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Jonesey could fit the bill so long as he doesn’t do what Gary did and follow the Roberto model of playing football. If he did that then we would be in for borefest mark 7.
You might be.
Personally I’d love to go back to playing the way Roberto had us playing.
I agree Paul has been out of the game a good while but my post was in reaction to potentially having Gary back. Please God not that. Everything on the manager front just depends on a couple of things..What sort of wages they would get and the size of the war chest.Personally I’d like Gary back.
But I understand why many wouldn’t, and I’m not sure it would be a good idea considering he was sacked and there were rumours of disharmony in the squad.
I expect the wages will be low and I can’t see there being much if any war chest – which will put off most candidates.
I honestly can’t come up with a name that would apply for it and that would fill me with excitement if he got the job.
I don’t know about you but this Warriors/Latics bashing is getting a little bit hackneyed now!
If you’d been around Wigan in the 80s you’d know why it exists Phil.
Latics fans were openly laughed at.[/quote]
Johnny I am thoroughly aware of what went on, don’t forget our Jeff has been going on since 82 but it’s just going round in circles! Neither set of fans are going to back down![/quote]
I know Jeff has been a fan since the 80s, but I meant in the schools, with mates, even members of your family!Latics fans were there to be laughed at.
I don’t mind the sport of Rugby League (it’s some of the supporters I can’t abide) and played it for the school team on the back of playing Union at weekends. But I remember some of my Latics supporting mates being banished onto the school yard with a tennis ball during games lessons and told to go and play football with the rest of the puffs.
And I also remember the absolute torrent of abuse I only got from a packed Gray’s chippy for being overheard saying something about a Latics match to one of mates!
Caldwell?? Take the Cald out and replace it with a Je and we could be talking about something special.
Would doubt it very much that our greatest ever manager could return but there could be some role he could play in at least getting us to play the Wigan way.Is that the same Jewell who has been abject failure since he left Wigan?
No chance.
He’s as out of touch with football these days as your wardrobe is with fashion…. (I’m just guessing at that bit regarding your wardrobe)
Because the 10,000 who used to watch us 4 years ago haven’t gone watching Liverpool, Everton, Utd, City or any other NW side, so using them as a pull factor when comparing to clubs in dispersed locations is irrelevant.
They have but from the pubs. All gone back to boyhood clubs.[/quote]
Agree 100%A lot of those who turned up for the first season in the PL were United, Liverpool, and Everton fans, and many of them bought tickets for them and their kids.
I know dozens of ’em.
They’re now back to once-a-season trips to Anfield and watching the rest of the games on Arabic TV.
I don’t know about you but this Warriors/Latics bashing is getting a little bit hackneyed now!If you’d been around Wigan in the 80s you’d know why it exists Phil.
Latics fans were openly laughed at.
Well spotted.
Maybe so on this thread, but my conversation was with Warriors supporters who think the same.
It’s those sort of conversations that I’ve also had that caused me to post the original item on this thread.
I know that most reasonable people on both sides of the fence know and accept the truth, but I’m afraid there are still Warriors fans (plural, and not scarce) who firmly believe that DW sold Central Park from under them and pocketed the money.[/quote]There are also still Latics fans (plural, and fortunately more scarce) who firmly believe that DW has sold us down the river and pocketed all our PL money.
There are idiots on both sides who choose to believe false versions of both tales for whatever reason, and that will take generations to put right.
One thing I am sure about is, whatever your allegiance, whether it is Latics, the eggs, or sport in Wigan generally, sport in Wigan would be in a far worse state if Mr Whelan hadn’t have come along when he did.
We should be petitioning the government for a Knighthood for Dave Whelan for his services to sport in Wigan.[/quote]
I think he blew his chances of a knighthood with Chingaling-gate!Although the JJB was built before Whelan took control at Wigan RL, many of the Wigan RL supporters believe that when Whelan bought their club, he paid off their £4m debts with some of the money received from Tesco, and then kept the remaining £8m – which they claim went towards paying Whelan back for the money he’d invested in the building of the stadium.
Prime example here:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=5&id=20083&gallery=Central+Park&offset=60
Maybe I’m missing something but the only accusation from that link about DW pocketing the surplus cash comes from a user name Chris Southworth, who then uses the phrase “as a fellow Latics mon” to another poster.[/quote]
Well spotted.
Maybe so on this thread, but my conversation was with Warriors supporters who think the same.
Anyone with more than half a brain cell knows that the JJB was already being built (if not completed) when Whelan bough the RL club & had them as tennants rather than Orrell RU as was originally proposed.
The money from the sale of Central Park went into pying off their debtors who were considerable at the time to the extent that their future was looking precarious
That is fact & only needs a quick google search to see when the building began & when Whelan purchased the RL club to confirm thatOn the flip side, a friend of mine did a post grad course in Football Administration at Liverpool John Moore’s & (as it was around the same time) he did his thesis on the building of the JJB stadium – he was given access to all the info & met with the council & Whelan on numerous occasions.
Anyway I happened to be whinging one day about how Latics were limited to a 10k capacity at the new groung whilst the Warriors were allowed many more not long after it opened & said that seeing as how Latics gad part funded the cost of the stadium through selling Springfield Park it was unfair that we were being punished in terms of the lower capacity. Whilst taking the pish about the lower capacity (he’s a Bolton fan) he did say that no money from the sale of either stadium went towards the cost of building the new one. It all went into each club’s coffersLike someone else has said, it was Sport England, the football foundation, the council & Whelco who funded the building of the JJB not Latics & not Warriors either
Thank you Tyldesley
That’s the type of info I was looking for.
Although the JJB was built before Whelan took control at Wigan RL, many of the Wigan RL supporters believe that when Whelan bought their club, he paid off their £4m debts with some of the money received from Tesco, and then kept the remaining £8m – which they claim went towards paying Whelan back for the money he’d invested in the building of the stadium.
Prime example here:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=5&id=20083&gallery=Central+Park&offset=60
I always suspected the £8m was divided amongst the Wigan RL board – who then slipped away from the club quietly.
Does it really matter who paid what or who owns what as long as the future of the clubs in the long term is not hampered by either one being at the DW?. It works for most of the time and with better fixture planning should work all the time. Obviously the most important thing is the Latics to me and as long as we are not put in any difficulties by the other lot ill live with them being there. At the end of the day the town has a modern stadium which should be used by both in the very long term which goes towards securing the future for Wigan sport.It obviously matters to some of the Warriors supporters who are claiming they have rights because they part-funded the building of the stadium!
I was simply asking if anyone knew if there was any truth in this theory.
So here’s my question:
Did any money from the sale of Central Park go into Whelan’s coffers – either for the building of JJB Stadium or financing of Wigan Athletic.
I had one of the other parents at my son’s rugby club claiming that the sale of Central Park part-funded the JJB, and therefore Wigan RL were well within their rights to feel aggrieved when they are forced to move their games.
The other parent in question is a doctor (my son plays Rugby Union naturally…) and obviously a bright chap, and is father is a retired accountant, so I played it coy and said ‘I’m sure that’s not right’ just in case I was way off the mark.
But correct me if I’m wrong:
Whelan took control of Wigan RL after the JJB had been built, and surely, considering the RL club was in such a dire financial state when Whelan took over, the money from the sale of Central Park didn’t come as part and parcel of the deal to buy the club?
Surely that money had been swallowed up by debts and/or paid out to the previous owners?
Well I think it’s the kit man’s fault for using the wrong fabric conditioner, it has been pernicious to say the least! :)
Your comment will be some comfort for him[/quote]
Bold comment GL[/quote]
I think that’s just a fairy storyThe squad that won League 1 should have been good enough to finish above the bottom three without any additions. We also had Emyr Huws returning to the fold after his self-imposed exile, only to be flogged just as the season started.The transfer activity in the summer was uninspiring, and did nothing to improve the strength of the squad. Player retention/recruitment is usually dealt with by the Chief Exec and/or Chairman. However JJ is still in post whilst two managers have been sacked.
I strongly suspect at least two of the recent managerial appointments haven’t been JJ’s choice, and the decisions of which players leave and which stay have largely been up to the managers.
But we do love a good scapegoat at Wigan, and with Joyce out of the way and Barrow saying all the right things in the press, the Chief Exec gets his turn!
I’ve heard it all now an Englishman who supports Germany. I’ve always been a closet Dutch fan both Ajax and the Oranje but when its against England its not gonna happen. And its not like its Brazil, Spain or Argentina its Germany ffs the dreaded foe. Whilst you can admire the success and way they play ots still f…..g Germany. Sorry marrer I don’t get that at all.
Not many do but that’s the way the cookie crumbles! It’s been covered on here before many moons back! ;) Standish once called me ‘Lord Haw Haw’ :) I do however have a lot of Scottish friends and so at least they’ll be behind me tonight! :P[/quote]
I was going to call you that again before you spoiled it!
