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You can’t tell where Boyce is from that photo but I’d hazard a guess that he’s got his own man to mark without having to leave him to cover up Ramis’s cock up.
If he hasn’t then a covering player did not have time to track into Ramis’s position & once he’d gone he then wouldn’t have had any chance to get back before the ball got played through to May.
It was schoolboy error stuff from Ramis & bearing in mind he got hauled off at half-time not something that seems to have impressed his new boss

That’s what I thought when I saw the goal on the telly yesterday. To be fair though, I would expect Barnett & Watson to be doing what they’re doing – its Ramis who inexplicably decides to leave the man he’s marking in order to join in who the fault for the goal truly lies with

I hadn’t realised that the corner flag challenge was the one referred to that didn’t even warrant a free kick!! :ohmy: :ohmy:
To be fair to the ref on that one, its a bit different at that level but I would be looking to the assistant to lead on that one (I think he’s just out of camera shot but it’s right in front of him) as the contact & ball is on his side of the players & he should have a better view. I’d look at the assistant coz it looked like a foul from my viewpoint but if he didn’t flag (like the other one flagged for the earlier incident when he got cleaned out) than I wouldn’t give it – that said, from ref’s I’ve done games for who do football league lines they say that the higher up you go the less the ref wants you to get involved in anything other than offsides & whether the ball’s gone out of play.
As for what the player said I don’t know, but I can imagine!!

As for what Beautyman got cautioned for. I initially thought that it was for dissent coz of the way he reacts when the ref blows for the free kick but if you look at the ref before he shows the yellow, he points to his ears to tell him to listen & then he points to a few areas of the pitch so it looks to me as if he was cautioned for persistent fouling rather than for that particular foul (although it looked as if they both had hold of each others shirt in that instance).

The #5 should have gone for the first challenge for me & the step back on to him was a snidey trick but of the 3 clips involving him, he was fouled against in one of them and in the build up to the stamp, Beautyman has 2 swings back at him with his left arm which if spotted by the ref would have prevented the further incident (for which there’s no excuse)

The first challenge & the one by the corner flag aren’t good – the first should have been a straight red & the corner flag one was reckless (with no chance of getting the ball which is a caution but at a push you could argue a straight red for excessive force.
Other than that, there’s not much in the video clip that justifies the journalists use of the phrase that he’s “never seen such savagery on a football pitch” and the one where the linesman gets cleaned out had been given against the fella who was the victim of most of the challenges – then I saw the journalist was Adrian Durham who I’m assuming is the same prat of an Adrian Durham who has the TalkSport show

I’d live to see Pulis in charge but I have the feeling that these days, after winning premier league manager of the year last season, he will think that taking in the job of a bottom 3 championship club is somewhat below him.

If you don’t ask you don’t get I guess but, in footballing terms alone, I’d be happy with MacKay too.

There’s no-one else who stands out to me

Strangely enough I remember being very impressed with Baines when he made his debut against a top flight side in the League Cup

I said to my mates at the back end of last season that my two concerns about Rosler were his incessant squad rotation & also his signings.
I thought that with the exception of Waghorn they were garbage, he rarely played most of them & all the ones performing were other manager’s men. Even Waghorn seemed an odd permanent signing to make at the time – I only rate him as average at the best of times but to sign him on a 3 year deal when we still had a chance of getting promoted was strange coz there’s no way in the memory of man that he is good enough for the top flight so he’d have been left out of the side even more often than he currently is had we gone up[/quote]
Absolute rubbish.

I don’t beleive for a second you have mates…. ;)[/quote]

Alright then .. I told the people who happened to be sat next to me at the match!!

I’m not denying the talents of their manager & players or the faults of Latics’ ones, but it should be pointed out that Bournemouth are currently being bankrolled by Russian petrochemicals mogul Maxim Denim.
They made a loss of £15mill in the season they got out of League 1 and their losses since then (whilst not yet public) are likely to have increased substantially. An article I read last week has them down as one of 7 clubs “very likely” (the others being Birmingham, Bolton, Middlesbrough, Notts Forest & Wolves) to receive a transfer embargo in January. Incidentally, Latics were one of only 3 clubs (Millwall & Rotherham being the others) who were classed as “very unlikely”.
They have also been one of the most vocal critics of the FFP regulations & have argued that it is stifling their ambition.

So yes they do have an astute manager (although he didn’t do that well at Burnley where he didn’t have quite so much financial backing behind him) & players with fight & guts, but they are also spending well beyond their income – admittedly as Latics once did