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That said, I do have a thread of sympathy for him; even though he has had considerably better lifestyle than many of us,
I don’t. He had the money, the support, the lifestyle,the facilities, the right people, the adulation, the medical advice and help (if it was ever needed)…everything more than the humble man on the street who finds/found himself in that situation.
He began to believe his own hype, became arrogant, thought he was untouchable and p!ssed it all away without a care in the world for anyone else. Also, as you said, his public stabbing of Dave Whelan to get back into the limelight was disgusting. The media is full of car-crash (s’cuse the pun) ex-celebrities/players and I think this stage managed media interview showing him confessing to wanting to commit suicide smacks of the cheap tricks Gary Glitter used to get out of his disgraceful wrongdoings.
Recent events at the DW have finally explained the real reason behind our lacklustre displays this season.
What?? And exactly what evidence are you basing this on? The fact that we managed to get a clean sheet draw away from home against a top 4 team in our first game without our “rotten core”. As there is no more evidence than that at the moment. Shame on you for such blinkered rantings.
Why is it that so many on here can’t see past the players for why we’re in so much trouble?
Trent – so unless they stay at Wigan putting in a shift they can’t win right? If she doesn’t drown she’s a witch, if she does drown at least we know she wasn’t.
And JR – really? Not like you that post. Couldn’t it be possible that the reason Maloney played so well for Scotland was because he was motivated to do so through strong management and good tactics?[/quote]
I think that the ‘evidence’ is there for all to see. The fact that we did manage to get that draw despite not having the ‘star’ players and using what he had at the time, to me, shows that those who have departed wanted no more of this club. OK that’s just my opinion and it’s how i saw the game, however, others have also said the same. I would also like to add that, and some may not agree, the backroom staff have to hold their hands up as well as there has been no evidence, again to me, of them being eager on the touchline to offer advice. Indeed the only time I saw Barrow active was when there was an opportunity of a punch-up.
Further I agree with Trent on how he sees those players as well and as JR has already spotted Maloney did not do himself any favours by playing out of his skin for Scotland and then mooching around the pitch for us.
Finally, I’ll end by echoing The Egg’s sentiments in that I too want to see him have the time to put this right, and I firmly believe that he will.
That’s all in your opinion of course,It’s also an opinion I share as do many of my friends. I too share the sentiments of Owd Git and hope that their carers go downhill. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour.
The king is dead… long live the king.
I would like to ask a question.
Why is everyone who is anti-Malkay, anti-Mr Whelan and general down-in-the-dumps gloom merchants calling whats going on a Fire Sale?
It is nothing of the sort, indeed I consider it very good business for the club and the players.
Wigan Athletic can confirm that Northern Ireland international striker Billy Mckay has been transferred to the club from Scottish Premiership side Inverness Caledonian Thistle for an undisclosed fee.He earned his full first full international cap from Northern Ireland in a 0-0 draw against Malta in February 2013 and has so far earned eight caps.
Not wanting to put a damper on him before he arrives but.
Good grief…
McKay hasn’t become a bad manager or motivator overnight. If players don’t like him or don’t want to play for him or our club then the decisions that have been made are correct.
Lets face it, we are eight points from safety so the players that have been sold/moved on were obviously not up to the job.
I’m not going to start slagging them off and saying they are crap players, but you have to question their attitude and commitment to our club.
With the best will in the world a top class PL manager would struggle to get so many players who don’t want to play for you to perform. One bad egg is hard enough to manage, but when there are so many it’s impossible.
I reckon what has gone on this last week or so will benefit us on and off the pitch in the long run.
Fuck to the ‘believe’ shite of the past and just keep the faith. The good times will be back, it just may take longer than first thought.Spot on fella.
I’m not fussed who stays and goes as long as we are left with a semblance of a half decent side ready to scrap, but I find it funny how all those who are leaving or have gone are shite all of a sudden and won’t be missed! I could if needed get old posts up where some of you calling these lads were singing their praises and saying that we needed them! Capricious springs to mind!I’m sorry filmos but I don’t. Indeed you can drag up as many old posts as you like and they will all show how we loved them for their prowess on the field. However, and I think this is now coming to light, these players have “gone shite all of a sudden”; the distasteful behaviour of some showing no effort and little interest of our plight beggars belief.
It is well known that players have been wanting to go for some time (Maloney, Watson, Ramis et al) and have acted ungraciously considering the support and opportunity offered to them by our club over the years (Maloney’s flagging career and sticking with Watson through his injuries etc).
Me? I’m glad they’re gone – fantastic bit of business recently and we now have some new hungry players ready for the challenges ahead (and there are more to come ‘Sheyi Ojo’ perhaps).
Happy with that. I’d have had him in the summer.
Last night on the progress with unity podcast run by Vital Latics, they had a Huddersfield fan on previewing Saturdays game, he said that Le Fondre was in talks with them and hopefully the deal would be finalised so he could play against us on Saturday.[/quote]
Not quite what the Hudersfield Daily Examiner thinks –
substantial substance
I wouldn’t like to tackle that phrase with a lisp and about six pints in me ;)[/quote]
:lol:
As a teetotaler I’ve no problem with saying it, however, my good wife had to tell me what it meant. ;)
There is no substantial substance to this “rumour”, however, I heard a whisper that with Chris Eagles not agreeing a new deal with Blackpool and becoming a free agent again he is being touted as a replacement for Maloney.
I notice the papers are saying that he may be interested in a return to Bolton so he has a desire to remain in the North West, whether it would be a good signing or not is another matter. It may be all smoke and mirrors as well.
I thought the first half was poor apart from our usual 0-10 min flurry! Obviously got a bollocking at halftime and the changes made a massive difference and we could have nicked it towards the end! It was good to see some guille back in the team during that 2nd half but I am still concerned about our lack of strikers!
And we could and should have lost it at the end too. Woeful defending by Barnett who fortunately redeemed himself by managing to get back on the goal line for that headed clearance.
Overall, second half especially, we were much better than of late but are poor at the back and desperately short of a decent centre-half.[/quote]
I agree. Although getting three points would have helped our cause, the ‘fair play’ mode in me said a point was good enough after a hard worked second half and hopefully the team can now build on that and raise their confidence/game levels.
There were two goal line clearances and if the first had gone in then I shudder to think how we would have reacted. The heads would have been that low they’d have their noses in the grass.
James was also a lucky lad for not getting sent off for his first half injury time foul on’t Rovers Mon.
Looked a shocker on tv. I didnt think he touched him at the time.[/quote]
Looked a shocker at the time from where I was sat. Mind you, a lifetime of masturbation means my eyes aren’t what they used to be[/quote]
wanker[/quote]Well done, you – 6 letters!! See if you can get a 7 next[/quote]
I suppose he could have used Wankerchank – an 11 letterer (if letterer is a word), but that would have just been showing off. ;)
The article started off: Chris Griffin says…… ;)
Highly, highly unlikely! ;)[/quote]
but quite funny though (go on admit it – it was clever) ;)
There was more contact made in the two dugouts with Barrow getting stuck-in as usual. Quite entertaining really – best bit of passion of the half.
Well, Ramis is out for a month now so it looks like we’re stuck with Kiernan and may see a return for Barnett. Also, Maloney remains available for Sat so how about:Carson
Boyce Barnett Kiernan
Perch Maloney McCann Forshaw Taylor
Waghorn McLeanIt doesn’t look so bad on paper but as things stand is even weaker than at the start of the season
Looks reasonable that. However, I just have my doubts about Boyce running for a full game these days. His last few outings have seen him huffing and puffing at the 70 min mark and that is a dangerous period of the game to have a slow right back. Start him, yes, but he would have to come off sometime during the second half.