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And partly cos he’s fekin crap!!
Course he is. Thats why Liverpool paid £6m for him as a teenager, he’s played for England, and has won our player of the year award. You’re dead right.
he is right though, kirkland WAS a good keeper and he did not have a glass back when liverpool signed him, there again liverpool are not known for making shit signings are they.
Lets take the full backs for starters – our regular backs are out, under normal circs with the quality of the Villa wingers you may well think we will struggle in this areaBut with Fig tending to go awol and the way Stam dealt with Bale – it may not turn out to be too bad, so looking on the positive side
Midfield for me the key to this one
Im agreeing here, for me the worst 2 regulars we have are out, Gohouri looked very comfy at LB, be interesting this one. See if they can get 3 points and show martinez there is more depth
The vision, wonder where he is now?
Why did you bump this up… LeeCatterflaps is my banned account
[/quote]Jayt will be watching you like a hawk now :D :D
If Martinez was to go, I couldnt see a better candidate than Big Sam. Likes the area, Knows how to manage a club the size of ours, Works on tight budgets, has a good backroom staff. Loyal, Tells it how it is, If the team has played rubbish he lets everybody know rather than taking positives out of it. Vast wealth of experience and i would go and pick him up myself and drive him to the DW
Gonna throw my bit in here
The Duke is the best striker ive seen at Wigan, And by quite away, Jonesy was excellent, but for one season in our promotion season. Ellington im in no doubt would have walked into the England side if he had waited a season or two for a proper club to come in for him. His all around ability was immense, He terrorised defences for years before he went to Albion. I remember fondly the hat-tricks in the cups against the big clubs then and hammering anything that came in front of him. BEFORE Roberts arrived, At Bristol Rovers he scored a hat-trick at against Derby County at Pride Park, Think it was Derby, 0-3 anyroad and every goal was a cracker. I agree that sometimes he was the star of the anti-climax but 90% of the time he was just unstoppable. No one calls Rooney and Torres crap when they have an in-different period because they know the quality will shine through again. When Roberts arrived it just made him even better. Heskey on the other hand has never been a good player since he left Leicester and has only made it so far because of his size and the fact Liverpool had him for a while. No doubt at all he would have made it to the very top Ellington. People at Latics are good at ruining their careers, None of them learn. Bullard, Zaki, De Vos, Haworth e.t.c, e.t.c the list is endless.
It might be OUR time Yosser, but it’s got jack to do with you as you don’t bother to support us anymore, do you?25? Did you add a sneaky 10 on to get that?
What an utter prick you really are
christmas round your house must be a riot :oops: santa will probably turn up and steal your possesions and have a big pooh on top of your turkey :( you grumpy old fartim 25
No one is asking for someone to be a superfan but just to quite simply be a supporter which you claim to be and at least make the same effort to get to the ground as people who come on here and slate Martinez, the team.
If you can’t be bothered turning up, then how can you have a go at the players or the manager for that matter.
Really gets on my nerves, ‘fans’ that don’t turn up and quite happily say I don’t turn up because of the team, of the tactics etc. You are a supporter and your role is to support the team! I’m sure if we had made it to a cup final you would be there.Nope, i did in 2006 but i was a season ticket holder then, And i enjoyed watching football back then also. It’s quite simple, I don’t go any more because i don’t like what i see, Until it improves i won’t go, Simple, i don’t care about bad runs and all that, i still went when Hutchings had the awful period before he was sacked because one way or another i knew it wouldnt last but this latest has been going on for 18 months and im sick of it. Nothing has changed and nothing is going to change, Its like putting your money into a fruit machine, Every so often you will win but 90% of the time you are just throwing your money away. It’s so predictable what is going to happen every game. Everton away next, I can tell you what is likely to happen, We will pass and pi$$ around with the ball for 20 mins and then Everton will score, Then we will pass and pi$$ about with it some more then they will score another one, This will go on and on until the last 10 mins then he puts an attcking player on and they push for it, Probably score too. 3-1 or there abouts
The response to this post will be so predictable
Bet you didn’t predict that?
Nobody’s asking for Superfans; just decent fans, supporting the club through the door[/quote]
Hmmm
Yosser, you “find yourself supporting us”? But you don’t though, do you?At a time when the club and team needs as many (£14 max for a season ticket) bums on seats to support them, you choose not to bother.
“it’s not compulsory for a fan to watch every game”? Maybe it isn’t, but to choose to sit at home and watch it on a lap top instead is pretty pathetic – unless, as I say, your self-righteous shyte about FIFA and the Premier League etc is just designed to disguise your financial reasons.
You think it will be cheaper and that much different in the Championship? You’re going to get a shock when/if that happens, if you can tear yourself away from your lap top, that is.
What I don’t get about you and the others like you is this: if you can’t be bothered to even go to watch the team that you purport to love, why bother spending as much time as you do hammering the club from the comfort of your/your mate’s keyboard?
Its my choice how i choose to watch. you don’t have to be a super fan to attend. My finances are ok as it happenns, however i choose to spend it how i wish, and not on that crap that plays football(or attempts to) on a saturday afternoon. I bet i enjoy it a lot more than you do. I can see everything that you can with the aid of replays, i can have a beer, a chat, a warm and a good moan about the lastest rubbish display and all for the price of a ticket. Its great, You mugs should get out while you can. You don’t have to go you know, it isnt the law, you should boycott it as i and thousands more have.
The response to this post will be so predictable
When they got the 1st, I was already feeling as it would be Blackpool all over again, but the courage and passion shown today was much much better.I know almost every Latics fan would like Bobby to succeed as manager of Wigan Atheltic and when the going gets tough, the fans get going. Stoke are now unbeaten in 5 – so getting a point isn’t that much of a diserpoitment for me to be honest. :geek:
Where I sit, the people above me in WS3 (row Y upwards !) are so negative. In injury time they were all calling for Alcey’s head when he didn’t wack the ball up for Boselli to compete for. :roll:
I think Di Santo and McManaman should of been brought on for Watson and Boselli late on – but that’s just me :P
Come on then kids, lets pile in to Everton next week and battle out our 1st win their for 5 years. :)
Standish, I take back what you said about thickness
Having seen the second half today on a dodgy stream (my Iraqi’s not the best but they thought Gary Caldwell was playing and got Figoera mixed up with Stam), I’m allowing myself grounds for cautious optimism. We all know the negatives (one up front is never going to work with lightweights like Di Santo and Boselli; inexperienced coaching staff; players out of position) but here are the positives. Feel free to add any more; let’s pretend the glass is half full for one night only.1. Al Habsi: inspires far more confidence in our back four than Kirkland.
2. Alcaraz. Looks assured despite playing alongside a different centre half every week. His runs into midfield can really open things up.
3. Thomas and Diame: we’re finally seeing flashes of what these two are capable of. Good runs from Diame, tough tackling from Thomas.
4. The subs’ bench. Always got a few options there. Not full of wasters like Koumas.
5. General team spirit: they get stuck in; they genuinely look like they care. We don’t fold like we did last season.
6. The percentage game. We generally have more possession and pass more accurately than our opposition. And Watson’s as good a free kick/corner taker as we’ve had in recent years.
7. N’Zogbia. He’s brilliant. And, really, after his antics in the summer, I was expecting a reluctant, sulky half-season from him.
I’m not saying we’ll stay up. I still think that Martinez is out of his depth, and Whelan’s taking a big risk trying to survive at this level with kids (this system would be fine with Bramble, Cattermole and Heskey in the mix), But I’m marginally happier than I was on Tuesday night. What d’us reckon?
And yet after all those Martinez esq positives we are still in the bottom 3 and going down
Yosser, call yourself a fan and you choose not to go and watch them at home? I presume you live in Wigan, and therefore have no other excuse for not going, in which case you’re not worth a bad language.Unless you’re using the fact that “we’re shyte” as cover for not putting you’re hand in your pocket? Nah, surely not?
I was not aware that it was compulsory to attend every game if you was a fan. I choose not to go because i don’t agree with what i am paying for. I have had a season ticket (bar this and last season) for a good few years but if i don’t feel that i am getting value for my hard earned money then i won’t go, Simple as. You can parp on about real fan bollocks all you like but until i see what it is exactly i am paying for then i won’t go. I can go down to a sunday league game and be as entertained, or better still a conference game and get the same experience. I think you are silly for actually going to be honest. Why bother going to this money driven leagues games in the first place. I think you are silly for paying the extortion they want. I only keep watching out of a general interest. Mr. Whelan had a great vision for this club and by doing it, And as how wonderful as it’s been, It has ripped the soul out of the club and fans. At one time this club was united and one, Now it is divided into so many sections it’s un-recognizable. The sooner SKY TV and the rest of them leave clubs alone the better, But it won’t happen. Too far gone now. Football is dead and has been for about 10 years. The world cup fiasco has just hammered the final nail into it’s rotten coffin. I find myself only supporting us now purely because im from wigan. Enjoyement, Nah, Not for a long time.
