Yeah i want to chip in here too and put my point forward as to why a bonding session is a good idea. A lot of players being vocally bagged and boo’d in the stands last season. Like Snowblind i would like to tell a little story i have. I have a friend who is a professional Rugby League player (Super League and well known) A couple of years ago the team he plays for were very thin on the ground and struggling for players. My mate put his hand up and said he would play even though he had been stood down. Why had he been stood down? His mother was gravely ill in hospital. He had a bad game and was abused something rotten from the stands “you lazy, fat c*nt” etc etc and he heard all this. No fan knew about his personal situation and when he should have really been applauded for giving it a go he was hammered by the fans on the day. After the match he went straight to the hospital and his mother died soon after on the same day. He decided then and there that he wanted to leave that club at the end of the season because what he had heard that day. Yes he had a bad game but he tried as hard as he could. He moved on and regained his form and is doing nicely now again.

The moral of the story is :- All the fans see are players on good wages ‘not pulling their weight’ but rather than shout abuse at them, there maybe more to it. Bonding sessions are a good idea for a healthy mind.

Is this a serious conversation? The man who turned ‘Super Club’ Leeds into top division challengers would be interested in this job. Get your thinking caps on. He has obviously been touted up for the Palace job. I have told you the best man for the job… If you would like to troll through my posts from the last 5 years i am sure i can appease many of you. Wigan Athletic was a brilliant business plan. Nearly a hundred years of history and building aqll squandered to line the pockets of the owner. You will see it one day

Huddersfield have worked their arse off all season to get where they are. David Wagner has signed a SQUAD of players he deems good enough. He can play whoever he wants, whenever he wants. Just like the big clubs do for European ties etc. Sour grapes from Blackburn. If they didn’t wanna go down then they should not have done things the cheap way like the other 2 sides that have been relegated with them. Cheap option managers and bargain basement signings. Get what they deserve.

If you know it just say it and stop fucking around. ‘I knoooow something you don’t knoooow’ GAY. just say it!

Why is it everybody outside of how a football club is run can tell when they sign a player or appoint a manager that i would say 90% of the time is going to fail. If i was Sharpe and on a very low budget for a manager and had to make a choice and take a chance. I don’t see why Cowley and co at Lincoln would be such a terrible move as a ‘chance’ but at this point in the actual history of Wigan Athletic this is one of the most crucial decisions in a long time. It HAS to be right first time. If there isn’t a promotion next season then all my predictions come true. There CAN NOT be a chance taken this time. It HAS to be proven this time. Somebody who will have them in the top 6. There aren’t many around out of work but they are there if you look hard enough. It depends on the ambition of the owners and board. But you know my views on that already. I have not made any secret of the fact that i have fallen completely out of love with football and i don’t take much notice anymore, however i still look out for the latics’ results. I spent a big part of my life following this team around the country and do not want them to go to the wall. However that is where they are heading. And i suppose the next appointment will give you an indication of the ambition of where they are wanted to be. The fact that some fans just accept the statements like ‘ah well we punched above our weight anyway’ is completely defeatest. Premiership for 8 years. F.A Cup winners, League Cup finalists, European entrants. That isn’t punching above any weight. That is going toe to toe with the very best. Why accept failure after that? Some fans need a sense of perspective. That perspective isn’t punching above any weight but lack of ambition and shutting up shop when the club was in a great position to be a consolidated top flight side.

You’ve a good point there Yosser…Roy Keane would be an excellent choice. We can but hope.

Back to reality, we’ve more chance of getting his namesake Steve, whose tactical prowess makes Yootha Joyce look like Bill Shankly.[/quote]

After reading his autobiography, he doesn’t seem too bothered about what league he is in as long as he is challenged. There is no bigger challenge around at the moment in terms of potential, stadium and facilities etc its all there if somebody can get them back up. A couple of things he alludes to in his book are how he has turned down big money moves in terms of playing and management because of 1. The challenge wasn’t enough and 2. He couldn’t uproot his family from Manchester so when he was in the Sunderland job he struggled to adapt because he was so far away from home and his family. He wasn’t concerned about his salary but was more interested in an incentive bonus. 1m quid for promotion. Thats what drives him on. The challenge to be successful. He is out of club management and could continue in his role with Ireland and he is 20 mins away. I think he would jump at the chance. I very much doubt the club have the balls to make such an appointment though. A born winner.[/quote]
So this is the same Keane who has a caustic personality, who could start an argument in an empty room, who fell out with entire Irish coaching staff, caused all the Sunderland players to celebrate when he resigned as manager, and was an abject failure and eventually sacked as Ipswich manager?

Oh, and he once kicked up a fuss and wrote about it in his newspaper column when one of the girls at the DW ticket office didn’t recognise him and wouldn’t sell him a ticket?

Yep. Perfect for the job![/quote]

There are two sides to every story and sometimes some stories are complete bullshit to start with. I would recommend anyone to read his book. ‘The Second Half’ He unearthes a lot of the stories that have dogged him throughout his career. Strikes me as a very honest man, probably too honest. Your perspective of him might just change. Apart from that, it’s a riveting read anyway.

There is only one man to take the helm. Only one man could possibly begin to sort out the HUGE mess that has been left now. Wigan Athletic can’t buy their way up next season so the players that are there and will be coming in need motivation. A man who isn’t afraid of what people think or try and dictate to him. That man is Roy Keane. There shouldn’t even be any other name in the frame. If The Latics want to survive then Keane needs appointing and given longevity.

But why accept that? Dave Whelan came in and promised to progress the club not ruin it. Why not strive for more? Because unfortunately that was never the intention for the owners. It was always money first and anything else was a bonus. Now these people are martyrs and will leave the club probably out of business so what is better, having a lower league club doing ok or having a once fairly successful club that no longer exists? The men who created Wigan Athletic in the 1930’s (i think) after years of failed teams would have wanted a town team that could have competed at league level not be a pawn for one man’s millions idea to extract as much out the team and people of the town as he could and then destroy everything it ever stood for. It’s easy to be blinded by recent success but is it worth throwing nearly a hundred years away for. No me neither.

It’s pure jealousy Pie Army, don’t let them blind you with the Maurice Lindsay episode, they have been churning that one out since the 80’s. Now i am going to run along like a little boy, i have a game to get to.