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…. you have no stadium of your own unless you count the rugby ground you stole! :shock: (notice i said rugby has there game is known has rugby unlike your game of rugby league) and you pay rent to your more INTERNATIONALLY known neighbours and you start complaining one of our players is worth only 6 million! :lol: :lol: :lol:
has it ever been confirmed anywhere that the DW Stadium is now owned by Wigan Athletic as opposed to being owned by Whelco who happen to be owned by the same guy as Latics??
Whelan may well have talked about transferring ownership of it to Latics but what he says & what he ends up doing can be 2 completely different things, and as far as I am aware nothing has ever been confirmed that Latics own the stadium
If that’s the case then Latics will still be paying rent to Whelco just like our chubbie friends – being owned by the same person as the company who own the ground is completely different to Latics owning the groundseems some have missed my point i made about sammon and rodallega.we looked good when they both plyed last season, for me we need sammon up front with rodallega playing behind
I don’t think its been missed at all, & yes in the brief periods that they played together in a more traditional “2 up front” system it did seem to work okay
However as long as Bobby has a hole in his bum he will not play that system (regularly, from the start & as his preferred option anyway) so discussion of it seems (to me at least) irrelevant & a waste of timeBobby will tell you all day long that we don’t play with one striker, we play with three. He certainly shot me down very quickly when I suggested we played with a lone striker.Bobby can tell me that the moon is made of green cheese but it doesn’t mean that it is
Heskey?No
Whenever I saw Heskey played in that lone striker role he looked awful.
Heskey’s problem in that position was that he would win headers all day but instead of trying to hold the ball up, he always flicked it on – when played up front on his own his was flicking it on to nobody. When played up front with Owen & then Rooney for England he looked far better
He’d have probably been an ideal partner for Rodallega in his primeI disagree with Yosser in that i really rate Rodallega but I also agree with him in one crucial aspect:
Rodallega hasn’t got, & never will have, the attributes to be able to play the front man role that Bobby’s system needs (nor for that matter do I ever think he’ll be able to play that left wing role that Bobby devised for him).
He’s a centre forward that needs someone alongside him to do the donkey work. Bobby himself has said it in the past & its somet he intimated at when he was talking about the Copa America & how good Rodallega looks alongside Colombia’s other forward.
He keeps taking Rodallega out of the lone striker role & is then forced to put him back in coz all the other strikers he has bought have been complete pig swill & its a key failing of Bobby’s that he doesn’t seem to be able to see the type of forward needed to make his system work at this level. That said the early signs with Sammon are promising although I think Rodallega is the better player – its like Kevin Davies at Bolton. There are far better centre forwards out there than him but he is suited to that role at Bolton down to a teeI think with a lone striker with the ability to run all day, chase down lost causes, put pressure on the opposition defence when they have the ball, the ability to win the ball in the air & hold it up to bring others into play (its not much to ask is it!! ;) )latics would look far more of an attacking threat than they do at the moment
In my opinion any club would be wasting their money taking Woodgate on board whether its on a pay as you play deal or not
He’s had chronic injury problems since before he went to Real Madrid & they haven’t shown any signs of going away recently either – it all indicates a player who’s body is knackered & if its been like that for so long, the chances of it suddenly clearing are slim to none.
Even if you put him on a pay as you play deal you’ll still be chucking good money down the drain treating his various injury problems for the length of his contractHe should be one clubs should steer well clear of
They obviously only saw him in the game against them at the DW Stadium where he scored 2.If they had watched his perfomances between that match and the end of the season then they wouldn’t be offering 9million.
Potential is there but 9million?
I’d agree that he was at best anonymous & at worst poor in alot of the games covering the period you mention
I’m hoping however that the fact he had to undergo an ankle operation as soon as the season ended explains his drop in form
For me he’s another one of our players who’s best position is “in the hole” along with Moses, Cleverley (when he was here) & Di Santo (who really impressed me on the one, short, occasion he played there)However we want him, they have the player to sell and are holding out for more, based on his performances last season.What do you do?
What you do is have your own maximum valuation of the player & don’t exceed that just because the selling club assumes you’re desparate for him & think they can take you for a ride
Judging from Whelan’s comments on wigantoday.net it appears that Latics last bid is pretty much close to their maximum valuation & they won’t be held to ransom
Good on em I say4 million for al habsi is a good deal he is easily worth it£4mill is a hell of alot for a club like Latics to pay for a keeper. In fact its alot for any top flight club to pay for a keeper
For a keeper that Bolton don’t rate as good enough to even be jaskelinen’s back up its a rip offFor the record I thought Al Habsi was superb for us last season & kept us in many a game so i can understand those who say just pay it
It just sticks in my throat that coz they know Latics want him they now value him at a fee higher than I think anyone would pay for either of their other 2 keepersI’ve posted somet on another thread about this but I’ll say somet similar here
Bolton are tryin to take the pish with this deal coz they know Latics, Bobby & the fans are keen on him. However I’d say that Bolton would be unlikely to get £4mill in today’s market for either Jaskelinen or their other keeper.
That being the case you have to ask why if they think he’s genuinely worth £4mill are they not playing him every week instead of making him their 3rd choice keeper???i don’t think any club, anywhere would pay £4mill for either Jussi Jaskelinen or their no. 2 keeper (Bogdan is it??) in the current market & at the current point of their careers
So why the feck do Bolton Wanderers think that their 3rd choice keeper is worth £4mill????? I don’t think any club where he’s likely to be first choice will pay that amount for him. At a push Villa look like the’re in the market for a keeper but if they’re prepared to pay that amount for him then let em
As good as Al habsi was last season, what Bolton are doing is taking the pish. Find me any other club who rate their 3rd choice keeper at £4mill in the transfer market
If Latics have £3-£4mill to spend on a keeper then I’m sure there are other keepers out there in the big wide world who would offer better value for money than Bolton are offering Al Habsi for
Very cynical Griff
To be honest I suspect (if its true) that the reason’s for it are part money & part realising what’s best for his career at this point.
He seems to have a very level head on his shoulders from what little I know of him. He turned down tentative advances from Arsenal to stay at Hamilton & when Liverpool came in with a firm offer he turned it down coz he realised his career would best be served by playing regular first team football at Hamilton coz he wasn’t ready at that stage to be getting it at Liverpool & he’d be playing reserve team football.
When he eventually decided to leave there it was a few years down the line, when he felt ready to play english premier league football & he chose a club where he thought he’d stand a better chance of regular football & where he knew some of the staff – I doubt Latics offered him more money than WolvesIf he has a realistic view of his abilities at present as the above seems to indicate then he’ll know that he’s still not ready to command a regular first team place at a big club whereas he’s guaranteed a start & its not as if he’ll be short of a few bob at Latics anyway
So I doubt very much whether its all about the financial side of things coz Liverpool probably would pay him more, but I also doubt whether his decision would have much to do with loyalty towards Bobby or Latics & be more to do with a realistic view of what’s best for his career at this point
I think he sent Simon Haworth off
Didn’t play for us then. Tim Cahill scored his last goal for Millwall though IIRC.[/quote]
We may be getting our Millwall away games mixed up.
the first away game I thought I recalled ever hearing “Lets Hang On” sang by Caddy & Co was at Millwall in Rioch’s season when they were top & Latics were second
In that game we got thumped 3-1 (Paul Moody hat-trick) & I’m pretty sure Haworth was sent off for a stampLatics didn’t play em again till 9th August 2003 when we lost 2-0 at the Den but I don’t think that’s when “Lets Hang on” was first aired coz I was at the game when it was & I was on holiday for this game
We played em again early on the season after & again I don’t think it was that game coz I was at a music festival in Spain for that one
I really should do some work!!
Has there ever been a season since Latics made it to the top flight where the fixture computer hasn’t given us an absolute killer run of the big 4-6 sides???
This season we get it twice!!!!
I was thinking the other day, about away games I’d been to with latics. One in particular. I think it was when we went up to championship. We played Milwall. Caddy singing let’s hangon, going down on I think one of arky’s.I hope someone can help me out with this, if you so happened to be on my coach. Going through London, we hit some traffic near a few pubs. Of course there was the usual banter. When all of a sudden the downstairs fire door burst wide open, and out flew this guy ( bald head, looked hard as nails) and ran at pub full of millwall fans. He took it to a few lads then ran back in the bus.
It was one of my earlier experiences of watching latics away.
Just thought it might have jogged a few memories if anyone was on that coach.
Think we got spanked in that game too, maybe 2-0
My recollection of that incident is the people outside the pub taking the pish but the pub was quite set back from the road. Step forward some Millwall fan at a bus stop right by the coach joining in, then the door of the coach flew open etc..
The game was awful. latics got well & truly whalloped, the ref was bricking it from the Millwall fans all game & I think he sent Simon Haworth off
The atmosphere amongst the Latics contingent on the way down & in the ground made it one of the best away trips I’d been on at the time though – did we stop at Borehamwood FC’s ground for some pre-match tipples on the way down??
