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What sort of a sport uses playoffs to decide anything major
As someone said and as I always say regards the eggs…..you know the score at the start of the season.
If we finish 6th next year and win the playoffs will we be saying we don’t deserve to go up and offer it to 3rd??? Will we balls!
I’m all for play-offs, but not just play-offs to decide the over all winner.
It has to be an automatic winner, and play-offs to decide the lower places.
In rugby (RL and RU are exectly the same) you can win every league game and be 20 point clear of second place, but lose in a one-off Grand Final and not be crowned champions.
That’s simply not fair and there’s little incentive to finish top of the table. You may as well ease off at the end of the season, finish lower down the table and rest players – then win the Grand Final.
It still doesn’t alter the fact that a team finishing 6th and finishing 15 points behind 3rd place could get promoted, it should be how many points a team accumulates over 46 games that determines promotion, the fairest way is 3 up 3 down. Simple!Having the play-offs increases the number of teams involoved in possible promotion, so it keeps the end of the season more exciting.
Prior to play-offs if you we were outside the promotion places most of the games at the end of the season turned into half hearted kick-abouts because there was nothing to play for.
So I can fully understand why they have play-offs.
If it was just play-offs that decided the winner (like in rugby), then that wouldn’t be fair. But I like them as they’re an added incentive to teams who weren’t quite good enough to get the automatic promotion places.
The sacking of Martinez is bad timing by Everton, being a major talking point it’s well and truly taken the shine off our club WAFC winning the League 1 title on these boards!But it shouldn’t do!
He hasn’t been our manager for 3 years, but there are still some of our supporters out there jabbing away with a pin at their Roberto Martinez voodoo dolls.
Was it diplomatic not to fire Bobby on the 13th; with the number 13 is linked to Judas ?No, because nobody else sees him as a Judas apart from about half a dozen people who post on Cockney Latic!
personally ive no time for the fella after he jumped ship when things got a little tough
He was offered a better paid job at a bigger club. It was a no-brainer.
What, really, did you expect him to do? What would you have done?[/quote]
Think seriously about if I felt I was ready for a bigger club, bearing in mind my age and experience.
If I got offered the MD’s job at our place with triple my salary, I wouldn’t take it cos I’d feel out my depth. Bobby could and in hindsight should, have stuck with Wigan to get a bit more experience and to see if he had it in him to get his team back in the top league, after all he was the one who relegated them.[/quote]
Football managers are confident due to the very nature of their jobs. What sort of manager would he be if he turned down a move to a bigger club because he didn’t think he was good enough yet?I think Everton were the stepping stone he was looking for. Halfway between Wigan and the top clubs in the division.
And if he’d turned it down at the time after he’d just cause an major upset and won the FA Cup, he’d probably have never got the chance again.
I actually can see some positives with Nicholls, although I’m not going to and can’t, defend his performance on Sunday. :woohoo:I like the way he’s not afraid to come out to catch crosses / corners. He made three or four confident catches around the penalty spot area, I remember him dropping one corner or free kick in the first half, but got a foul. That’s what top goalies do, they come out for crosses and if they baws up, they go crashing to the ground in a heap.
Jussi and other keepers before him including Ali, tend to stay put hoping a defender will win it, or they will make a good reaction save.
The other thing he’s good at is distribution. I know he gave the ball several times to defenders when everyone thought he should punt it up field, but he’s just doing what GC has told him to do.i lost count of the balls that rocketed to our players around the half way line.
There’s a good goalie in him somewhere and the only way of developing him is to give him game time, which unfortunately won’t happen as we’ve seen with O’Donnell.Noooooo, totally disagree!!!
I thought his distribution was terrible. In my opinion it was even worse than his positioning.
He passed the ball out as instructed, but some of his decisions were poor and he passed to players in dangerous situations, when other options were on.
Jussi is able to make his own decisions – whether to pass, or whether to smack it upfield, whereas Nicholls isn’t yet.
Also, when Nicholls did kick it long, his accuracy was poor – which is possibly why he opted for a short pass more often than not.
When Jussi got into the team last year we started to build up the play from the back. With Nicolls there we didn’t as the ball usually ended up back at his feet or the player he’d passed to had a man on and was pressed to get the ball away.
He might turn out to be a decent keeper in the future but in my opinion he’s nowhere near than at the moment, and I think this may have been Caldwell saying to him ‘Go on, show us what you can do’ before his contract expires.
I suspect Dan Lavercombe will be the 2nd choice next season and Nicholls will be on his way.
More Cockney Latics :P Fair play to them, great game to make the trip for, cracking performance.
And don’t forget that bloke from Canada on his stag doo.. International Latics..
Enjoy watching the fans on the pitch at half time trying to win a season ticket. Pressure told on some though, one nearly hit the corner flag :lol:
The lad from Canada … International fans. When I can’t get to the game I go on Latics Wall. There are regulars tuned in on that from NZ, Darwen, Hong Kong, Norway, Iceland, USA, Malta, Patterdale, Seville (I think) and no doubt more.[/quote]
He’s not making much of an effort.35 mins to Wigan – M65 and M61.
Humble pie? Why? That performance against Pool was shite. It gave nothing to encourage anyone. What we must give thanks to is to Gary Caldwell and to Graham Barrow for reflecting on performances and the style of play at the time and after reflection doing something about it. Yes there have been the odd blip but since the Pool game at New Springfield the side have been far more direct and have openly attacked away from home. Everton fans have had three seasons of Bob now and are getting more and more annoyed. The Blackpool defeat also came after the weak displays against Burton and Barnsley so is it so wrong for fans to get restless? No it’s not and again thank you to Gary and Graham for doing something about it.Nicely wriggled. But it was hardly cause to be calling for the manager to go and his backroom staff withn him – when, with a novice manager and a brand new squad,we were in the play-off positions and only 5 points off the leaders.
Some more rational posters on here could see there was potential and that Caldwell needed time – rather than having a tantrum because of a poor performance.
Incidentaly, it clicked the following week, and we then went on an unbeaten run for 4 months.
I for one liked huws as a player, but as his attitude stinks – then sorry get rid. Mckay – i havent seen enough to comment, but what i did see, i wasnt impressed. But, was that due to bad management?? Taylor would not get back into the team. James & warnock have more quality. Cant remember who else went out last season, but whoever it was, we havent missed them.As regards the loanees we have borrowed – i think mcaleney & wabara are the one who have stood out & i would like us to sign them. Wabara is just one of those players who does nothing spectacular nor rubbish but just does a job. Given mcaleney’s age, if he hasnt cut it at everton now, he never will. Not too sure about vukic. If we did sign him – bench warmer & carling cup player at best.
Wabara is our player anyway.
He was signed on a free – on a short term contract.
So if Cadwell wants to keep him and he wants to stay, it’s just a matter of offering a new contract.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3556607/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-insists-s-earned-opportunity-drive-club-forward-despite-fans-calls-sacking.htmlThe comments underneath are exactly the same comments as some of us came out with when he was here! If only his lover’s here would hold their hands up and admit that we were right and they were very much wrong! ;)
I’d say it just proves that Everton have as many highly-strung, hissy-fit throwing big girl’s blouses supporting them as we do supporting us.
The type that hurl their toys from the pram at the first sign of a bad result, and call for the manager to be sacked and his backroom staff to go with him:
Bit like on this little gem of a thread from four months ago! (Enjoy…. ;) )
http://www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/5-cockney-latic-main-forum/115575-taxi-for-caldwell?limitstart=0
Why don’t the rest of you join us in not posting on here again its great. Watched the game tonight and Everton were embarrassing. Gone before the end of the season.Agreed. They were shocking.
(Still not posting)
5000 away fans is more than enough, as far as a football perspective we want as little encouragement as possible for the opposition.
If anything I’d want them in one of the corners of the ground to lose the kop like effect of a full stand behind the goal.
But crowd numbers have no bearing on the on-field performance (I’m sure Ive read that phrase somewhere before ;) ).
The current bottom 3 of the premier league all average considerably more than the current leaders. In your league, Sheff Utd, Bradford & Coventry would be running away from the rest and Walsall would be facing relegation.[/quote]
A big supportive crowd can help a team play better, but a big negative crowd usually has the opposite effect.
No point getting forty thousand on every week if they just boo the team – and that’s what’s been happening at Newcastle for years in my opinion.
They got delusions of grandeur when Keegan was manager in the 90s, and started to believe the hype that they were a huge club that deserved Champions league football, and had the best fans in the Britain etc.
And now, unless they’re challenging for the top four and playing attractive football, nothing is good enough, and while they’re loud and supportive when things are going right, the second it isn’t going right, they’re quick to boo, unfurl their banners, throw their season tickets, call for the manager to be sacked, the board to resign, the owner to sell up etc.
Most clubs have fickle fans, but the Geordies are beyond fickle these days and are easy to whip into a frenzy (as Callum McManaman proved with his ‘life threatening’ tackle).
And sorry Mutty, but I suspect Sunderland are going the same way.
