers he never picked was more wasteful. And I’d rather keep 20 players on Steve Bruce wages than a squad of 30 on Rösler wages.OK, fair enough. Bramble was a bad example becasue I wasn’t trying to suggest that Bruce had wasted money, just that he had more of it to spend and therefore had the opportunity to bring in better quality players.
Bramble always sticks in my mind though, because to me, it’s an indication of how mental football had become when Wigan Athletic were spending £40k per week on a player like that.
