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Mackay did mention the lack of communication that contributed to conceding the first goal during his post match interview so you can bet they got a good bollocking over it.
The was some background to that game and why it turned out to be so nasty.
If anyone is interested:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Santiago_(1962_FIFA_World_Cup)I would never boo any of our players.He will have to do a lot better than he did when was here before though, because he wasn’t very good – whatever the reason.
That’s an understatement.
I’m quite happy to be proved wrong though.We have just had a Member of Parliament (who happened to be Labour ffs) taking the piss out of someone for flying the flag of their country from their own home.
It could only happen in England.
At least with the tories you know what you are getting, what the fuck is Labours excuse?
Well that’s not the full story though is it and the comments weren’t just about the flag was it?
Never let facts get in the way of a good (sic) story.
Anyway the MP in question has been forced to resign from her post over the issue so the Labour part wasn’t excusing it at all.[/quote]
Oh, so she resigned so everything is fine then,silly me.
Bytheway,Ed Miliband would make a cracking tory MP.[/quote]
She forgot she was a politician and said what she thought rather than engaging her brain before opening her mouth, in much the same way Whelan did.
So would Blair and Brown.
Very few Labour politicians in the traditional sense are left now, Dennis Skinner is one, and the biggest obstacle to Labour being return to power in the next election is Miliband himself.So this IS a football thread then is it? I shall bear that in mind for future references! I wouldn’t mind normally but other threads have been moved in the past despite having tenuous links but this thread is fuck all to do with football!Why don’t you start a poll on whether it should be moved or not.
I vote yes.
We have just had a Member of Parliament (who happened to be Labour ffs) taking the piss out of someone for flying the flag of their country from their own home.It could only happen in England.
At least with the tories you know what you are getting, what the fuck is Labours excuse?
Well that’s not the full story though is it and the comments weren’t just about the flag was it?
Never let facts get in the way of a good (sic) story.
Anyway the MP in question has been forced to resign from her post over the issue so the Labour part wasn’t excusing it at all.
Labour are more toty these days than Maggie Thatchers lot back in the 80s.
I don’t think it’s very PC to call Ms Nandy “toty” ;)[/quote]
Didn’t have Mrs Thatcher down as someone to appoint a female asian MP anyway, never mind anyone who could be construed as toty.[/quote]
Agreed. More interested in surrounding herself with paedophiles.[/quote]
Indeed Sammy, but it didn’t stop there. The real ‘crimes’ against children were exposed under Blair. Have a read of this little article:
Within this well written expose comes these two little phrases:
“Tony Blair: stifling investigations of paedophiles in his Labour government”
and
“Under Blair’s government paedophiles get off with a slap on the wrist and never seem to suffer the full weight of the law – no shock there then!”
It concludes with a list of disgraced people convicted for horrific offences – I noted the numerous Labour among them. It appears that Thatcher didn’t start the craze but was just a part of it – they were/are all in it together.
Finally, just finished watching that programme on Channel Four 7 called “It’ll be alright in the 70’s” – outrageous by todays standards, however, if Lord Ousley and his cohorts watched it then they would understand context in what has happened recently.[/quote]
And it didn’t stop at Blair either.
Just the tip of the iceberg, said the woman with a lettuce leaf sticking out of her knickers!
Labour are more toty these days than Maggie Thatchers lot back in the 80s.
I don’t think it’s very PC to call Ms Nandy “toty” ;)[/quote]
Didn’t have Mrs Thatcher down as someone to appoint a female asian MP anyway, never mind anyone who could be construed as toty.[/quote]
Agreed. More interested in surrounding herself with paedophiles.
So lets say the agent in question was not Jewish but Scottish, Scottish been the brunt of all “tight with cash” jokes since the dawn of time. Would the text have created the same amount of uproar if the text said “money slip through a Jocks hands” , ?? or is Jock now banned and Jockeys have to be called horsemen ??Just to confuse you some more, it would have been OK to say “money slip through a Scotsman’s hands” but you can’t refer to a Scotsman as a Jock…..!
The least offensive thing Whelan said was the Jewish reference to money, but as I’ve already mentioned you don’t have to try too hard to be labelled anti-Semitic these days.
I too have issues with positive discrimination but understand why it is applied in certain organisations. The Metropolitan Police for example.
You can go to Radio 5 Live website and listen to Gary Richardsons’ piece about us and his interview with Lord Oulson who is trying everything to find a way of persecuting DW. He even advocates that what is said in private can no longer be deemed that (if it affects the well-being of persons, youth, and/or match fixing). Complete and utter tripe and smacks of the thought police. I think that he and the Kick It Out brigade have backed themselves into a corner by holding onto the shirt tails of a feeding frenzy media, opportunistic hacks and people like Tan and Gold trying to bully their way onto the big scene.I agree that we, the club, should lie low for a while, however, Mr Whelan should be ready for a counter claim against these offensive and sickening people who have openly lambasted him in public.
This is what FA Chairman Greg Dyke said about the sexist e-mails Peter Scudamore sent:-
“In terms of FA disciplinary policy we, as the FA, could have considered taking action had Mr Scudamore’s statements been made in the public arena.
“However our policy has always been that we do not consider something stated in a private email communication to amount to professional misconduct.
“We do, however, consider the content of the emails to be totally inappropriate.”
I suspect that is what Whelan was referring to when he said he’d had assurances from the FA that no significant action would be taken against Mackay as a result of the text messages he’d sent.
So has a precedent been set and if so will that be changed now with respect to what Mackay has said? If Mackay is found guilty will that mean Scudamore is also guilty?
I am assuming text and email messages in this case are considered to be the same.
Murder, rape, drink driving , is not racist so its OK to carry on in the public eye as though nothing has happened. Look at the Plymouth keeper, kills 2 young boys drink driving then is made captain. I cant imagine how the parents feel. Send a text mentioning a woman’s top section and all hell breaks loss ,,fookin madness.By taking in a couple of pish arse text about some woman’s upper mounds the FA will open a nest of rats and if the Jew remark is racist can you please explain it to me.. Can you imagine the law suits and cases the FA will have to investigate every time some footballer shows them their phone with a complaint ?. They are not the Police ,.
I have a program that allows me to send text and change the number to the receiver so it looks like someone else. Wonder how the FA would deal with that ?
There has been some interesting and thought provoking debate on this forum from people who hold opposing views on this whole sorry affair.
Quite clearly you are not one of them.
This is clearly a case of positive discrimination rather than sexual discrimination.
However, in certain cases positive discrimination can redressed the imbalance caused by years, if not decades or centuries, of blatant discrimination based on sexual or ethnic orientation.
This is an example of one of those cases.
Or it could be a case of the leadership pandering to the feminist pressure groups around the country and doing what they ‘think’ will win them more votes.
This is an example of one of those cases[/quote]
A feminist pressure group formed as a result of such discrimination perhaps?
This is clearly a case of positive discrimination rather than sexual discrimination.
However, in certain cases positive discrimination can redressed the imbalance caused by years, if not decades or centuries, of blatant discrimination based on sexual or ethnic orientation.
This is an example of one of those cases.
